Runes of Magic US / AU

What in the world...........








Even with 5+ post in an hour you hold yet no/zero/zip/nada constructive feedback and continue to troll the crap out of this thread/forum in general......

List of bugs for bethomia:

1. mementos
2. Quest NPCS only found on easy mode
2.1 Boss three is part of a quest....... that you cant do cause he runs
2.2 Old firemallet quest....... no idea on that, quest is set in bethomia so should be there but he's not.

3. difficulty, people...... come on, you guys can easily do it, even if they buff the bosses and mobs, saying its to hard is a failure of an excuse, the reason you wouldnt be able to do an instance is becuase your too lazy and want this crap hand fed to you.

Oh get this, the best gear previously was world boss gear......... YOU GOT HAND FED POM'S. you people have the exact same gear as end gamers, at the very least 1/2 of the gear has been hand fed to you...... they have constantly payed attention to mid-low players, gear is not an issue in any gap between players. Poor excuse.

4. my favorite, a certain wall in the instance if ran into causes all the players in the instance to crash

5. well known 4th..... no need to elaborate me thinks lol

6. not part of bethomia but...... the res stone..... why would you put mobs that fear near the res stone. Just annoying really.

7. The greens, lol just lol. farm baby, farm!

Like 2 more i cant remember currently lol



Also, side note on the whole "Oh why don't you go do CV or something"! CV or chaos vortex was...... well.... Runewakers hell-spawn of a good idea gone just horribly wrong in every direction, it was meant to be released earlier for lvl 72 but of course was never finished, and on release of it into public.... way late, still like 1/2 done lol.

Still don't think its complete but w/e, not really paid much attention too, really surprised anyone even knows what it is. CV is like what VN sounded like back in the day...... the exact same lol.

Wasn't here for VN days really, but paz's description was that you had to keep 20 crevices down with each crevice turning people into a frog permanently lol.

Would be nice if they up the difficulty now and improved the gear like they did with VN, then yes we would gladly do it. gladly.

Think i'm done for now.


Edit: its funny how the people saying were dumb or w/e for saying its easy have not even stepped a foot into hard mode most likely.

At least do that before anything else....... how do you comment when you don't even know what the instance is like?

I find it scary that Esxcape is the only one in the thread that makes total sense.

Quoted from "bleedingblak;604132"

Say you get all the gear from this instance. Now you have it all statted. Now its all plussed and drilled with runes. Now, the level 82 instance comes out (or for 12 man raid case, the level 85 instance comes out) and you burn boss 1-7. The run took you an hour, and on the first try you have already downed the instance.

Please tell me how you are still interested on playing this game that you just spent all that money on? You would wind up in the shoes of all the endgamers who are considering quitting at this point.

Isn't that a common problem for "endgamers" of all games, though? Once you've basically "finished" the game, you're bored until the next expansion comes out. Might take an hour, might take a month, might take 4 months - but once you can breeze through that last instance without breaking a sweat, what else is there? in RoMs case, Siege? Crafting? Gathering?

That's why I'm in no particular hurry to be "end game"

And considering that I'm no longer willing to continue to throw money down a bottomless pit in equipment/gear upgrades every ~6 months, I never will be.

Quoted from "vfwiffo;604143"

I find it scary that Esxcape is the only one in the thread that makes total sense.

yeps

Quoted from "Dkjester;604119"

I see you said it was too late to post a long response and said you would later.... yet you never did. Or are you gonna complain about "wah wah it is not something I think is intelligent so wah wah I will ignore it", or should I assume it means you have nothing to say against my long post..... after posting you would post about it later?

Honesly, you sir, are nothing but a loser. You want this game to feed you gold, so you don't have to open your old aunts purse and steal her cc, so you don't have to wait for her to give you a xmas present of a few bucks. What other reason would you be so stingy not to be able to afford 10 bucks a month, 20 bucks every two. Only freaking low lives, or children, go OMG 15 bucks a month, omg I CANT AFFORD THAT!!!!!

