Runes of Magic US / AU

Goblin mobs have about 40k hp at level 80 and give 500 tp per kill if solo and you have the house tp bonus. The "extra" elemental is random, has a bit over 300k hp and gives around 6x the xp and tp as a regular mob
At level 78 there wasn't much difference in health, had 3 in party, each player was getting 1200 xp and about 178 tp no matter what level they were.
You can still use the goblin chief if lower than level 60 as long as there is a person who is above 60.
The mimic chest gives 6 level 4 runes then disappears. I let it run free because I have no use for the runes, it will stay forever so there is no rush
The materials in the elemental chest will be equivalent to the highest level in the group

Yeah, I forgot those useless mimics and they also added a new miniboss for the water furnace, didn't got the name, my advise is, if you're bringing an alt leave him / her way behind before you enter the circle, because when you hit the fist mob of water elemental, all of them will aggro on you or even in your alt if is in range, and there are a lot of them. On me almost no damage at all, but who knows how new alts are geared then.

Stupid board software not letting me quote posts, dammit.

Zid, most execution ropes are made of either manila hemp (best) or sisal. Better to wish for silk than nylon, but it would stretch far too much to be a good execution rope.

I ran my 71/62 r/m through gobs, CoT, and (swapping to m/r) Survival Game. I had no real problems with any of them, took a bit longer in gobs than I've been used to, but no big deal there. I was astounded that in gobs I got both XP and TP, gratz RW, nice to get that, and makes the XP and TP powerups useful again. Since I toss rune drops, the Mimic will get ignored by me in the future. *if* there is a shorter-time version of GG that pops up (as it used to on rare occasions), I might have to hurry through a bit faster.

CoT took me about the same amount of time to get through. Since I don't use AoE attacks as an r/m, I had no issues with key drops "disappearing". Looks as if mages and other AoE users will have to be more careful. Rewards were meh for this first time through. I toss low-order Phirius pots and waters (A & B), I have no use for furniture recipes, so they get tossed, too. I miss not getting fusion stones, since I always have put those in the AH for some quick cash.

Survival Game wasn't much different than it was before, other than most mobs disappeared after being killed. It took about the same amount of time to go through it. Bombs and the damned clown knockdowns did more damage, but even with 42K HP (mage side) they didn't really cause problems for me. Got TP in SG, again gratz to RW for that.

ok I had said I hadn't gotten to try the games, I have to say, no problem at all in gobs, just got a nice chunk of TPs, which made me happy and I can now use it to level up relationship buffs, so Actually I am VERY happy with those changes. I got Sirius in there twice in a row... don't know if he is meant to be there now, but hey already an improvement, so also cool, Malatinas... next to no diff as well. No change to Andor except shell.. yippie!

I haven't tried ancient treasure yet, but ill say even if it is undoable... don't care, cause I can just do andor instead and still get the same shells a day.



I was very unhappy with the concept, but the actual implementation is not bad at all. All my comments were made as an "if they this" "If they that", However not unhappy with what I have seen so far.. On to ancient treasure, but now with andor, like I said doesn't really matter if it is a no go.



Edit to add: Well that Ancient treasures is a freaking joke. I probably wont even bother with it anymore. Rewards aren't that good, and the mobs are too quick to aggro. That is one reason I leveled my alts higher, was to make that game a little easier with the aggro. I mean cmon you couldn't done the mobs to be 3-5 levels lower, with a minimum level of like 60. Would make it not quite such a waste of time. Ill just be running andor more cause got 20/20/20/30 I the 4 runs I did, so whatev. I don't get though why they even had to mess with them. If you were doing the mini games for "excitement" or a "challenge" I just don't get you. Ohh well, keep on going not fixing stuff that needs to be fixed and "adjusting" stuff that doesn't. This game will just become more of a joke and ghost town. I mean what diamond prices have doubled? I guess the only ones buying diamonds to sell for gold, weren't buying them but "creating" them. And they wonder why they have to close one of their offices. Maybe the next one will be the main office.

Quoted from "Dkjester"

I haven't tried ancient treasure yet, but ill say even if it is undoable... don't care, cause I can just do andor instead and still get the same shells a day.

Ancient treasure is not just about shells (and I think 30 shells in Andor is going to be hard to get for many people anyway). You also get mounts, good for alts that don't have permanent. You get some otherwise unobtainable recipes, such as Serenstum.

And, the real prize of it is backpack tickets. You get 7 day or 30 day ticket for 5 day worth of prizes, which allows dwarves and recently rolled toons to keep at least 3 pages open at all times. That is, AFAIK, only way to get that in-game, besides item shop, of course. If I dont figure out how to survive that mini-game, I am going to miss my free backpack space big time.

Especially since it seems like we are never ever going to see a sale on permanent backpacks.

I had the same problem with CoT, but immediately figured it was because I busted the tile for the key. Decided I would wait and see how it went today without busting the key tiles. Good to see that seems to fix the problem. so chalk that one up to new game, new tactic. I get it, no problem.

