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Friday, August 2nd 2013, 6:48pm

RoMage: ever heard of BOFH ? :)

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Friday, August 2nd 2013, 8:09pm

Kindly stay on topic here, don't head off onto wild tangents or things that have little or nothing to do with the discussion, 'mmkay?
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Friday, August 2nd 2013, 9:26pm

Honestly, I really only see egg rice dumpling usage in the top 3-4 ranked sieges. Even then, its not the whole guild (on either side) using them. Out of those guilds, I've found only 1 has been complaining about the usage - although they were heavy egg rice users themselves some time ago. My guess is they are running/have run out, and have taken to the forums to QQ.

There was only 1 guild I had suspicion of duping their consumables. The other guilds I'm relatively confident they got by normal means, given most are long time players and relatively wealthy. The guild I had suspicion about, due to recent events, does not exist anymore.

There are a lot of overstatements about egg rice usage. One being is that we pop them "every siege." Simple not true. Lets say it was Heretic v....idk. Disturbed. I wouldn't egg rice, neither would 99% of my guild. (Sadakko pops everything regardless of who we face. Vs a 2k point guild you'll see him with 500k+ hp running instruments and strong stim. But thats his deal.)

I personally really only use egg rice vs PPK/Bteam, maybe EDH due to rivalry, and maybe once during an MA siege due to the fact that I have a huge target on my back with them. Not uncommon to see 2-3 rogues + a champion gunning for me.

So heres my question. Is egg rice really that prevalent in the lower sieges, or is it just a few "used to have, but not anymores" QQing and blaming their losses, or difficult sieges on egg rice? Because I'm sorry, taking away egg rice won't fix the fact that even though you outnumber you're opponent, you can't grasp the simple objective of holding towers and defending in siege. It won't fix the fact that you're disorganized, and get outplayed by an opponent who you outnumber by almost 2x. It won't fix your keyboard turning, your backpedalling, your clicking instead of keybinding, your dumb decisions, it won't teach you how to properly play your class, and it certainly won't make you any more coordinated as a guild.

Some people (well, I actually think most) egg rice users in siege are either wealthy, or happen to be relatively lucky with the generosity of their friends/guildmates, who have played when egg rice was more accessible. Not to mention all legitimate.

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Saturday, August 3rd 2013, 11:54am


So heres my question. Is egg rice really that prevalent in the lower sieges, or is it just a few "used to have, but not anymores"
At 1500-3000 points range for the past year, I've almost never encountered people using egg rice. Against non endgame guilds (Endgame guilds almost always egg rice against us for some reason :( ), I only remember seeing it around 4 times, twice on a tank/tanky guy, once on a guy who got annoyed with me spam-killing him when he has over twice my HP, and once with Cloak showing his epeen.
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Saturday, August 3rd 2013, 2:50pm

lower point sieges, I have never seen ERD being used. It just doesn't happen. Unless the people have a real chip. Once I did see someone using them in a 200-400 pt guild, which was kinda sad. Those I would say are few and far between.

I really think the "they are OP in siege!!" argument is pretty invalid. Cause I mean if you know of a guild that uses them, then just get ready for it when going into siege.

However, I do believe that ERD is a huge imbalance in the game (which is why I assume you don't see them being handed out), like they are trying to phase them out, which I am ok with. They should never remove the ones left. However, they could give an option to trade them in... say for something people may use (diamonds, golden eggs, I don't really know what I would trade mine in for). It is though an imbalance and if people want to use up the limited supply in siege, let em. Not like the ones who can afford to do it are really well geared to begin with :P

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Saturday, August 3rd 2013, 6:58pm

Still support Yoman's proposition of doing a sweep on egg rice to find the illegitimate ones, if any. As long as they get the last legitimate creation date right. If there are duped egg rice out there, I want them gone. This should happen.

Deleting all egg rice or disabling them from siege? I don't support these.

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Saturday, August 3rd 2013, 7:21pm

even without an actual timestamp these items are bound to have some kind of ID just to be indexed and i dont mean the itemid.

2 years of non-creation of these items any database query for those is bound to look something like this, even without knowing anything of the actual rom db structure:

SELECT ALL THE DUMPLINGS ( http://i.imgur.com/BbcXq09.jpg :D )

123456 dumpling
123457 dumpling
....
....
....
.....
(indexing of items continues for another 2 years but without dumplings)
1234567674342312313 dumpling <- HUH, yeah right. but hey we didnt give them any the last 2 years

not a too hard to grasp concept especially for items that were not again added into the game in any way for about 2 years. ;)

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Saturday, August 3rd 2013, 11:48pm

even without an actual timestamp these items are bound to have some kind of ID just to be indexed and i dont mean the itemid.

2 years of non-creation of these items any database query for those is bound to look something like this, even without knowing anything of the actual rom db structure:

SELECT ALL THE DUMPLINGS ( http://i.imgur.com/BbcXq09.jpg :D )

123456 dumpling
123457 dumpling
....
....
....
.....
(indexing of items continues for another 2 years but without dumplings)
1234567674342312313 dumpling <- HUH, yeah right. but hey we didnt give them any the last 2 years

not a too hard to grasp concept especially for items that were not again added into the game in any way for about 2 years. ;)

They were still being given out by U.S. GMs up until near the end of last year. Like I said, last known giveaway was on Reni one night, thread made about it, other servers got jelly, lot of QQ, then egg rice no longer given away.

Just find that thread, any rice after that post date would be illegitimate.

edit: Found the thread. Can conclusively say that this was the last time egg rice was legitimately given out, on any server. After this thread, egg rice ceased to be given away at GM events.

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another edit: You know what. I blame the egg rice drought on Fan.

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Sunday, August 4th 2013, 12:05am

the basic concept stays the same though ;)