I am ONLY attacking you because !!!"YOU"!!! gave implication you would response later, then opted for some short dribble later. Sorry Bub, you have the credibility of Verizon with keeping your private conversations private... or are you too noob to know about that?

Low lives or children.... Or starving college students who can barely pay for food. Not everyone is as lucky as you. Get over yourself.

Aah I should've just not checked this thread till I got home. This is ridiculous.

quite honestly, go tell your friends and whoever else you feel like. Noone is going to stop you. Really, please do so. I mean, everyone is free to spend money on this game or not , whenever he feels like. I personally did spend money in this game but i kept it strictly at a maximum rate of "what would WoW cost me each month?" because i took this as a reference for paying for/in a game which i will not own and knew from a friends experience that bascially freemium/f2p=ripoff/paytowin.
(And yes, ROM was my first MMO , i did not even play wow before)

But regardless what youre trying to achieve with this "outrage" (? dunno if that word really fits) about not spending money anymore:

a) its not enough to make a difference

b) what do you think GF is going to do? "Hey this guy on the forums threatened us to not spend money anymore" "ooohh wow were scared now" ...

c) stuff like this can get you banned on the forums (atleast on the DE), your not allowed to call for a boycott of GF products on a GF forum (which is essentially what you are doing when you say "everyone dont spend money, ruin the company") - and no, free speech does not apply on a privately run internet forum

d) its not for GF to decide. They can tell RW "the players said this is too easy and the values are like half of what they were before, are you sure this is allright?" If someone at RW actually gives a f.ck to read the stuff GF sends them they are going to look at it, and either change it, or not, depending on how THEY want it to be. Maybe they'll even fix the obvious bugs (boss4, mementos) if they dont change the difficulty.

e)And Runewaker could care even less if you decide not to give money to Gameforge anymore.

f) Finally, what is this kind of logic? "I'm generelly mad at endgamers and they all are greedy a$$holes and whatnot so i throw around random threats about not spending money anymore on the forums because i think Gameforge who dont actually have to decide shit about actual ingame content might be thinking about changing instance difficutly that can only be described as bugged by anyone with simple knowledge of game mechanics, although no GF official said a freaking single word?"

Have you learned mind-reading in the last days or something? I mean, you expect to be taken seriously with that? From like...anyone? Let alone any GF CM or whatever else official.

You dont have to agree with Raves, or anyone else , neither do they have to agree with you. But the last few posts were simply retarded.

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PS: as for feedback, sometimes, only sometimes they take good stuff players made and integrate it into the game - usually worse than the player addon was. Happened to a crafting screen addon in the past, and with 6.0 they basically did a halfa--ed version of warrecord.

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and to everyone, not just Djkester:

Before any discussing current gear prices i would recommend taking a freaking look into itempreview or charplan and READ THE POSTS of those who cleared the instance, which say, noone needs new gear for this instance, even ToSH stuff is enough - and its TRUE This is 2011 Stuff. Anyone who is now going to tell me "we cannot acquire tosh stuff 1,5 years later" sorry, learn 2 play. So the reason to complain about whatever price is that you cannot buy gear for a price of your liking that even the sellers admit noone NEEDS ? "Hey, you dont need this for any content in this game, but if you still want it, its xxxxxxx" "Oh i dont need it but its waay too much greedy a...ole endgamer"... uhm... yeah. totally right to complain oO.

And there is so much stuff in the game for basically free (im talking about the base pieces, not the costs of upgrading with item shop items) that sometimes is even BETTER than the oh so expensive stuff. Still noone wants it. Hell, there are two rings for tanks available, in BLUE that can easily be better than the worldboss and the mementos ring if you setup your items differently. But it requires thinking and not copypasting of what someone else wears. Not everything that is purple and from $lastinstance is BiS. Still i get laughed at when i try to explain to someone why a certain blue item might be better than the expensive crap they bought ...