The SS game really made me mad. I was playing it cool, and had made it to the inner circle. As soon as I entered, I hit invisibility, and got a message about conditions not being met or something like that. Figured it was an error in the game.

made my way to the candle, got gang-mobbed, hit feign death, and then proceeded to get more than gang-MOBBED. It hurt. I died.

So neither of the skills I fired in the inner circle worked, which is the place you need them the most. At this point, I'm not sure if this is an error in the game (and really, it could be) or if it is designed that way.

If none of the skills work in the inner circle, I don't see how anyone could finish the game. I would be interested in hearing from someone who WAS able to complete the SS game.

As for survival and gobs, they worked basically fine for me. I did notice Sirius hammertooth was present in the final room, yet I had the full amount of time to complete. I've only seen him before when the short version was pulled.

Did Minis on 2 toons yesterday, and so far, 2 today. Have gotten 30Shells in Andor all 4 times, lowest amount of points I got was 2700ish. And have gotten both "keys" all 4 times so far. The loot upgrades are definitely better then what there was before, although looting/ vendoring gear from Malas helped with buff tower costs everyday. I like that they upgraded the musical instrument package to getting 6 resources from it instead of 2, but why didn't they upgrade the one from Course of Terror too?

As far as Ancient Treasures goes....the agro range on the mobs is way too large. I can see making it so you cant go up and kiss them anymore, but to make it so that you cant even skirt along the walls anymore and run past is just crazy.

I also have to gripe a bit about course of terror, my 76 Priest/ 50 Knight is not oober geared, and it is definitely taking a lot longer to run him through there because the Iron Barricades have more hps, and are elite so you miss more and crit less. I guess I have to make a 3rd side for him and do a dps? This is F'in stupid as well. Change it to be slightly harder, but don't make it impossible for non dps classes to do.

I mostly run ROM solo, so I don't do end game instances for gear/ stats, I rely on doing Minis and getting shells to get stats. With the rate of getting a good stat being like 1 in 4 or 5 lately, and making it now harder to get shells, I think they will push away a lot of casual/ solo players. Isnt that why they added the shells in the first place, to give casual players a chance at gearing up? Not to mention, if I get less stats, i'll be using less Purify stones, so i'll be using less diamonds, ie spending less RL cash on this game. Is that what they are aiming for, to lose more money/ players then they already have?

Quoted from "Etcha"

Did Minis on 2 toons yesterday, and so far, 2 today. Have gotten 30Shells in Andor all 4 times, lowest amount of points I got was 2700ish. And have gotten both "keys" all 4 times so far. The loot upgrades are definitely better then what there was before, although looting/ vendoring gear from Malas helped with buff tower costs everyday. I like that they upgraded the musical instrument package to getting 6 resources from it instead of 2, but why didn't they upgrade the one from Course of Terror too?

As far as Ancient Treasures goes....the agro range on the mobs is way too large. I can see making it so you cant go up and kiss them anymore, but to make it so that you cant even skirt along the walls anymore and run past is just crazy.

I also have to gripe a bit about course of terror, my 76 Priest/ 50 Knight is not oober geared, and it is definitely taking a lot longer to run him through there because the Iron Barricades have more hps, and are elite so you miss more and crit less. I guess I have to make a 3rd side for him and do a dps? This is F'in stupid as well. Change it to be slightly harder, but don't make it impossible for non dps classes to do.

I mostly run ROM solo, so I don't do end game instances for gear/ stats, I rely on doing Minis and getting shells to get stats. With the rate of getting a good stat being like 1 in 4 or 5 lately, and making it now harder to get shells, I think they will push away a lot of casual/ solo players. Isnt that why they added the shells in the first place, to give casual players a chance at gearing up? Not to mention, if I get less stats, i'll be using less Purify stones, so i'll be using less diamonds, ie spending less RL cash on this game. Is that what they are aiming for, to lose more money/ players then they already have?

This is the point I was making at first, if they wanna make less diamonds go right ahead and keep making changes like this. My gf has already decided it is time to quit, and so have my guildies. Ill still be running dailies, but if they just want to close down the game they had the perfect excuse with the hackers.

Meh on COT complaints. While it is not good to lock people out due to destroyed keys, destroying unopened tiles was always a technique that is a little fishy. Not exploit by any means, no; but still fishy.

Same goes for DPS complaints. COT was made very marginally harder, not impossible or nearly impossible like Ancient treasure one. All min-games have the classes that do them well and some that do not so well. Before P/S nerf, my P/S alt run GG very fast but sucked in COT. My main R/S zips through COT, but can barely complete Survival; but my K/S can barely complete COT, but zips through Survival. Different games, different challenges.

Switching to another mini.... If I do nothing at all in Andor, I get 10 shells, if I go all out, I still get 10. That means I am not uber enough to do as well as people who get 30, QQ QQ. Would be nice to know where boundary from 10 to 20 is. If I can't get to 20 anyway, I am just going to lose on 1st wave and save me some time. Anyone has a clue?

LOL Rusty, Don't say that too loud, or else they will go in and "adjust" that too, so you don't get anything if you are under like 1500 pts.

I mean really though, they just aren't making a good case for them being a bad gaming company. My gf wondered what the office where the servers are looked like. I told her it is probably a room they rent off of someone else, and they have 1 server guy there, with a fold out card table sitting there playing solitaire

she laughed her ass off, then I told her it isn't funny... it is probably true.

