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Thursday, September 26th 2013, 5:57pm
And bringing the range down from 150, to even 130 or 100, wont honestly change much, you keep your damage and you still got a ranged attack.
Thursday, September 26th 2013, 6:20pm
You say fix scouts, they fix scouts and rogues will start to complain. Plus, I don't see RW fixing scouts anytime soon, so I just say bring t/ct down a notch, UNTIL they decide to fix scouts. Once scouts are fixed they could easily bring it back up to 150, heck even 180 if scouts are fixed.
Thursday, September 26th 2013, 6:23pm
If I remember right, there were quite a few rogues in that p/s thread, complaining, b/c theyd get one shot if they were caught out of hide, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's called complaining.You say fix scouts, they fix scouts and rogues will start to complain. Plus, I don't see RW fixing scouts anytime soon, so I just say bring t/ct down a notch, UNTIL they decide to fix scouts. Once scouts are fixed they could easily bring it back up to 150, heck even 180 if scouts are fixed.
Through my experiences in rom, rogues have never complained about anything. Its alwasy been those pesky mages...And no, thats insane. Instead of breaking one class, fixing another, and then fixing the first...why not just fix the one thats broken? seems pretty roundabout.
Thursday, September 26th 2013, 6:26pm
If I remember right, there were quite a few rogues in that p/s thread, complaining, b/c theyd get one shot if they were caught out of hide, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's called complaining.You say fix scouts, they fix scouts and rogues will start to complain. Plus, I don't see RW fixing scouts anytime soon, so I just say bring t/ct down a notch, UNTIL they decide to fix scouts. Once scouts are fixed they could easily bring it back up to 150, heck even 180 if scouts are fixed.
Through my experiences in rom, rogues have never complained about anything. Its alwasy been those pesky mages...And no, thats insane. Instead of breaking one class, fixing another, and then fixing the first...why not just fix the one thats broken? seems pretty roundabout.
Thursday, September 26th 2013, 6:29pm
It was just a suggestion, b/c you cant seem to be happy with jsut bringing down the range of c/ct, so im trying to reason with you, but apparently that doesnt work either. You suggest this this is a scout problem. I think its a rogue problem, alogn with a scout problem, yes scouts need revamped, after that nerf, but i also think the range of t/ct could use a tad nerf.If I remember right, there were quite a few rogues in that p/s thread, complaining, b/c theyd get one shot if they were caught out of hide, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's called complaining.You say fix scouts, they fix scouts and rogues will start to complain. Plus, I don't see RW fixing scouts anytime soon, so I just say bring t/ct down a notch, UNTIL they decide to fix scouts. Once scouts are fixed they could easily bring it back up to 150, heck even 180 if scouts are fixed.
Through my experiences in rom, rogues have never complained about anything. Its alwasy been those pesky mages...And no, thats insane. Instead of breaking one class, fixing another, and then fixing the first...why not just fix the one thats broken? seems pretty roundabout.
I just want to be clear though. You did just suggest BREAKING rogues until scouts were fixed, fixing scouts, and then refixing rogues? Really?
Thursday, September 26th 2013, 7:32pm
lol @ can't function w/o throw....lrn2kite...we scouts have been doing it for years....yes, it will take longer to kill, but you won't die, which is kinda the whole point of kiting....u want the capabilities of a ranged class, then start acting like a ranged class...be creative people...I play a scout and in PvP, the first thing I do after I use my range stun is run into melee range so I can CC the heck out of them...use a little imagination...
Thursday, September 26th 2013, 7:47pm
you say that, yet before t/ct were even buffed up NO ROGUE SAID THIS EVER. NO ROGUE EVEN USED THEM so stfu, that argument is invalid. You want to retire, go for it, but nerfing the range down to 130 or 100 wont hurt the class at all. for pve or pvp. NO point to get butthurt abotu the thread and say nerf all other classes.a tad nerf LOL.
ok lets nerf mages and warriors and wardens a tad also. while were at it lets nerf knights and preist so they cant tank/heal. when does this shat end? when nobody can run anything worth running I guess.... then they will all want buffs.
