Runes of Magic US / AU

Technically, you do get lower drop rate, because you are still questing where your non-bonus XP questline is. So, while you might be L70 due to bonus XP, your questline is still in L65 zone.

But so what? You know what you also get when you quest as L70 in L65 zone? You get access to better gear. You get easier time questing. You hit for more and you get hit for less, so that nasty grafu guardian that is owning player next to you is hitting you for a lot less, and taking damage from you a lot more. Instead of creeping around and carefully picking your battles, you walk freely. Mobs don't aggro on you quite so much, and if they do, they go down faster.

Barely noticeable disadvantage vs a clear advantage? I'll take it.

absolutely great math to hit exactly what I have been saying. it is also great to add if you use the bonus on your secondary side you usually have enough tps for the skills that carry over to the main class, it also lets you get those second classes up fast for elite skills. Then you just keep doing your dailies every day for tps...... so the TPs that you think that you lost can easily be made up by doing the best dailies in the game, if not more.


Yes I know the argument is "why not do both"... but if you wanna make that point why don't you make that your point... instead of a fallacy of "my character will be gimped" which keeps getting proved wrong.

Actually, the only argument that makes sense has not been presented. And that is, the TP that you "missed out on" in the end, as a factor of total TP, will probably be not that significant. I put "missed out on" in quotes because, well, we all know there was no TP missed, it is just the apparent TP missed when compared to the base ratio of exp/tp.

I took my Champ from level 58 to 60 this weekend, with the bonus XP event he earned roughly 60% less TP than he would have any other weekend if I had done the same leveling 58 to 60. That chunk of missing tp will follow him around for the rest of his life...because chances are he will never hit level cap. Thankfully, when he is level 95, he probably will not miss what will then be a small percentage of his overall tp.

By the way, who continues to quest after reaching level cap? Get real, you will need those quests when they raise the next cap.

Quoted from "Auros"

By the way, who continues to quest after reaching level cap? Get real, you will need those quests when they raise the next cap.

i did.... need that TP xD

Quoted from "CammoXD"

Quoted from "Auros"

By the way, who continues to quest after reaching level cap? Get real, you will need those quests when they raise the next cap.

i did.... need that TP xD

There are plenty of bushes around...use some leaves..sheesh.

Ahh, the perennial lack of TP....Cannot get enough, which is why, I think, people want the bonus TP along with the bonus EXP. When my Champ example above hit 60 he was able to raise one main skill from 59 to 60, one..at which point you tend to say F it. See gentlemen, it is a perception thing, total TP may be unchanged, but our perception of it is as if it was getting smaller and smaller.

For those math addicts and those who believe that TP should not be part of bonus weekend on quests - what do you gain/loose adding TP??

GameForge looses, as they would be able to sell DRT to end gamers that are after those TP to level their skills on main/secondary or even third class. (just ask Borela how many DRP he would get if TP was part of the deal )

XP/TP is very unbalanced, especially in L50-L69 area. There is enough XP for single class, and IMHO double/triple weekends are just not often enough. It was like every other weekend in times of Frogster NA.

Game forge would make more money selling DRT, users would be more happy... you would be able to try that X/Y class combo without spending 6 months to level one class.

ps. Just to make sure, yes, math is correct, you get faster to higher level dailies, with not enough TP to level all needed skills. For old player that is not biggy, but new player who levels on that weekend most likely will not learn much about how to properly play his class combo as it should play if he does not miss 2/3 of TP. Note, this is not small difference, but 2/3 or more. In short, your toon, already TP handicapped without year/two of daily farms will just become more handicapped. Not so sure how you are not seeing that as problem, but we all wonder why cap level toons in SW have problems applying their skills...

hey now, not all of us that are level capped on all classes are skill-less lol

My mage has just under 400m tp now.....but i don't prioritize mage as much as warrior or rogue anymore so I used the xp bonus to level it. The issue is even with 400m TP I still need (or want...idk) more TP to at least level more than 1 skill per level....I have about 6 skills that were previously 80 that I can't level at all now

XP and TP bonus should be on quests....just makes it a lot easier for people to level, especially with broken quest lines and what not.