If you need an example of free great gear? anything for proof of myths. Yes thats right, FREE. FFS. The two events for POM were just ridiculous. I had retired my tank by the time the worldbosses were released already therefore i have slain Wodjin ONCE. As a "we need someone to rezz ppl" at wodjin support guy with level50. Still i had 80+ proofs after the first event, no questions asked for never slaying a single boss but getting the loot of whole guilds FROM WEEKS OF FARMING with a whole freaking raid rofl - for what? for tier3 RUNES worth 50 gold a piece before the event. Sold them at 77 cap release to someone i knew, my virtual gold wallet got happy :p

Gear to expensive to buy from other players? DO NOT BUY IT. Whats not sold will become cheaper over time.
USE YOUR BRAIN and look around for viable alternatives. They are there. Even for free if you do it correctly.



( i have no idea for how much diamonds and gear go on the US servers and i really could care less, but for comparision sake: the 2H axe from Bethomia was announced last night to have a bid of 60mil in 112 Dura and with Annihilation on it , on my server (Ionsai/DE) Cant tell if it was sold for more, but if, i would not expect it to be for over 75Mil. Diamonds were from 39.999-45k in masses in the AH while WC trade usually was between 30-35k, thanks to 120% diamonds. Int/matk from Bethomia was way below 10mil (6-7 i think and 5 for sta/def) already because people are farming it solo on easy mode and just extracting it with the random stone.
Instance status on the server as of last night: 1 guild cleared, 1 guild last boss @ 10%, 1 guild downed boss5, 4-5 other guilds downed 1-3. A lot of others are simply too scared to enter it although they are better geared than the guilds from the "downed 1-3 category" and could simply burn the crap out of it.


Comparsion with older instances in terms of guilds even attempting(!!! they dont even try, and within that group are guilds i have told multiple times that instances got cleared with half their gear and 3 levels lower ...this certainly can not be a lack of gear if they have it already but still cant do the instance the gear is from oO) to clear: No real change at all, the problem of the most is not gear or even time , but a lack of coordination , player skill, or even basic things like reading the runtime on food to use it in the correct order to make proper use of it, instead having everything run out after the first seconds ... and then "i do sooo much less DPS thats just because youre totally overgeared" ...oO(uhm, yeah dude, you have the same gear, you just suck.)

As said before, this Bethomia crap is not "easy" because someone has t12 weapons or t8 gear.

PPS: Plussing is teh suck. It was already this way at +6, got only worse with +12 and +16. Probably the most annoying thing when paying for upgrades because of the f..... failure rate. ABLs fusings drillers etc are not exactly cheap in the masses you need them, but atleast they dont fail.


way too long, pwnsnoobs kinda had a tldr of it, and others posted in between. As usual cookies for someone to read the whole mess. If the cookie monster isnt faster. But beware, it works for RW and cheats. And a bonuscookie for Kalvan for every profanity he finds that i missed censoring myself because im too lazy to read the whole thing again. But my last wall of text was pretty Kalvanproof heh.

wtb scroll bars for posts that are around this size.

Quoted from "bleedingblak;604132"

Say you get all the gear from this instance. Now you have it all statted. Now its all plussed and drilled with runes. Now, the level 82 instance comes out (or for 12 man raid case, the level 85 instance comes out) and you burn boss 1-7. The run took you an hour, and on the first try you have already downed the instance.

Please tell me how you are still interested on playing this game that you just spent all that money on? You would wind up in the shoes of all the endgamers who are considering quitting at this point.

I am not saying they may not do the same but I bet if you average how much Elusive pay per month and PPK pay per month, Elusive pay WAY more than you. They are nicer to the game community. I have NEVER seen PPK hold a world boss, while Elusive does. Elusive seems more willing to help the mid gamers than PPK. PPK is nothing more than elitist, game sucking, cheapskates on a whole vs Elusive, which is probably the best end game guild, at least on artemis... I don't know about Reni, but as much as I don't like Zid and some of the Raves, Borellas... they seem more helpful then PPK... SO yes, I have NO worry about PPK disappearing..... ever.

