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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 5:56pm

Siege Time Request

Shift Siege Time: yes or no

A total of 35 Votes have been submitted.

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Yes - Shift Siege back to 10pm (28)

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No - Keep Siege times as is at 8pm and 12am (7)

MMOs are games of habit. I think it would be wise to restore Siege to coincide with 10pm - a two hour shift.

Siege is now 4pm, 8pm, 12am, 4am, etc.
Move Siege to 2pm, 6pm, 10pm, 2am, etc.

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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 6:33pm

You do realize that other time zones exist right? I'm going to assume you mean 10pm eastern/7pm pacific, the pre-patch siege time.

If that's the case, I think it's a no brainer to have our normal siege time as one of the options to siege in.
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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 7:15pm

I wrote a two sentence post and you couldn't read the whole thing. Wow.
"a two hour shift"

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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 8:18pm

nobody likes change... but change happens. adapt. just because it doesnt work for "your" times.... dont forget theres people across the world that have it worse. There are people that were forced to siege at 2-3-4-5 AM.. and im sorry but this system now gives those people better options, yea no system works for all, but this system does give more options for people NOT LIKE YOU><
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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 8:21pm

I'm talking about a two hour shift. I'm not saying remove all the other siege times.

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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 8:51pm

I am conflicted on this.

I did like it better, but I have yet to figure out whether or not this change is actually a good thing, i have a hard time adapting.
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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 9:16pm

Quoted from "FarmerTom;603994"

nobody likes change... but change happens. adapt. just because it doesnt work for "your" times.... dont forget theres people across the world that have it worse. There are people that were forced to siege at 2-3-4-5 AM.. and im sorry but this system now gives those people better options, yea no system works for all, but this system does give more options for people NOT LIKE YOU><


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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 9:23pm

People need to learn to read.

Basically, he's suggesting we keep the current system, with multiple sieges.

But instead of having siege an hour before, or an hour after (or whatever it is now) from what it used to be, have it so that there is an organized siege in the old time slot, in addition to all the other sieges that occur.

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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 10:27pm

WTB THIS.

siege needs to be +/- 2 hours.

Essentially all the siege times will be pushed to be 2 hours later, or be 2 hours soon. That way there is the ORIGINAL siege time slot. What we are used to.

To everyone else who is saying its a stupid idea, I don't think you understand. Its the same system that he wants, just at different times so that we can also have the original siege time somewhere in there.

for EST it would look like 2pm 6pm 10pm 2am 6am 10am ... etc


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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 10:54pm

^ +1 Make original time one of the options.
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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 10:56pm

Quoted from "FarmerTom;603994"

nobody likes change... but change happens. adapt. just because it doesnt work for "your" times.... dont forget theres people across the world that have it worse. There are people that were forced to siege at 2-3-4-5 AM.. and im sorry but this system now gives those people better options, yea no system works for all, but this system does give more options for people NOT LIKE YOU><


People "across the world" could play on a server in their region instead of the US servers. Other times would still be there, but the times people in the US have suck now. 5pm pacific - people on the west coast are just getting off work and the next time 9pm pacific is too late for most east coast players. This is the problem.

Quoted from "froinlaven00;603991"

I wrote a two sentence post and you couldn't read the whole thing. Wow.
"a two hour shift"


I read your 2 sentence post and the wording of the poll and felt it could use clarification, just saying a time means nothing if you don't clarify what time zone the time(s) corresponds to.

Also, why snap at me, I agreed with you, lol
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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 11:10pm

There was a darn good reason for siege to be when it was, and that is the span of the continent. These are North American servers, and continental NA has three time zones. Time has to accommodate them all. The siege which is 8pm EST is 5pm PST, and that is too early. People are still at work, or on the way home. They can get in on next siege, which is at 9pm PST, but that is midnight EST. EST people not going to stay up that late.

The siege time that we had was the only one that allowed entire guild to participate without causing havoc with peoples schedules. Daylight savings time shift caused the participation problems already, shifting it permanently pretty much guarantees that most people cant do siege. Making it multiple time a day is interesting change, albeit not without its problems. But 2 hour time shift is bad.
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Saturday, June 8th 2013, 11:20pm

Siege time needs to be changed back to it's original 10pm EST. As it stands now, all siege times are either too early or too late for majority of the people in my guild. The multiple times are fine, we just need one to be at the normal time.

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Sunday, June 9th 2013, 12:56am

Quoted from "Quaffy2;604012"


I read your 2 sentence post and the wording of the poll and felt it could use clarification, just saying a time means nothing if you don't clarify what time zone the time(s) corresponds to.

Also, why snap at me, I agreed with you, lol


Starting a response with "You do realize...right?" was not a nice way to go.

Nevertheless, I edited the original post to be even clearer. I didn't think it was that hard to understand the word "shift".

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Sunday, June 9th 2013, 1:09am

I'm fine with what they are adding to siege but they shouldn't have moved the original time there's been MANY, MANY conversations/arguments over a single hour of change just leave it alone!


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Sunday, June 9th 2013, 1:59am

honestly, i like the new time...10pm EST was too late for me, and 6pm would be too early...8pm is perfect :P
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Sunday, June 9th 2013, 2:23am

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continental NA has three time zones.


4.
Eastern, Central, Mountan, Pacific.

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Sunday, June 9th 2013, 4:52am

For once I'm in total agreement with Mr. Pinkhat... (except for the 3 time zone thing, lol) ;)

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Sunday, June 9th 2013, 5:05am

we should have only one siege at 9 pm eastern 9 pm mountain and 9 pm pacific so we all siege at the same time

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Sunday, June 9th 2013, 7:47am

Quoted from "CharlieBananas;604025"

4.
Eastern, Central, Mountan, Pacific.


LOL... And I even took off some articles of clothing to count that high. Fail rogue is fail.

Still, I don't see good reason for shift. Yes, the current time works better for east-coasters or west-coasters, but not for entire guild, unless all of your guildies are one side of the continent. We have taken to be doing 8pm est slot, but participation is low, and it is low on both sides. All guilds are having problems finding good time to do this, and ultimately, siege is the only major game activity that is guild-wide and acts as a cohesive force for the guild. Without that group cohesion, people start drifting off, and that is bad for players and for gameforge.
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