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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 2:39pm

For the first time in awhile...

I'm actually feeling a little bit of hope again.



Dupe Hacks / Cheatengine and Co or what GF do about it


Thank you very much for this update MIka, and I'm very happy to hear that Gameforge has been working toward a solution to permanently prevent this from happening again, and I do hope that Gameforge will not adruptly end communications with the players yet again. This is the communication that we have always been asking for, and I'm very happy to see these updates.

Thought I'm also very eager to hear any news (once you have any news to share) about what will happen to the items that are, even at this moment, being generated by the dupers/hackers and making the last rollback for naught. Will there be another rollback once the issue is resolved?

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This post has been edited due to changes in the announcement posted by Mika. -TunaShake
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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 2:51pm

lol ruisen shhh ;)
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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 2:53pm


And Ceaht Engine (line 4)? Uh oh, looks like Gigi's typing is rubbing off you too :p



Naaah, he's just his usual dyslexic self :P

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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 2:58pm

Anyways to stay "on topic" on ONE of these posts, I'm glad they updated us and thats all i asked for, THANK YOU.
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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 3:23pm

Aye, tis good ter finally get offical wordin. Here's ter hopin the solution be rapid an just!

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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 3:24pm

Patch 6.01 on EU in ~3h ( 6:15 - 11:59 pm). Watch out for announcements on your realm later ;)

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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 3:39pm

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Our servers will be taken offline between 10:00 AM (PDT) and return at approximately 15:00 PM (PDT). During the maintenance we'll implement patch 6.0.1.


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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 4:04pm

The obvious thing that is highest priority is hacks and cheating, but I don't think this patch is it. The announcement is pretty much saying that Runewaker is looking at it, which means unless there is time disconnect, this patch is about something else

The main thing I want from this patch is siege time adjustment up by 2 hours (really, it is such a minor change that is causing lots of problems), the fix of quest past Frost Dragon Son to allow people to proceed with questline, and perhaps some Bethomia adjustments. There are other things, to be sure, but those are the top of my list.

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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 4:16pm

i agree ruisen! its good to finally hear SOME word about the issue that is all we really asked or wanted (next to FIXING the issue)

and im giggle at pinkhat dude :P
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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 4:22pm

Im sorry but id rather them fix the hackings before the other stuff sorry pink hat. who cares if they fix whatever else as logn as the hackigns are happening? no one will be palying.
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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 5:03pm

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It passes purely nothing at all to be irritated about it and to go on servers to bann people or clear the rankings. We want to catch the problem at the root and we don´t want to fight against the symptoms. To realize this, we must understand what has happened exactly or happens and how the illegal items come in the game.
Thanks for the update, Mika, the statement is sincerely appreciated. I'm just worried about this part I quoted above.

Please clarify this. Breaking the dupe mechanic(s) is obviously the most important thing at the moment, but that quote almost makes it sound like you're not planning on punishing the wrongdoers. We want you to cure the disease, oh yes yes we do!

But I think I speak for the entire community when I say that we want to see some punishment.


These dupers, these people who have been ruining our economy, dumping thousands and thousands of fake diamonds and gear onto our servers and AH's, these people who have been crashing us with their NPC's, these people who have made the Wild West of our game, with complete and utter contempt for GameForge and worse, the playerbase... well, I'll quote a guildie: "I want to see them in jail."


Now, I think most of us realize jail time is unrealistic, but I think ALL of us would be reassured by word that the perpetrators will be suffering the most permanent of permanent bans. I think we'd all be reassured by word that these people will have all their accounts, diamonds and possessions stripped. That you'll root out all the items they've collected and socked away for their personal enjoyment once the dupe is fixed.


Thirty day bans are a joke, really. And while that's a rumor, and not confirmed, I think we'd all like some reassurance that these people will see some real, genuine, PERMANENT consequences for their actions. What's more, I think I speak for all of us, again, when I say, we DON'T want these people on our servers. It's time for these jokers to GTFO. They've wreaked utter havoc.