Edit to add: Yeah Yomen, your right it isn't a big deal if me and everyone I know quits paying, and they pass it to their friends and on and on. The big idea is, it is NOT just one person, saying they are gonna quit. You are right, just one means nothing. It is only when we band together that it starts to matter. Endgamers think they spend enough to keep a servers up and running (including you!!!). What is your job? I hope it isn't just through your website (which I love thx! you!, so you know it is nothing about you personally). These people think they can threaten the game and you don't jump their "ish" but you just MY "ish", just cause you don't like what I am saying? You didn't make any point about these endgamers threatening to quit over "being bored" which is way worse than threatening to quit paying over "catering to F2P endgamers".

Quoted from "Dkjester;604157"

I am not saying they may not do the same but I bet if you average how much Elusive pay per month and PPK pay per month, Elusive pay WAY more than you. They are nicer to the game community. I have NEVER seen PPK hold a world boss, while Elusive does. Elusive seems more willing to help the mid gamers than PPK. PPK is nothing more than elitist, game sucking, cheapskates on a whole vs Elusive, which is probably the best end game guild, at least on artemis... I don't know about Reni, but as much as I don't like Zid and some of the Raves, Borellas... they seem more helpful then PPK... SO yes, I have NO worry about PPK disappearing..... ever.

Whats the point in trying to make a point if you attack the people who you should try to reason with

Before everyone starts hating the idea of making gear more accessible start a new thread because no one is going to take a thing you say seriously in this thread.
Again I strongly suggest you make another thread on the topic you want to discuss because after the recent posts you have been making in this thread no one will listen to you since a greater part of the forum population are endgamers

I agree bb about what will happen if everyone has easier access to gear. People will start wanting more instances and Gameforge won't be able to handle the demand so people will start leaving. If there was another way similar to what is happening now in a way that would prevent a potential scenario bb laid out. That was just constructive criticism, not an insult towards you or mid-gamers

You've taken a thought about endgamers wanting to give them purpose to play and made it into one where endgamers don't want other people to have gear. If you start another thread and they come at you with that notion then you were right.

i'm not endgame or in a top guild so are you gonna come at me too or will you put forth your reasoning.

Quoted from "RoMunited;604160"

Whats the point in trying to make a point if you attack the people who you should try to reason with them

Before everyone starts hating the idea of making gear more accessible start a new thread because no one is going to take a thing you say seriously

I agree bb about what will happen if everyone has easier access to gear. People will start wanting more instances and Gameforge won't be able to handle the demand so people will start leaving. If there was another way similar to what is happening now in a way that would prevent a potential scenario bb laid out

I'm not an endgame or in a top guild so are you gonna come at me too or will you put forth your reasoning. Again I strongly suggest you make another thread on the topic you want to discuss because after the recent posts you have been making in this thread no one will listen to you since a greater part of the forum population are endgamers

Yes you make a point, but where were you making this point when they said I "couldn't play" or "didn't have friends" earlier in the posts, go look at them. You take one side and then attack with this "higher road" idea when your side has done things JUST as bad. Also if you haven't been on Artemis, they were caught botting, the game, I figure didn't do anything about it. They claimed the had people "blacklisted", yet they didn't know my characters and didn't respond to me either. So they were AFK.

Quoted from "Dkjester;604157"

I am not saying they may not do the same but I bet if you average how much Elusive pay per month and PPK pay per month, Elusive pay WAY more than you. They are nicer to the game community. I have NEVER seen PPK hold a world boss, while Elusive does. Elusive seems more willing to help the mid gamers than PPK. PPK is nothing more than elitist, game sucking, cheapskates on a whole vs Elusive, which is probably the best end game guild, at least on artemis... I don't know about Reni, but as much as I don't like Zid and some of the Raves, Borellas... they seem more helpful then PPK... SO yes, I have NO worry about PPK disappearing..... ever.

