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Friday, September 13th 2013, 3:23am

I just don't know what to say.

Be patient, people we miss? Don't give up, GF will save us all eventually?

I want to say that and mean it, I really do. Bethomia was a disaster that hurt our guild fundamentally, this patch was the opportunity to recoup from that loss. I am fully aware that GF actually tested out this patch and that it was the best patch evar, and that no one expected this to happen, and that if a fix doesn't fix things, obviously, don't implement it.

I get that. I understand. I am not even angry at Gameforge. I feel like ThePit. I just want to curse in a never-ending stream.

US RoM has been in flux and at a crossroads for a long time. I've already watched one guild and one server die. I picked Reni because it was, and in some ways, still is, the healthiest US server. If I wasn't so indelibly addicted to this game, I would be gone myself. I completely understand why people don't want to log in.

That said, Raves, you still owe me a clear and a you-know-who. I am holding you to that. It was your idea. Disappear if you must, but deliver on your own boasts, I want to see it happen and I can wait a week if necessary.

What I am trying to say is, in some ways, Reni feels like Palenque did towards the end. And I know Palenque did better for a while after Bethomia came out, but that party's over, and they're hurting again. They don't have the population to support meaningful endgame. That's not why I left, but it is why Noto died. Reni is teetering on the edge of the same cliff. Bethomia enabled guilds that were marginal prior to the release of Beth to surge forward. But it was a false new spring. That kind of momentum, despite all those good people trying, most likely won't survive a much more difficult instance.

Reni needs Heretic, and Heretic needs it's people to log in. Reni is too awesome of a server to go under the dark. I don't say that to denigrate any of the other truly great guilds on Reni, or the people that play in them. But Heretic has the most people with instance-breaking experience, and that's experience the server can't afford to lose.

It just hurts immensely to watch a guild I have come to love struggle not because of drama, but because of bad decisions made by Runewaker. If this game has a downfall, it's Runewaker.

I feel like I'm rambling, and maybe not making any sense. It's just... iunno. The worst possible timing. How many Ravesden's can US RoM afford to lose? How many Kurtie's? How many Sully's? ;( How many Bobo's? We need every one of you. And all the ones I don't know, all the Jguys. All the RoMagics.


It's asking a lot to ask you all to stay and see this through; I bet it's even hard on Pinky, even though he's probably too proud to express it.


RoM- we need our people. You need them. Our servers need them. We can't afford to lose them. Work hard, work fast, fix us. Please.
nude pix speak louder than words fanny, guild attendance goes up exponentially with aforementioned item.




and yes you're rambling.
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Friday, September 13th 2013, 3:34am

I will only comment this far on "other" "companies" "hosting" RoM without deleting stuff: let their servers run for 4,5 years with the same amount of load and users the Frogster/Gameforge servers do. Then we'll talk again. Period.

I really should not post it on an official account but i'll tempt myself to do it anyway: "But their version of the game works fine, duh!!!1111" Yeah if i have a server with 50 users on it and don't give a damn about legal contracts at all and edit whatever i feel like to, every idiot can pull it off. It's a whole different story if you run the game legally and have 8million accounts+ on your databases. One word: SCALE.

And the official Russian RoM (which is not by the "company" that should not be named, but actually official!) has some different stuff that Gameforge RoM does not have, because they have different contracts with Runewaker. I believe Quannah has posted informations regarding to that in the past.

about the other game from our beloved developer Runewaker: guess where the dragons that where in Merdhin Tundra and HoS a while ago actually belong...
Want a game with half a graphic level of TERA on RoM's engine? really?

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 3:57am

about the other game from our beloved developer Runewaker: guess where the dragons that where in Merdhin Tundra and HoS a while ago actually belong...
Want a game with half a graphic level of TERA on RoM's engine? really?
Well see that's where I take issue with the handling of the contracts between gameforge and runewaker.

Runewaker REALLY seems to be treating this game like it's own playground for testing out ideas and models for their new game. That is straight up not cool. The fact that the official russian servers have varied content from other official contracts just shows how badly managed the source is. There are multiple instances of content currently in the game that runewaker seems to have abandoned.

Best patch yet doesn't say much when you consider how lowly runewaker sets that patch bar. It really seems like gameforge needs some better leverage in that contract
A real sysadmin knows how to change the time.
If you make the same mistake while trying to make up for the previous one, you are doing something wrong.

As much as I'd love to say I offer consulting services, the scope of things broken is too large.

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 4:34am

The comment was not on what Runewaker sets as bar on a patch, but what the experience and test results from QA on the test server came up with. It worked and only showed marginal issues, if at all - certainly not these crashes or lockouts. Which seems to be quite uncommon even on test. The harder everyone got hit with what happened as soon as the thing went live.

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 5:13am

neither companies "new venture" holds up to RoM.

