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Thursday, August 15th 2013, 2:07am

wow Ruis... is it really that easy? I solo burn all of KT norm... Since I couldn't burn GC norm, I haven't thought of trying higher instances solo. Wow I am gonna have to go and try.



Maybe there is more than can do KBNE... I just don't see it. But again it could be peeps aren't running it, which is why I am not seeing it. So gonna this weekend try burning a few more instances solo.

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Thursday, August 15th 2013, 3:47am

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Mm, false. The second boss in ToSh is a million times harder than the first boss, BY FAR. Although I see your point with the first two bosses being some of the hardest in the instance, though sixth and fourth are also a PITA. That instance all around is just great.. I loved it.

Meh.. bedim second isn't really that difficult at all. Third is alot more difficult. Second just requires a warden/scout or someone with ppots or cake.

KBN first is a cakewalk, second is admittedly difficult but since it can be skipped it doesn't really matter. Third is an extremely simple strat. Fourth is admittedly stupid by all who ran that instance. Fifth is easy. Sixth is the hardest boss in the instance, And seventh is a cakewalk. So KBN is just kind of a hard instance all around not really just cause of the first couple bosses. If anything KBN does a good job of having the easiest bosses at the beginning.

Bethomia is just burn.. idk if there even is a strat so can't comment.
Thats weird, maybe we got lucky than. Took us 6 hours to get past first boss in TOSH-H. When I came back an hour later, they told me next 3 bosses were already down.

Bedim I based on easy mode (I assumed that I could extrapolate that to normal, but I guess not). Strat for third boss on easy is actually pretty easy, just have to hug the boss when he calls your name. But even on easy, second boss is absolute hell. In PuG groups, 99% of the people absolutely refuse to even do second boss on Bedim easy.

and you guys say Palenque is bad?? we cleared bedim norm with a pug jus few weeks after its release :whistling:
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Thursday, August 15th 2013, 8:27pm

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The problem I see with making only the last couple bosses hard is weapon distribution, either have weapons only coming off the last couple or make every boss hard, I'd vote for the latter, Annelia is a good baseline for a 'hardmode' boss.
I think there's a bit of misunderstanding. I don't mean to purposely make the last bosses harder than they're supposed to be. What I mean is, the bosses in an instance should be rearranged from easiest to most difficult.

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wow Ruis... is it really that easy? I solo burn all of KT norm... Since I couldn't burn GC norm, I haven't thought of trying higher instances solo. Wow I am gonna have to go and try.

Maybe there is more than can do KBNE... I just don't see it. But again it could be peeps aren't running it, which is why I am not seeing it. So gonna this weekend try burning a few more instances solo.
Third boss is probably one of the most dfficult in KBNE, followed by the black trash mobs that shadow prison you for 10 seconds. First boss is probably about as diffiult as DoD first boss. Only a little over 2m HP if I remember correctly (Around the same as DoD), and with mage shield, did not do a single point of damage on me by the end of the fight (and I only have 38k Pdef... lol, even boss in WA can 3 shot me :( ).

From what I've seen, except TOSH, ever since Grafu, every instance with 12 man option has a much larger difficulty difference between its easy mode and its normal mode compared with the difficulty difference in older instances.
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Saturday, August 24th 2013, 5:21am

This idea opens up the possibility of the earlier instances, such as HoDL, ZS, even HoTO possibly becoming viable to run, specifically if they have an Easy, Normal and Hard mode (Hard mode giving TP and mems from HoTO, anyone?). It's sad to step into HoTO and see the masses of mobs that have not seen a group in forever, I feel sorry for the fishies ;_;

Lately now it's a low level guildie and a level 80 guildie running those instances just to finish quests. :(
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