Duping, or in this case, more properly, illicit item creation (including currency!), is the MOST destructive form of hacking possible in a video game. Exploits are cute in comparison. Even hacked accounts are less destructive, because as many people as they can hurt with hacked accounts, duping eventually effects every single player, because it directly affects our economy. Gameforge NEEDS TO TAKE A STAND and say NO MORE!


Please let us know that you're taking the necessary steps to make sure that the people who did this to us won't profit from their actions.
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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 5:26pm

Yeah, I want to see some punishment as well.

I am completely for a permanent ban for anyone who abused the bug/hack/cheat engine/gold selling.

I really don't care if it takes away half the server, I'd rather not play with illegitimate players who will take any opportunity to jump ahead of each other. I want all of the people selling 1 diamond for more than 100k gold to be banned permanently. I want anyone who has tiered their gear, or plussed it using the cheat engine banned permanently.

On another, less important note, Mika's typing is suspiciously close to the gold sellers lol. "Fast and sefe" "Nevre been bann"

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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 5:32pm

lol noony kind of agree,

and yes we want punishment but at fand. they didn't dupe anything they created it ;) you cant dupe + 16 t 22 gear xD
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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 5:35pm

lol noony kind of agree,

and yes we want punishment but at fand. they didn't dupe anything they created it ;) you cant dupe + 16 t 22 gear xD

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Reading. It's fundamental.
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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 5:39pm

lol noony kind of agree,

and yes we want punishment but at fand. they didn't dupe anything they created it ;) you cant dupe + 16 t 22 gear xD

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Duping, or in this case, more properly, illicit item creation (including currency!)
Reading. It's fundamental.
They say spelling is too, but I dont do that either.
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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 6:10pm

Mikas post which is unavailable now that the patch is announced basically meant to say thats it is of no use of going around and handing out bans and stuff while the underlying cause for all the crap going on on the servers is not fixed - which they are currently working on.

Which is bascially what people were and are saying all the time in the threads too. Bans are nice, but useless BEFORE the cause is fixed.
Whats the point in handing out bans if the same asshole is going to rejoin the server 10 minutes later and be fully equipped another 10 minutes later? Thats just a waste of time.
Im certain they are going to hand out bans afterwards. Thats not the issue. The issue is: will they be able to correctly identify and then remove all illegitimate gear and other items that came to the server through this hack/exploit? That entirely depends how much effort they put into tracking all of it afterwards, we'll see.

How do i know what he meant to say ? Well 2/3 of the posts were a translation of the statement "ThePit" made yesterday evening which is the new EU CM ...lets just say the german version was more readable :p (The only new information in Mikas post actually is that they already had a patch from Runewaker which seemed to be at QA currently - which is now obvious because were all getting a patch at about right now)

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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 9:15pm

there are 2 guilds on Palenque for damn sure using said hax and its blatantly obvious they are doing so...the entire nub guild went from shell gear to all od beth hard/proof gear ALL t8 +16 and completely orange statted in less than 48 hours....and entire guild with that capability?? hell no. even more so the weapons they have are all t12 +16 but not dirty tierd for damage like normal puri tiered with 1 stat on it? Either they're slow as hell or something is amiss. Most on the server know who the BIG spenders are who could afford such things which on Palenque prolly 10 people tops...I would hope they have some sort of in-game management i.e. GM's come to server after this maintenance and hand out severe punishment to those who have taken advantage of these hacks/exploits. I spend thousands of dias on this game monthly and I won't put another penny in with the way they have devalued my rl money until a real permanent fix is in place to stop this form happening again.
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Thursday, July 4th 2013, 9:21pm

All seemed well on artemis when I logged off yesterday, Just glad we got some feed back on this situation. Heres to hoping as usual :hail:

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Saturday, July 6th 2013, 12:27am

I can no longer click the annoucment? What did it say.
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Saturday, July 6th 2013, 2:19am

I can no longer click the annoucment? What did it say.
They removed to edit it. The cacti said that it should be up again soon.
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