Edit to add: Yeah Yomen, your right it isn't a big deal if me and everyone I know quits paying, and they pass it to their friends and on and on. The big idea is, it is NOT just one person, saying they are gonna quit. You are right, just one means nothing. It is only when we band together that it starts to matter. Endgamers think they spend enough to keep a servers up and running (including you!!!). What is your job? I hope it isn't just through your website (which I love thx! you!, so you know it is nothing about you personally). These people think they can threaten the game and you don't jump their "ish" but you just MY "ish", just cause you don't like what I am saying? You didn't make any point about these endgamers threatening to quit over "being bored" which is way worse than threatening to quit paying over "catering to F2P endgamers".

I've gotten numerous whispers from multiple endgames from multiples servers saying they are quitting, selling gear. The instance is a joke. Why would they keep playing and farm the same thing all day?

I am saying, to the mid range not that well geared players, what happens when you are geared fully? What happens when you walk through that instance. Completed. Grats. Now the next instance comes out, and you finish it in one day. What do you do with the rest of your time? There goes the mid range guilds, and a lot more of them start quitting than the endgame guilds that quit before them (for the same reason).

PS: Idk what you mean we don't help the community. I don't pay for this game. I can't give handouts like the elusive members. They spend billions on gear, and tell PPK that our gear is terrible. They have amazing gear, but they had troubles. Everyone has troubles.

I help(ed) the community by making numerous KBN videos. Teaching them. Telling them strategies to EVERY BOSS IN KBN. I have numerous videos up showing how to do that. If someone cannot do what I am instructing in a video, what is their problem? They are lacking the skill to beat the boss. You don't need amazing gear to down bosses. Gear makes it easier. If we didn't have skill, we would wipe on every boss of KBN. SKILL.

We are not geared like ELUSIVE. Elusive pays for their gear. They have all the orange stats t9 gear t12 weapons etc, but they had troubles downing KBN, even tho we had much worse gear. Tell me why did they have troubles downing KBN? They didn't have the skill to do it.

I bet you'd be surprised to hear this! I even whisper a few of them. I even ran with them, telling them what they needed to do. Eventually 6th boss was downed, and I gave tips on 7th. I would hope they would believe this as I do, but I helped them with finishing that instance, just as they help the rest of the community by... whatever they do. I still whisper them and we talk back and forth giving each other tips for the new instance (even with the joke that it is).

TL;DR:
Endgame guilds (atm) are going to quit. Mid range guilds will start to clear Beth and get just as geared as an endgame guild should (no, not t12... t10. t7 / t6 gears..) The next 12man instance will come out, and it will be just as easy for them as it was for us. They will want to quit also. The new endgame guilds then quit. The cycle will continue.

Quoted from "Dkjester;604162"

I AGREE with gear being easily accessible, and one of the main guilds opposing it is PPK, which has been using it for profit for years. They WERE banned for exploiting first boss of KBNHM. That is a fact. Therefore that isn't attacking someone...... that is stating the truth. Where did I get the information about why they were banned, From a PPK that was not banned... They joined another guild until they were unbanned. You think it is an attack if it is the truth?

If you claim that pulling the boss out of the room to further manipulate the game to get gold faster was our goal, then maybe you should run with us sometime. We then afterwards did it the right way, and we did not lose any time. The point was not to make gold so I think you have no knowledge of how endgame works, or how it would end up if the endgame started being like this with each instance.

Also, pulling the boss out of the room is one thing, sure. But what about the guild that pulls the adds from 4th boss, kills the adds, and then leaves the instance to lose the buffs, go back in, and kill the boss? That is an actual DPS enhancing exploit. I think the guild you are praising is guilty (a good handful of guilds are... as well as pulling the boss. Not pointing fingers, IDC, hf). Why should I care though? I don't. Why should you care? You shouldn't.

Just like us, they are selling the gear they get for money, and to help people. I have multiple friends in certain guilds where I cut the price by 50% for gear to help their guild get better.

I don't make threads telling people that I am going to give away things, because that is not a thing that I can do. I also don't need to come on the forums and make posts about each community driven thing I do either.

