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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 6:20pm

GM's fixin quests!

Woot, woot! We tis gonner haver some GMs online! There do be a hope fer this Administration yet! This be so excitin!

Only two things maketh me sad bout this. Me no hast any broken quests atm, an they shoulda had more forewarnin fer those ppl who hast a busy schedule. But still...



Woot! Woot!

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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 6:39pm

I dont actuall think they're fixing them, I think its whoever needs these quests come to the quest giver so we can complete it for you ordeal.
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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 6:46pm

Quest Un-Stuckers :)

At least they're coming on to the servers to help ppl move past bugged quests.

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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 7:17pm

Which figures... because i cant get into game..
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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 7:32pm

You could try putting in a ticket now to have those quests un-stucked when you get back on...

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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 8:58pm

Its official, GM's coming online to help ppl get pass broken quests. gf isnt just hotair anymore with shallow promises. :)

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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 10:07pm

wait, we have GM's now? when'd that happen?
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 10:51pm

I don't have any broken quests, but I *am* happy to see this happening.

However, as I am a negative nelly by nature, I see several problems:

A. It's only going to be for a very short time so anyone who doesn't happen to be here on a Saturday afternoon is going to be SOL.
B. What happens when you auto-complete one of the first broken quests then half an hour later they come to the other quests that are bugged but... oops you've moved to a different server or are done altogether.

Overall I really think it'd just be easier to write the quests in to Autocomplete all the ones that are known as broken. This way no matter when someone gets to them they just autocomplete and they can be on their merry way. I know it can be done... it's been done before.
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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 11:09pm

and, if u have noticed, they not completing hackman or bedim quests...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 11:35pm

to add to the negative ninny statement from Borella. Its interesting they decided to do this just a couple days before the pit conference. its been an issue for months and now it gets looked at? interesting timing to say the least.

No guarantee that it will occur again anytime soon so I hope everyone who needs it gets it asap !

I do applaud the effort though and hope its a REGULAR THING ! not just a one time deal.

and if you really want to convince me that things are changing all you have to do is announce the firing of the folks that run the item shop. as well as the hiring of folks that actually listen to the customer base

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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 11:41pm

Ack! It's over already on Govinda...

Hurried home for nuthin! :dash:

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Thursday, September 19th 2013, 11:42pm

They just left Govinda. Thank you for taking the time to do this for the players. I'm sure it will help a great many players progress towards level cap again.

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Friday, September 20th 2013, 1:43am

Just wanted to say TY guys for coming to Reni to help w/ quests! :D

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Friday, September 20th 2013, 4:23am

Just want to say ty for banning me so i couldnt hae the oppurunity to finish ym broken quests! lol
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Friday, September 20th 2013, 1:51pm

A big thankee fer comin on the servers an aidin the players! Well done!

Nice job on the ban plot fer Gigi as well, tis good ter see him bellyachin.

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Friday, September 20th 2013, 2:45pm

TYVM from all of RENIANS!!!!!! much appreciated for the quests thing tyvm

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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 7:41am

For those that missed us on Thursday i'd like to refer to the addition to the original announcement, posted by Mika: Quest Repairs US Servers - Thursday 09/19/2013

The original german post of Mikas linked post above is from Kiareko, the person whio actually fixed your quests on the server. She works for Support.
I don't. I'm just the one who volunteered to help her on the server and filtered all the incoming requests and sorted the stuff, that's why you were talking to me most of the time.

I'm pointing out the line above in bold on purpose for all the non-believers with the "support doesn't help anyone anyway" attitude who are more or less guaranteed to show up in a thread like this. It saves me the time of having to write it later anyway :ninja:

This is going to be a bit longer post from me (SaitoHajime) about what we did on Thursday and about the feeback to it from this thread and elsewhere be it before or after the event. Just did not have any time before to comment on some of the stuff mentioned here.

So, let's get started.


a) "we hope to repeat it soon". This was just the first time that this was done on US and the other non-de communites. The Germans gave it a try a week or something ago with actually answering questions rather than fixing quests. It is all work in progress, and getting GMs and/or Support employees isn't done out of nowhere and takes time. Mika's information of "soon" still stands obviously, unless you get to hear otherwise ;-)

b) you missed us while we were on live? file a ticket, support will help with those known-broken and/or problematic quests. The more info you have the better, see the linked post above.

I might add: Fixing a Quest like "Acceptance brings Opportunity", even live, is like the icing on the cake. The quest does work perfectly, but we know how many users missed the chance of ever completing it due to the (working as originally intended, but still a bit unusual) condition of having to pretty much instantly visit Daris as soon you get the notice that she has business with you. Yet we fixed it on live and Support will fix it too if you file a ticket for it.