Tera is nothing great, not the gameplay, not the endgame... nothing, Doesn't hold a candle to Rom

Dragon Prophet, same thing. Everything in it just comes up short.

RoM may have its problems but it is far superior as a game. RoM may have its issues, but every game does. Yes, this one has had a lot recently and I think that stems from both companies want for another "breakout hit" and I think that attention hasn't been put on RoM like it should have.

If we are gonna compare GF's other venture, and RW's other venture.... Neither of them are worth the time for me to download. Both try to make something "new", "revolutionary", or "unique" in their gameplay and what you get is a clunky, awkward, and unfun game to play. Some will say it is "fresh" and jump on the bandwagon, however at the end of the day... it is just wonky.

I just want Tera to fail, and then Dragon Prophet to fail so GF and RW can finally realize the real time that needs to be put back into RoM.

If I wanted to play a fail FPS attempt at an RPG.... there are a lot out there better managed.

46

Friday, September 13th 2013, 8:00am

^ (2 posts up) obviously someone who has no design verification experience

Whenever something goes wrong in a game suddenly everyone is the ultimate game design expert. especially pure troll post accounts ...

Troll on, fanboi

It is called a testbed. A single employee can simulate 100s if not 1000s of active users. Multiple employees would even be better.

Look it up, before you continue to display your ignorance of design and design verification, as well as your ignorance of RoM's player base

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 9:03am

^ (2 posts up) obviously someone who has no design verification experience

Whenever something goes wrong in a game suddenly everyone is the ultimate game design expert. especially pure troll post accounts ...

Troll on, fanboi

It is called a testbed. A single employee can simulate 100s if not 1000s of active users. Multiple employees would even be better.

Look it up, before you continue to display your ignorance of design and design verification, as well as your ignorance of RoM's player base


You surely have me mistaken for pinkhat. I certainly am not a GF fanboi. (I even doubt he is, he is just not as outright negative about everything like 99% of the forum are)
I have more trollposts rants and flameposts vs Runewakers genius ideas posted on this account either here or on RoM DE than you even have posts dude.

Here, just for you Mr-Perfect-Know-it-all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8hvyjZWHs

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 9:06am

^ (2 posts up) obviously someone who has no design verification experience

Whenever something goes wrong in a game suddenly everyone is the ultimate game design expert. especially pure troll post accounts ...

Troll on, fanboi

It is called a testbed. A single employee can simulate 100s if not 1000s of active users. Multiple employees would even be better.

Look it up, before you continue to display your ignorance of design and design verification, as well as your ignorance of RoM's player base


You surely have me mistaken for pinkhat. I certainly am not a GF fanboi. (I even doubt he is, he is just not as outright negative about everything like 99% of the forum are)
I have more trollposts rants and flameposts vs Runewakers genius ideas posted on this account either here or on RoM DE than you even have posts dude.

Here, just for you Mr-Perfect-Know-it-all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8hvyjZWHs

Continue to troll on.

Come back at me when you have 2+ decades of design verification experiernce on top of a post-graduate degree.

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 10:17am

^ (2 posts up) obviously someone who has no design verification experience

Whenever something goes wrong in a game suddenly everyone is the ultimate game design expert. especially pure troll post accounts ...

Troll on, fanboi

It is called a testbed. A single employee can simulate 100s if not 1000s of active users. Multiple employees would even be better.

Look it up, before you continue to display your ignorance of design and design verification, as well as your ignorance of RoM's player base


You surely have me mistaken for pinkhat. I certainly am not a GF fanboi. (I even doubt he is, he is just not as outright negative about everything like 99% of the forum are)
I have more trollposts rants and flameposts vs Runewakers genius ideas posted on this account either here or on RoM DE than you even have posts dude.

Here, just for you Mr-Perfect-Know-it-all:
^ (2 posts up) obviously someone who has no design verification experience

Whenever something goes wrong in a game suddenly everyone is the ultimate game design expert. especially pure troll post accounts ...

Troll on, fanboi

It is called a testbed. A single employee can simulate 100s if not 1000s of active users. Multiple employees would even be better.

Look it up, before you continue to display your ignorance of design and design verification, as well as your ignorance of RoM's player base


You surely have me mistaken for pinkhat. I certainly am not a GF fanboi. (I even doubt he is, he is just not as outright negative about everything like 99% of the forum are)
I have more trollposts rants and flameposts vs Runewakers genius ideas posted on this account either here or on RoM DE than you even have posts dude.

Here, just for you Mr-Perfect-Know-it-all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8hvyjZWHs
Continue to troll on.