Not every aoe works like rt bolgus aka jump back after hitting your all making this shat sound so simple when its not. How bout hard hitting range mobs or posion mobs that suck hp away ridiculously if I have to melee it rather than range throw? Guaranteed anyone whos complaining about rogues T/CT range isn't a rogue and doesn't have a freaking clue about how vital it is for pve.
I DONT CARE ABOUT PVP .
Without T/CT (ranged) ya might as well retire your rogue except for party runs as ya pretty much wont be able to do much of anything useful yourself. And even in party runs ya might as well except the fact that your pretty much only gonna be main dps on bosses and not all that useful on mobs since mages and tankish types will pretty much get the mobs b4 ya even have chance to melee them.
And you're suggesting other classes HAVE to use seige weapons to see them, b/c we all know scouts cant see them in time before they're dead. What seige weapons do rogues have to use to kill any other class? none. So that's fair how? That argument is also invalid.Theres no reason to nerf throw other than sw. You only want it nerefed in sw because you cant see rogues before they kill you. You can if you use an eye though. An eye of true knowledge has twice the range of throw. Detection should have the same range of an eye. Buff scouts. Scouts find rogues. Rogues die to scouts, mages die to rogues, mages kill scouts. Balance.
Lets see what happens if you nerf throw range without buffing scouts: No one plays a scout in sw because they are gimped in pve. Rogues still sneak up behind you and stab you in the back. You die. You ask for more nerfs. They nerf rogues again. Rogues become the next scout. Everyone rolls mage or champion. Repeat process until there is only one class worth playing and everyone plays it.
Thursday, September 26th 2013, 7:55pm
Which btw sp works at the same range detect does, by the time you can see a rogue its kill or be stunned. Usually the rogue wins b/c 98.7% of rogues use diycedid I ever claim that kiting is a fast way to kill things? no....if any1 here has played a scout, you know that kiting makes our DPS drop to almost nothing....if I just stood there and attacked, I get at least 3x the DPS I do kiting....is that smart? no, cuz im usually dead by then...and the only ranged stun scouts get is a s/d elite...at least ALL rogues get SP....
lol Technically I prefer to be called gg or gigi, gigilomann works too, ive also been called xxx, among other names, But i suppose hypocrite works too. And I'm not sensitive, you wantto nerf priests? im all for it, make the class more challenging, but ills till heal better than you, and all your healer friendsROFL notice how sensitive he gets when I suggest nerfing other stuff!!!! Hello hypocrite!!
Thursday, September 26th 2013, 7:56pm
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And you're suggesting other classes HAVE to use seige weapons to see them, b/c we all know scouts cant see them in time before they're dead. What seige weapons do rogues have to use to kill any other class? none. So that's fair how? That argument is also invalid.Theres no reason to nerf throw other than sw. You only want it nerefed in sw because you cant see rogues before they kill you. You can if you use an eye though. An eye of true knowledge has twice the range of throw. Detection should have the same range of an eye. Buff scouts. Scouts find rogues. Rogues die to scouts, mages die to rogues, mages kill scouts. Balance.
Lets see what happens if you nerf throw range without buffing scouts: No one plays a scout in sw because they are gimped in pve. Rogues still sneak up behind you and stab you in the back. You die. You ask for more nerfs. They nerf rogues again. Rogues become the next scout. Everyone rolls mage or champion. Repeat process until there is only one class worth playing and everyone plays it.
I'm not asking for nerfs for damage idc if i die to a low blow it happens al the time, or eventhrow/combo throw after the range is reducted.
Thursday, September 26th 2013, 8:07pm
ROFL notice how sensitive he gets when I suggest nerfing other stuff!!!! Hello hypocrite!!
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