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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 2:06am

Siege at 10pm edt!

Should we have one siege slot at 10pm EDT again?

A total of 54 Votes have been submitted.

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Yes, 8pm is too early and 12pm is too late. (43)

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No, I like it the way it is. (11)

Ok, so siege has been "different" for a while now, and I think it's time we all vote and see if people want to go back to being able to siege at 10pm EDT like we used to.

Heretic used to be the second best siege guild in the US. We're sliding down and it's not because we stopped gearing or forgot how to siege. It's mostly because siegeing at 8pm is too early for all the West Coasters and 12pm is too late for the East Coasters and we're about divided in half. So no one shows up and we get zerged, when we even remember to sign up.

I hate the multiple time slot idea too, but let's just be realistic and leave that alone, cause you know they won't change it. But they should be able to adjust our timeslots. I am saying that 10pm Eastern time is the ideal time for North American prime time siege.

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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 2:46am

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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 3:04am

i agree Fanny 8 est is too early and 12 est is too late.
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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 3:16am

i vote for 9pm eastern time, 8pm guildies are getting settled in after getting home from work, 12pm most people have to sleep so they can go to work, 11pm same thing, 10pm less people going to sleep but still a decent amount, 9pm however is somewhat more in between the people getting home and the people that work mornings...

obviously it wont work for every time zone, but before people agree that siege should be back at 10pm est, let me ask you this, are you in eastern time zone? if yes, and you want 10pm, im happy that works for you, if no, then just ask yourself would you want to siege at 10pm in your current time zone?

i vote 9pm... the option thats not there lol
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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 3:18am

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i agree Fanny 8 est is too early and 12 est is too late.


See, even guilds that can put up 30 people at 8pm slot :p agree.

This is close to unanimous opinion and has always been established that for US market, that is the only siege time that works for everyone. Our guild used to put high 20s count, now many days we dont hit double digits. We have too many guildies who used to log in around siege not logging in; the chances they come back once time is fixed are slim. It's been too long, the population loss over that is not reversible. And it is such a minor change that it is ridiculous they cant do it, even in the middle of the Karlsruhe move.

Oh, and Karma, 9pm is 6pm on left coast. You think people can get home by 6pm, deal with whatever needs to be done after work and then get in for siege? Aint happening.
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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 4:10am

oh dont get me wrong i wouldnt want to siege at 6pm either, i lived in cali for a few years, traffic is brutal there, an idea i think could be a better solution would be since we get to choose a siege time already, i think instead of siege time being every 4 hours its could be something like this...

8pm, 9pm, 10pm, 11pm eastern times, with a 1 sign up limit though

--guilds could choose earlier in the day which one of those times they want to siege at, and after 7pm they cnat change their time slot

--also for those 5 hours, no guild recruiting to prevent mercs from hoping around from siege to siege

--it will also stop people from point dropping/raising so fast and maybe even calm the masses a little more

just a thought though of course
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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 10:31am

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Yes, 8pm is too early and 12pm is too late.

Technically, if 8pm is too early, then 12pm (which is 8 hours earlier still) would be way too early! :D
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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 10:47am

I voted for old siege time, the 2 current siege times just do not work.

I posted a thread for this a few days ago, and Kalvan replied:

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There haven't been any decisions made yet. Mika told me he will ask to see if it's technically possible to shift the entire set of Siege and Organized Guild Wars times."
I'm not sure why it would be "technically impossible" to shift siege time (Though I did later clarify that I means only 1 of the siege times, not the entire set of times), but I definately hope a change happens soon. Both new siege times do not work for me except during breaks/weekends, so I'm hoping for old siege time.

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oh dont get me wrong i wouldnt want to siege at 6pm either, i lived in cali for a few years, traffic is brutal there, an idea i think could be a better solution would be since we get to choose a siege time already, i think instead of siege time being every 4 hours its could be something like this...

8pm, 9pm, 10pm, 11pm eastern times, with a 1 sign up limit though

--guilds could choose earlier in the day which one of those times they want to siege at, and after 7pm they cnat change their time slot

--also for those 5 hours, no guild recruiting to prevent mercs from hoping around from siege to siege

--it will also stop people from point dropping/raising so fast and maybe even calm the masses a little more

just a thought though of course
If I understand correctly, you're suggesting 4 different siege times. Even with 2 different siege times, there is already a very small variety of guilds at each point level due to too few guilds. With 4 siege times, yikes, would hate to be in the one PPK signed up in, otherwise you'd be stuck with them every second day :D
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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 10:59am

Im usually for the masses and voted for the regular slot, but right now my guild is doing well in the 4pm est slot and we have a good attendance. the only problem is we facing those azhats guilds that drop points to below 1k but have 100-180k HP OP Players farming badges, unfortunetly for them this week we either beat them or tie. So in your face! :D TBT's back in black!

