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Thursday, October 10th 2013, 6:51am

Level 90 Plussing Jewels

Are they supposed to be this terrible? They're barely better than vendor jewels, they have about a 60% fail rate. I'm not buying any more until they change this.
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Thursday, October 10th 2013, 7:24am

I've only used them once to get an item to +12, and I had 3 failures on the way to +5 (used perfect for +6), and no failures from +6 to +12.

Although one thing I noticed about when a computer generates fail/success rates is that the fails and successes tend to clump together once in awhile.

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The computer would randomly generate a number between 0 and 4. Certain numbers were assigned either "fail" or "success" in order to manipulate the fail rate. Each time the program is ran, either "fail" or "success" would be displayed.

After running the program a few dozen times, I noticed that when the success rate was set as 75% (3 of the generated 4 digits were assigned "success"), there'd be 1 fail in between 2 or 3 successes, and occasionally a streak of 3-5 successes. But when the success rate was lowered to 50%, there'd be clumps of 3-5 fails and successes in between rotations of 1-2 success/failures
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Thursday, October 10th 2013, 7:59am

They're clumping together a lot more than they used to, which is making them awful. I'm getting success, fail, success, fail, etc.
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Thursday, October 10th 2013, 5:23pm

I usually dont hae many problems with plussing jewels, not many fails, havent tried the new 90 jewels yet, no gold to get any when theyre on sale =\
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Thursday, October 10th 2013, 5:24pm

Meh....they are behaving as badly as they ever have...
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Thursday, October 10th 2013, 5:26pm

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Meh....they are behaving as badly as they ever have...
Pretty much this..

People seem to expect a less fail rate with new jewels, but it's the same formula as it ever was.
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Thursday, October 10th 2013, 8:24pm

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They're clumping together a lot more than they used to, which is making them awful. I'm getting success, fail, success, fail, etc.
That sounds better than Faith jewels lol. For me, Faith jewels was more like Success, fail, fail, fail, success, fail fail...
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Thursday, October 10th 2013, 10:37pm

This is my general impression (no facts involved), if Runewaker used dice (random number generator)
+1 guaranteed
+2/+3 D6, 1-4 pass, 5 fail, 6 drop
+4 D6, 1-3 pass, 4 fail, 5-6 drop
+5 D6, 1-2 pass, 3-4 fail, 5-6 drop
+6 D6, 1 pass, 2-3 fail, 4-6 drop
+7 Guaranteed
+8/9 1-4 pass, 5 fail, 6 drop
+10/11/12 1-3 pass, 4 fail, 5-6 drop
+13 Guaranteed
+14/15 1-4 pass, 5 fail, 6 drop
+16 1-3 pass, 4 fail, 5-6 drop
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Friday, October 11th 2013, 12:37am

I've just +ed a piece of gear from 0 to +16. I used 0 perfects and got 0 fails all the way to +16. Was kind of weird tho I was expecting to use 1 perfect on +6 but it didn't fail so I just went up all the way with using only normals.

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Friday, October 11th 2013, 3:23am

^ I call hacks D:< but if you got it to +16 it obviously wasn't with all 90 jewels, since they haven't put the +16 jewels on sale yet.
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Friday, October 11th 2013, 9:23pm

I wouldn't believe anything that comes out of his mouth anyways.
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