Quoted from "YomanROM;603376"
uhm lol? read the skills. thx.
knight is not a DPS.
knight does more aggro then before.
knight is able to soak up more damage than before (did you even check as far as shield of discipline? 63% magical AND physical reduction for 30s in ONE skill. stacks with other mitigation. physical was 20% for 15s before and a different skill and IIRC the buffs would overwrite each other ...)
sounds exactly what the knight is supposed to be and do. TANK
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[Mana Return] changed to [Holy Power Explosion] :The skill description reads now:
PLV = 1: Gives a buff restoring MP by 3% every 2 seconds, and increases the aggro of all attacks by 10%. It also restores 50 MP for 20 seconds while receiving healing.
PLV = 80: Gives a buff restoring MP by 3% every 2 seconds, and increases the aggro of all attacks by 50%. It also restores 850 MP for 20 seconds while receiving healing.
Quoted from "Garmulan;603380"
oh wow magic and damage reduction.
loss of hatred strike. 70% + aggro generation.
Wheres the extra aggro? did i miss it?
a tank isn't a supposed to be puny with damage and takes lots of damage. that is what you call a bunker. so shut up about DPS.
Quoted from "Mamn00n;603383"
You won't get anywhere by insulting people with sarcastic and and ill-informative arguement.
Try again.
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[COLOR=white !important]uhm lol? read the skills. thx.
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Quoted from "sertet;603386"
Seriously, read some of the skills already. You are just sounding dumber by the second.
Threaten at level 50 - 135.6% aggro increase for 8 seconds on an 8 second cooldown.
The skill you are looking at is a replacement for mana return which has 0 threat on it, so even at 50 that is 35% more threat on any attack. 40 second cooldown
Hatred Strike was replaced by a 20% dps boost for 15 seconds on a 2 minute cooldown.
so 170% more threat vs the 70% (actually 60% on the old hatred strike) and 135% of it can be kept for the duration of the entire fight? That is a loss of threat?
Quoted from "Garmulan;603389"
ahem threaten ALWAYS had 135.6% aggro generation. so previously we had 200%
as for the 20% dps boost for 15 seconds on a 2 minute cooldown.
I tried it. DOES not WORK its a LIE
Quoted from "sertet;603396"
New threaten doesn't require a stack of seals for the bonus, its just part of the rotation
New "mana return" is 20s buff with 40s cooldown, so it is active for a full minute by the time hatred strike comes back for a 15 sec buff (so it isn't a choice of "do I need mana or threat" anymore)
maybe not 20% dps, but 20% on the light damage which is minimal and some additional attack power given by strength buff (which can be seen in stats. 12500 strength goes to 15000.)
holy seal is now an attack which you don't have to wait for white strikes to place seals to use for threaten (more damage) which would slow your use of threaten and not always get the full 135.6%
shock is now a mainhand % damage (more damage)
So far if you look at the actual numbers and the actual performance... it is a lot better even for a non k/p
Quoted from "Garmulan;603414"
Let me do a quick break down.
old holy seal gave me ~15k crit with a white hit
new holy seal gives me 4100 5 times over 10 seconds
weapon white hit every 2.4 seconds
smells like a nerf
I'm not gonna do the math but it doesn't smell right to me.
Quoted from "Garmulan;603414"
LOL i tested it. Yep a letdown. Fancy wording using Physical Light damage. But doesn't affect anything except Magical Light damage.
Time to use my skill reset.
Sigh.

Quoted from "Cike;603418"
this thread is hilarious...keep it up...
while I'm here, can I call some1 an idiot too?
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