What Support still won't do via ticket when it comes to quests is pretty much the same like yesterday on live:

Hackman (Blood Debt) and Bedim (Reward: Garmel, but also the instancequests) , unavailable titlequests due to actively disabled targets in general. These are global issues and need a global fix by Runewaker and/or a global workaround - the quests itself are working fine, just their targets are unavailable due the known problems. You're free to demand that these should happen in a more timely manner, but it is still rather pointless to complete those via individual tickets since support would simply get buried in tickets requesting nothing besides these 2 things. Once these would be started to be completed via ticket you can expect medium/high four-digit amounts of tickets just about these.

[Had added more here in this bracket but i rather re-check it with Kiareko and may or may not update later- consider some space in this bracket reserved for now]

Still i would rather recommend the forums if you just have questions about quests since you get way more exposure here and info's from people who actually completed the quests manually on their (sometimes even multiple) playthroughs. And we even have our walking quest-database here on the forums, called "Yrcanos", also posting in green. ;)

[To make this serious post a bit funnier: I was so busy with helping even earlier on the DE servers that I didn't even manage to login one of my own private toons - I don't even have that Daris quest myself ;)]


About time and timing:

This timing is not coincidal at all just because of the US meeting happening. It has been already or atleast will be done, on ALL RoM Communites. DE+US on Thursday, and i believe they did some of the others today if I'm not totally mistaken here. Nothing like this was done prior to the German meeting either way, and the DE Community is at least as vocal as you guys, and they are way bigger in numbers. There is nothing to interpret into it like a strategy of "they are just trying to up the mood right before the meeting".

The actual TIME is a different issue. First about the actual time ONLINE on the server:
We currently have to stay up really late to do it as it is now. We started at around 11pm DE time (with the US servers, we were on all DE just before that) and it took us until 3:30 am (which is 14:00-18:30 Pacific and 17:00-21:30 East)- and we could probably have spent more time on some of the servers and still not helped everyone, or we'd do it in the actual business hours of the current support people aka typical 9to5 but german time, which is even worse for US users as this is somewhere between midnight to 8am pacific/3am to 11am east. Hitting an 8pm spot on the US servers with all 4 timezones in mind is pretty much impossible, so it will always be too late/too early for some users.

About the time between the announcement and our actual appearing on the live servers:
Originally it was scheduled for Friday but due to other reasons we moved it forward and did it on Thursday on a rather short notice.
Advantage: We rescheduled it into the late german night instead of Friday german daytime.
Disadvantage: Not 1day+ between the announcement and the start. It was ~11h though.

If we're going to do it again, this can be improved ;-)

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Final Notes: All praise goes to Kiareko who worked her GM butt off for you (and the other countries) and fixed the quests for almost 15h straight. We departed from Artemis at around 03:30am german time on Friday morning. ;)

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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 2:23pm

Still i would rather recommend the forums if you just have questions about quests since you get way more exposure here and info's from people who actually completed the quests manually on their (sometimes even multiple) playthroughs.

Check my signature. I have played through most quests several times and can almost always supply solutions when people get stuck. In fact, I was surprised that you guys were "fixing" some of the listed quests since they weren't even broken and the only reason they were considered broken was because people hadn't read the previous quests properly. Reading is massively important in any MMO yet a lot of the time we just click the button to accept the quest and see what we have to kill/gather and then go hand it in without reading too.
"Acceptance Brings Opportunity" is a prime example of not reading quests & I believe many of us must have learned a valuable lesson there...?


Quoted from "SaitoHajime"

And we even have our walking quest-database here on the forums, called "Yrcanos", also posting in green.
Yrcanos? That slacker gets all his info from either Runesdatabase or me! :D


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All praise goes to Kiareko who worked her GM butt off for you (and the other countries) and fixed the quests for almost 15h straight.

Indeed, well done to her & big thanks for all her efforts!
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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 2:35pm

Still i would rather recommend the forums if you just have questions about quests since you get way more exposure here and info's from people who actually completed the quests manually on their (sometimes even multiple) playthroughs.

"Acceptance Brings Opportunity" is a prime example of not reading quests & I believe many of us must have learned a valuable lesson there...?


Nope. Nobody still reads quests. Way too much time to waste. Easier to just say meh it's a title who cares. Better than taking a year and a half to hit level cap cause you read every quest. And 99.9% of them there's zero reason to and they're extremely uninteresting.
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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 2:48pm

Pshaw. Of course, I read quests. Reading is not that hard. People should try it sometimes.

Now, if RW stop programming the quest areas like that one in Sarlo south of Fang compound, where there is a big long cut-scene conversation with major NPCs, but they put it in area that keeps spawning mobs, so you have to focus on combat instead of reading what they said, I'd be happier.
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