Quoted from "Asphodelix"

and that little bit will prolly have players doing it and that will help a lot only one ik who does it to an extreeme is ibby and sper helps some tho ibby has more alts than zidd

Quoted from "Asphodelix"

and that little bit will prolly have players doing it and that will help a lot only one ik who does it to an extreeme is ibby and sper helps some tho ibby has more alts than zidd

Alts?? what are alts?? me i have friends in my head, in my head head head head , Zombie zombie zombie oh wop oooohhhhhh nanaaaaaaaaa


Well ran my alts in the minis and no problem at all, they do have the tempest, varanas etc sets wit hbag stats so that helps too ;-) But i am just Disturbed that way. I love the new minis!!!! ok 23 more to go have a nice day!!!!

Quoted from "Dkjester"

LOL Rusty, Don't say that too loud, or else they will go in and "adjust" that too, so you don't get anything if you are under like 1500 pts.

I mean really though, they just aren't making a good case for them being a bad gaming company. My gf wondered what the office where the servers are looked like. I told her it is probably a room they rent off of someone else, and they have 1 server guy there, with a fold out card table sitting there playing solitaire

she laughed her ass off, then I told her it isn't funny... it is probably true.

Well, I like shells as much as next guy, but my inner lazy butt says that if I am not good enough to reach 20, why bother. In immortal words of one Homer Jay Simpson - "Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is - never try".

The servers are in a data center, a special facility that provides connectivity, monitoring, backup and recovery, etc. Most small to medium size companies find it more economical than doing the work in-house. My old company had 4000 employees and still used data centers. So, yes, it is true that it is a room they rent, but not like described.

Quoted from "Murkalael"

Yeah, I forgot those useless mimics and they also added a new miniboss for the water furnace, didn't got the name, my advise is, if you're bringing an alt leave him / her way behind before you enter the circle, because when you hit the fist mob of water elemental, all of them will aggro on you or even in your alt if is in range, and there are a lot of them. On me almost no damage at all, but who knows how new alts are geared then.

Just to add, in the past once you had killed five elementals and the mini boss spawned (Evelyn before, now something like Faelenor) it can spawn/move to anyone in the party.

I've had players in the past when asking to be run through afk at the entrance only to be surprised when Evelyn pops up beside them.

I did Andor range again today on another toon, must of had lag by the time I did it, got 2300points and only got 20Shells. as earlier stated with 2700, I got 30, but I also did not have many pass the line on that run. So maybe the cutoff is 2500 to get 20 or 30 shells? And Andor has nothing to do with gear, class skills etc, its just pure skill in killing the waves, hoping for a bit less lag etc. I know a friend who uses a gamepad and does great because he has the main fire attack hotkeyed, whereas I have to keep hitting Alt+1 so its a bit trickier.

One thing that helped me a lot in Ancient Treasures was actually using the extra special skills in the round boxes. I got lucky and pulled two immunes and one Ghost Cavalier Commander and used all three in the inner circle to win. It's totally worth the extra time to get those skills. The yellow chests had much better guild rewards than usual, including rubies, but I was disappointed that the green and purple chests drop the same old junk.

Quoted from "Ziav"

problem is for me it takes much more mana for each purg than it used to. Like I said in my original post I've got 30k and at most previous to this patch I would use 15k constantly purg'ing everything. Now I actually have to pot and regen, nothing changed as far as the difficulty, just the mana cost inside.

Why does it take much more mana for each purg? Did they raise purg mana costs?

Though there's always the mana phirius pots you get millions of from gobs, so I'm not too concerned abut mana, have like 10 stacks of them pots.

Quoted from "ruisen2000"

Quoted from "Murkalael"

and they considerable increased the ammount of mobs, is almost like a free tosh powerlvl free, since even if mobs are lvl 80 for me, they're still 1.1K HP. One AoE lots of exp / tp

Can anyone post a screenie? Really want to see the new and improved Gobs with mobs drastically increased. Maybe people will start showing mages more love now, since our T-storm has no cap on how much mobs it can hit

Tstorm does actually have a cap... as does purg. You figure that out when you're ToSh bug farming for hours on end :p

Quoted from "ruisen2000"

Quoted from "Ziav"

problem is for me it takes much more mana for each purg than it used to. Like I said in my original post I've got 30k and at most previous to this patch I would use 15k constantly purg'ing everything. Now I actually have to pot and regen, nothing changed as far as the difficulty, just the mana cost inside.

Why does it take much more mana for each purg? Did they raise purg mana costs?

Though there's always the mana phirius pots you get millions of from gobs, so I'm not too concerned abut mana, have like 10 stacks of them pots.

i have 2 stacks of all the potions cept for 2 of them kinda just getting to the toss point

Me done did run the Ancient Treasure minigame this day, twas fun, a new challenge. This tis by no means impossible. Yer jus hast ter stop bein lazy, an watcher yer aggro range. Iffn the Mob be on the horizon, watch yer location. Also, as Dellenn stated, checker out the little skill boxes. They doth maker the game so much easier.