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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 2:38pm

I am in the Eastern time zone. 10 o'clock works for me because it means it's done by 11pm which is a comfortable time to start a quick run and get to bed a little after midnight, and since I work at 9am like a lot of people, that's a fairly standard sleep pattern across the eastern time zone.

And I saw what u did thar, inferiority -_- Picky, picky.

If I could choose just for me, the ideal time would be 9pm eastern, but the whole point of this is a return to normality for everyone. We've lost a lot of people to other games because siege is what they liked to do, and they don't want to do it at the oddball times, with oddball guild matchups. I think if we went back to 10pm est as a choice, it would still accommodate the guilds that like the oddball hours, but for those of us sieging at 10, it would feel more like "real siege."
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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 4:18pm

Let me make this simple for the powers that be. The ability to choose from multiple siege times is a good one, but one of those times needs to be the original siege time.

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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 4:43pm

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Let me make this simple for the powers that be. The ability to choose from multiple siege times is a good one, but one of those times needs to be the original siege time.
Its definitely a good concept, but imo, not good in reality. With guilds spread out over 2 siege times, there just aren't enough guilds at each point level. Even with 1 siege time, we were getting the same opponents quite often. With 2 siege times, the only time we got a siege against an opponent with roughly equal points was always the exact same guild. The rest was either against guilds with double/triple or half our points.

As Fanny said, it'd be unrealistic to ask them to change the whole thing back (as much as I'd like them to), a good first step would be to move one siege time to the old siege time.
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Saturday, July 27th 2013, 10:30pm

I would love to see the siege time be moved to 10 pm. I work from 8 am to 8 pm so even if I race home and jump straight into siege it is mostly over or completely over.
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Sunday, July 28th 2013, 7:07am

Party pooper here.

Can I have another option?

I don't feel like I've been given enough choices.
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Monday, July 29th 2013, 12:24pm

New Times is a godsend for me

I hate to dissent, but I actually love the new siege times. It offers everyone an option and to be honest, 10pm siege was killing those of us that have to get up early to commute on the east coast. With 8pm siege, I am able to play siege every night and still get a good nights sleep. Life is much better for me, but I can see how it may have fractured some guilds with mixed time-zone people.

They could shift the sieges up 1 hour and I'd still be OK at 9pm est, but I don't want to go back to 10pm est.

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Monday, July 29th 2013, 1:45pm

I hoenstly don't see why people are complaining. They got what they wanted, multiple seiges a day, GF does seomthign they want and now peopel complain!? weird hwo that works.
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Monday, July 29th 2013, 3:23pm

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I hoenstly don't see why people are complaining. They got what they wanted, multiple seiges a day, GF does seomthign they want and now peopel complain!? weird hwo that works.
The problem is, some ideas are only good on paper. People didn't anticipate the problems that might arise, which can't really be put against them. I mean, even NASA make silly mistakes sometimes when they didn't think of every single problem that might happen.
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Monday, July 29th 2013, 4:03pm

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I hoenstly don't see why people are complaining. They got what they wanted, multiple seiges a day, GF does seomthign they want and now peopel complain!? weird hwo that works.
The problem is, some ideas are only good on paper. People didn't anticipate the problems that might arise, which can't really be put against them. I mean, even NASA make silly mistakes sometimes when they didn't think of every single problem that might happen.
Like this nasa mistake? lol
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Monday, July 29th 2013, 5:47pm

There do be two issues under discussion. One be bout multiple sieges (which tis a good idear, imo), an the other be bout the change o siege times which no include the time that we hast had historically (bad idear, imo). Lookin back over previous situations fer siege time changes, GF shoulda been able ter recognize that NOT puttin one o the siege timers at the previous siege time would raise issues. So, this poll either no be correctly worded (tis kinda vague), or the creator wanted ter create confusion bout these two issues. In theory, we should be able ter both siege multiple timers in a day, whilest havin one o those siege timers at the old time. Overall, this no should be hard ter do, since we doth know that in the past GF hast changered the server time ter move our siege forward/backward in time ta adjust wit our DST. Me no tis sure why they be balckin at this.

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Tuesday, July 30th 2013, 1:06am

Fanny made me get back on the forums just so i could answer this. I like 12, more of my guild can participate in 12pm sieges. It changes from guild to guild, some guilds it works awesome for, for others its shitty. Sorry fanny :-\.

I honestly dont have a remedy, cus just shifting by two hours would suck for some people, i would have to stay awake until a 2 am siege, and thats equally shitty for me and my guild. People are still at work at 8pm sieges.
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