Come back at me when you have 2+ decades of design verification experiernce on top of a post-graduate degree.
20 years of inspecting barbie for a penis, grats bro, someday that napkin degree will get your foot in the door. Til then use others work to hack a game and claim it as your own, im sure romeo is shaking in his boots, hope your not as bad at quality assurance as you are at champ or w/m or w/e garbage it is that got scooped like lacrosse balls in sw.

not that i defend rw, they just dont care, its obvious to anyone with half a brain they have maybe 1 employee on programming left on this.



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Friday, September 13th 2013, 1:41pm

Girls, stop fighting... without mud... :doofy:

@SaitoHajime - player base actually seems a bit bigger then on USA server. I see people in all zones, Varenas bridge is always crowded and content gets cleared. Just check server subforum, didn't someone post recently that there are 30 users on his server, 7 of them are his accounts.

Russian server are hosted by Frogstrer's friend company, GF just continued recognition. IS is different, SW is better and many things from RoM are fixed, but not by GF, but their DB admins. :thumbup:

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 2:06pm

To mah peeps: You can log back in now, Garda got back on.

Zone closed, instance closed.

In the meantime, get back on and I'll plevel all of us to 82 while it's closed. (I mean Heretic, don't spam whisper me Reni! Guild first!) That means you, Kurtie, Elvie, Sully, Bii- all of you. Let's do this. We have an instance to clear.
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Friday, September 13th 2013, 2:14pm

To mah peeps: You can log back in now, Garda got back on.

Zone closed, instance closed.

In the meantime, get back on and I'll plevel all of us to 82 while it's closed. (I mean Heretic, don't spam whisper me Reni! Guild first!) That means you, Kurtie, Elvie, Sully, Bii- all of you. Let's do this. We have an instance to clear.


How do you plevel high level players?

Gratz on L82. Faster then Mrs. pink hat, I assume... :) (he got lame excuse that his main has been locked :))

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 2:46pm

To mah peeps: You can log back in now, Garda got back on.

Zone closed, instance closed.

In the meantime, get back on and I'll plevel all of us to 82 while it's closed. (I mean Heretic, don't spam whisper me Reni! Guild first!) That means you, Kurtie, Elvie, Sully, Bii- all of you. Let's do this. We have an instance to clear.
its perfect, can you imagine the whine if i tried to tanking on my warden instead of k/w, ive already misplaced my sword so barring some pro wws macros that go off of 2h dmg under 12 man lag, i can hold aggro with trash gear on warden np and soak up the no 40% debuff crying like photosynthesis or some shit. just the thought of sadakkos tears when he finds out his tank is warden......fucking delicious


I came, bring on the tosh bugs.
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Friday, September 13th 2013, 2:55pm

Imma bother you while ur plvling ur guild and try to get you all killed >:D

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 3:07pm

I can login now, just want to say thank you very much for finding the solution to help people even if its just temp.

Best wishes,
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Friday, September 13th 2013, 5:01pm

To mah peeps: You can log back in now, Garda got back on.

Zone closed, instance closed.

In the meantime, get back on and I'll plevel all of us to 82 while it's closed. (I mean Heretic, don't spam whisper me Reni! Guild first!) That means you, Kurtie, Elvie, Sully, Bii- all of you. Let's do this. We have an instance to clear.


How do you plevel high level players?

Gratz on L82. Faster then Mrs. pink hat, I assume... :) (he got lame excuse that his main has been locked :))


Pshaw! I was L82 on Tuesday (and no, I did not spam daily tickets). I even got one of my alts to 82. Still, I would expect and hope that Fann got there first. She is, after all, world-famous (or at least ROM-famous) Fann.

Confirmation that whatever method they used to restore locked toons has worked. Even though it still had blank "current location" on login screen, when I logged in, it put me in Syrbal Pass, exact same location as I was when I got locked out. Thanks, GF, while it took an extra day to workaround-fix it, I am happy to be able to get back on main.
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Friday, September 13th 2013, 5:10pm



Pshaw! I was L82 on Tuesday (and no, I did not spam daily tickets). I even got one of my alts to 82. Still, I would expect and hope that Fann got there first. She is, after all, world-famous (or at least ROM-famous) Fann.

Confirmation that whatever method they used to restore locked toons has worked. Even though it still had blank "current location" on login screen, when I logged in, it put me in Syrbal Pass, exact same location as I was when I got locked out. Thanks, GF, while it took an extra day to workaround-fix it, I am happy to be able to get back on main.



Yes, we all hope Fann is pleveling or self leveling... we all know that means less reading for rest of server population... :D

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 5:30pm

Palenque has no problems fann ;) bet you still wish you were on reni huh ;) lol jk.
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Friday, September 13th 2013, 6:17pm

I can verify that my toon is back in after being locked out since release. ty for the temporary fix

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Friday, September 13th 2013, 8:00pm

I can also get in. The 'location' at the top showed blank, but upon character select it asked me if I wanted to go to Pioneer's Colony.

Still no excuse that something went wrong and it should be looked into to make sure it does not happen again.