Now com'on. Let's be serious about the topic at hand and stop talking about nothing.

Quoted from "Dkjester;604162"

Yes you make a point, but where were you making this point when they said I "couldn't play" or "didn't have friends" earlier in the posts, go look at them. You take one side and then attack with this "higher road" idea when your side has done things JUST as bad. Also if you haven't been on Artemis, they were caught botting, the game, I figure didn't do anything about it. They claimed the had people "blacklisted", yet they didn't know my characters and didn't respond to me either. So they were AFK.

I AGREE with gear being easily accessible, and one of the main guilds opposing it is PPK, which has been using it for profit for years. They WERE banned for exploiting first boss of KBNHM. That is a fact. Therefore that isn't attacking someone...... that is stating the truth. Where did I get the information about why they were banned, From a PPK that was not banned... They joined another guild until they were unbanned. You think it is an attack if it is the truth?

Your "truths" won't help you win an argument or make your point.

Whether or not they were exploiting does not matter.

cides Gameforge never really said it was an exploit for quite awhile. They made youtube vids about them running and bugging the boss. Because of this its pretty clear they thought that it was ok to use

You made 3 posts earlier about Raves not responding or something...clearly you were/are in rage mode So what if they insult or ignorantly argue with you...are you going to be the little kid who says "they started it"?

This is a thread about the affects this instance has had on ENDGAME players. Really, start a new thread about us mid-gamers unless you're just here to say these endgamers are all greedy, then stay and don't say no one warned ya

I truly think you have good intentions though

EDIT: seems there isn't any hope you'll follow through now though. GL trying to better mid-game when you continue to insult people :/

BB I don't mean you.. but you are the ONLY PPK that I respect. Literally dood. You are the only one that I have seen anything good from. You know I don't think I am anything big, but your guildmates are really not great. I think you, with a few others, that I will remain nameless cause I don't wan my sources of info to be known, are the only ones worth a dang. As you said you don't spend money on the game, THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING. I really think the people who really wanna be at the top should be the ones putting the money in... not the ones sucking it from someone else... Sorry.

BB again, you are the best PPk and it hurt me the day someone said you were botting. Hurt me even worse when I messaged you asking you if it was true and you didn't respond like you were afk. This was already after PPKs were afk macroing near Sardo... and again I messaged people, like Kanu, which I used to respect... cause I used to sell him diamonds..... back in chapter 2 I think it was. It hurts me to think that people I respected were nothing but cheaters.

Easy for you, is not easy for all. It needs to be easier for ALL to get gear out of these instances, especially weapons. If they fix it, I wont have faith that the game dynamic will ever be fixed for the better. That means I don't think my money needs to be wasted on this game. My gf and I were able to duo instances for a while.... it got harder and harder and harder...... regardless of what we spent. BTW you say I am a no name... I have told elusive members who I am.... cause they deserve to know. You all say you are recruiting and friends of mine say you don't even have respect to say, no thank you. She and I will always be solo in our guild. People we know who hoped to get ahead, saw you all recruiting in world... they messaged you and you blew them off... Real cool. Your guild is Garbage. Yet you take Eramina when she came back and rushed to gear her, yet better players we know you didn't even give respect enough to say, no thank you. You all are just low.

Quoted from "Dkjester;604166"

Easy for you, is not easy for all. It needs to be easier for ALL to get gear out of these instances, especially weapons

Let's stay on topic, aye nameless anon wonder?

This will become a problem. It will be that easy. EVERYONE will face the issue that the endgame guilds are facing ALREADY. Boredom.

It will be a week in, and everyone will be geared. Everyone will be done with the instance. EVERYONE will be bored if the new instances become like this. EVERYONE will want something new and fresh from the game. Now, instead of just the super pro endgamers quitting, MOST OF EVERYONE will want to quit. Instead of it being the .01% that quit, it will be that 60% that quit.