Not to be a jerk here but are people confusing wants and needs? It is not necessary to have skills maxed, it is desirable. I know healers who don't have maxed healing skills, instead they decide to max their debuff skills. I myself have a lot of skills not maxed, that if I magically had 400m additional tp I would max everything right now. Is not having them maxed preventing me from doing anything in the game? Not at all. Maxing all your skills is a want, not a need.

With that said, ofc people can want to have something. Ofc they can ask/request/nag/pester for it to come into being. But that alone won't really cause it to happen. Wanting something to happen does not mean it "should" happen -- Hitler wanted all the jews dead for an extreme example.

RomMage pointed out that some players would spend dias on daily quest tickets just for TP bonus, should there be tp bonus on quests. Arguements like these should be the reasons why tp bonus "should" be implemented. We can all say we want more tp, but gameforge could simply respond "go kill more monsters then to get that tp", so there needs to be more then just personal desire in the equation. I'd like to point out that egg rice and hot stew aren't handed out anymore, so things that unbalance the game (the reason they won't hand said items out anymore) will be removed or at least they will attempt to prevent them. I already stated mathematically that bonus tp on ALL quests leads to unbalanced tp for no additional effort/cost to the player. Players who ahve been playing for years and years SHOULD have more tp then those who are not -- toons that were created and levelled on a bonus tp weekend should NOT have more tp/higher level secondaries (with "proper" amounts of tp) then toons that were created on the following monday. Its not fair/balanced.

So with this said, yes I do think it would be "nice" to get tp on quests, but I don't think its fair/balanced, nor do I think its a good idea. However, financial motivations could change GameForge's ways of thinking, so perhaps that should be the route players take to convince them, rather then the "can i haz moer tpz cuz im too lazy to do all my kwests puleeze?" arguements.


side note: who quests when they reach level cap? I know a w/r who's doing that right now as a matter of fact. He only had 150m~ tp and now he's bordering 190m tp iirc. I'm considering doing it on my champion. I level him on bonus exp day, and he's lvl 80 with 111m tp. Questing should fix that up quite neatly I believe. It will also give me something to do while sitting around waiting for something to do.

Quoted from "karmakarma"

hey now, not all of us that are level capped on all classes are skill-less lol

I know, not everyone is Mr. Pink Hat... :p

To be honest, I have toons of TP on my character, but still many skills that are underused because hitting L80 toon with skill that is 55 does not do much damage. The same folks that tell you don't need TP to play will also tell learn to play your class.... but person that levels fast without being able to fully get skills to the lavel will do fine with 5-10 levels lower mobs, but once the same person enters an instance with elites and mobs it will be like hitting hard wall. Not just instance, but @ level mobs.

Interestingly, all folks that are against extra TP looks like the same one that are against rushing toward level cap when someone new shows... We all know how level rush folks end in RoM....

see this is a complete misconception... None of us are "against extra tp"... if you believe that still after everything everyone has posted... I am truly sorry for you.

It is not that we are "against extra tp" it is that we think that the lack of tp on an exp event is not character ending. There is a big difference there. How someone can take comments like "no having less tps don't ruin your character" and turn it into "against extra tp". NO!

What me and a few others are saying is this (now please read slowly and don't jump to conclusions, take what I type exactly how I type it, there is no hidden message here): It would be nice if there were TP bonus on these events, however it is not 1) character destroying, 2) a bad thing, or 3) something we believe is worth complaining about.

You can succeed just fine with lower TPs. I use double exp events all the time across multiple characters and have not run into an issue yet, The tp cost for a skill to go from 70-80, vs the DPS increase (at least for some classes) is not that needed. It helps, but doesn't make you unable to kill mobs, or not be able to compete in instances.

Not showing up for me...just Dagger Skeleton Mount...

Anyone recall the official start time of the sale? I can't remember when normal daily sales start, but it is late/non-existant.

Posted to start 5pm Pacific.... nothing yet tho.
Color me utterly disappointed.