Please tell me that every guild that becomes geared finally after doing this (i hope it would be most of you...) that you are okay with this being the future of your rom instance running experience;

[video=youtube;Hi2P0skRlQ4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi2P0skRlQ4[/video]

Quoted from "bleedingblak;604167"

Let's stay on topic, aye nameless anon wonder?

This will become a problem. It will be that easy. EVERYONE will face the issue that the endgame guilds are facing ALREADY. Boredom.

It will be a week in, and everyone will be geared. Everyone will be done with the instance. EVERYONE will be bored if the new instances become like this. EVERYONE will want something new and fresh from the game. Now, instead of just the super pro endgamers quitting, MOST OF EVERYONE will want to quit. Instead of it being the .01% that quit, it will be that 60% that quit.

Hey I like not "go go go go" attitude I mean I am all on the boards in a nobody guild That is really why I don't give my name, most will go "WHO!?!?!" I would say we are upper mid game, I mean you all say 200k hp, 400k def knight. well my gf's 2 hander knight can hit that we have two p/k/s with 110k hp base, but I don't think we are on your level. I just hate that you all sell stuff not for what is fair. Certain of your members though do sell for what is "fair" and that is who I buy from. I don't see them as quitting, they will just move to another guild if things stay the way as is.

I think you all do deserve a challenge but I mean other games I play have it where more than 3% of a population can get gear and they have lasted longer than this game. One, 13 years!!!, OMG. It is literally the best PVP MMO ever! Cant beat skill based pvp that gear helps. People that suck with good gear, get sent packing, but good people with decent gear... send em packing. That dynamic keeps the game alive. This game is mostly gear, and reaction time. If gear was normalized most big cheese players would FREAK!!!. I know you wear tempest gear for pvp NO where near as well geared and own people... more skill than gear :

I just think this change while boring, most wont quit, but if boring is the only problem... then make the hard instance just drop more of the same gear. .... not better gear. That is better than most. I mean cmon even you were selling a 2 hander axe, UD for 50 mil, no plussing, statting, tiering, runeslot.... On and instance you say is too easy. 50 Mil for something that is too easy?

Quoted from "Dkjester;604169"

UD for 50 mil, no plussing, statting, tiering, runeslot.... On and instance you say is too easy. 50 Mil for something that is too easy?

Correct. Was the first time we went through. I thought it would be worth it.

But now i'm selling for 20m flat. Been that way since that run was done. Can check the AH if you'd like. Or maybe it came off already idr.

I checked earlier today, it was 40 mil this morning. You may have lowered it. Tung under bid you every time... might be the only reason it is so low. Again an Elusive making prices lower... Didn't change that it took you THIS long to reduce your price. How long have you thought the instance was too easy? yet you kept the price high. I mean if you think that is a fair price for an "easy instance", man I wonder what you charge for a full fledged instance... which just proves my point as to fleecing, which Raves and all wanted to avoid.

I mean I have been watching gear prices since this thread start for exactly this reason.... You all claim it has nothing to do with costs, yet you posted a video about how easy it is, then minutes later world chatter "50 million for 2handed axe" which was UD.... Dood I mean really.

Can we all agree that the amount of blue text or green text in this thread is terrible?

Just trying to bring the community together, you know..

Quoted from "CharlieBananas;604173"

Can we all agree that the amount of blue text or green text in this thread is terrible?

Just trying to bring the community together, you know..

+1 I agree, I wanna see one. Tell me if I need to open my wallet again, or give it to companies that can actually design a game that doesn't screw the people paying.

Quoted from "CharlieBananas;604173"

Can we all agree that the amount of blue text or green text in this thread is terrible?

Just trying to bring the community together, you know..

Yes. And they haven't said anything in the EU ones either (English EU, of course). I think Yoman mentioned earlier today that a staff member (dunno if mentor or cm) was encouraging people to run Bethomia to see if truly everyone believes it's easy and not just the "top25." Gathering feedback or something...or maybe they just haven't been able to confirm with Runewaker what their intentions are lol