Runes of Magic US / AU

really? diamonds are the most inflated thing on palenque.. not stats.. dias lol

Weird right

I also would like to protest the price of dex and patt monster cards, the price of high level light pet eggs, and the price of Little Devil wings that is not being discounted nearly enough on the account of them being butt-ugly.

But since I sell them, I would like to applaud the price of much overvalued 10k XP orbs and 1k TP orbs. Keep those up, folks. Oh, and buy my food, will ya? My alt slaved over hot stove for hours to cook it for you, least you can do is pay a little for his work.

yes, stats are super duper crazy high at the moment, or for atleast the last past two months, especially mage stats

crazy people selling shell stats for outrageously high, like wtffff

so what you can do is sell your stats outrageously high so that you can buy those outrageously high priced diamonds, evens out in some sort of ways..

also there are tons of ways to make free gold in this game, just takes " hard work, dedication" aka money mayweather

Another option is to keep selling at a lower price. When yours sells and theirs don't, after a while they'll have no choice but to lower the prices if they want to sell anything. This has to be done by a fairly decent sized group though for it to work.

Quoted from "Ziav"

Another option is to keep selling at a lower price. When yours sells and theirs don't, after a while they'll have no choice but to lower the prices if they want to sell anything. This has to be done by a fairly decent sized group though for it to work.

Yeah, do that. I can make decent amount of profit on resale of stuff like that. :p

Quoted from "vfwiffo"

Quoted from "Ziav"

Another option is to keep selling at a lower price. When yours sells and theirs don't, after a while they'll have no choice but to lower the prices if they want to sell anything. This has to be done by a fairly decent sized group though for it to work.

Yeah, do that. I can make decent amount of profit on resale of stuff like that. :p

Whih is what quite a few people do on palenque with dias. buy the cheap ones who are trying to undercut them and resell them higher.

Buying low selling high is what people do. The problem is people who buy low sell high can do it with any prices but they still get same profit. Like on palenque right now people buy dias for 240k each and sell for 260k each but they could still get same profit if they bought for 40k and sold for 60k. So it only harms people who want to buy dias as now they have to pay 260k for them instead of 60k. It's all good for people who sell dias tho. Getting 240mill gold for just 1k dias who wouldn't like that? But with prices as they are right now 1bill gold is pretty much the same as 100mill was before. So it would take some server agreement at what MAX price dias should be sold or something like that to balance things out.

narix, that's rich coming form you LOL


also, @ refering to AH:
i normally only use AH for items i have not sold before, and thus have NO FRIKKIN CLUE what the price is...and when i do, i normally bump it down to 75% of the AH price when i sell it...

There is almost no stats on sale on Govinda, at least, no decent mage stats. I check the Ah pretty often for mage gear/stats, and get 1-4 results at most for each type of stat/gear. usually. Almost all the gear I see on the Ah are crafted.

The Ah feels empty, compared to back then, when there'd be 20+ results each time I searched. If you want stat prices to drop, you need people selling it first. Prices of anything that almost nobody is selling will not drop.

Quoted from "narix11"

Buying low selling high is what people do. The problem is people who buy low sell high can do it with any prices but they still get same profit. Like on palenque right now people buy dias for 240k each and sell for 260k each but they could still get same profit if they bought for 40k and sold for 60k. So it only harms people who want to buy dias as now they have to pay 260k for them instead of 60k. It's all good for people who sell dias tho. Getting 240mill gold for just 1k dias who wouldn't like that? But with prices as they are right now 1bill gold is pretty much the same as 100mill was before. So it would take some server agreement at what MAX price dias should be sold or something like that to balance things out.

Quoted from "Cike"

narix, that's rich coming form you LOL

No kidding.. lolol someoen who complains about high dias prices yet buys lwo and sells higher. yet complains about othe rpeople doing it.

While we're at this, please lower prices on physical immune foods too. Hard to buy them when they go for 1.5m per stack.

Yet another whine, whine, QQ thread about in-game stat/gear/food prices. At least this one is fairly honest, blaming the players instead of blaming Gameforge. Bravo! Brava!

On Osha, the most ridiculously priced item(s) I've seen recently in the AH have been:

T11 Dim Light, +16, underdura (hammered), 4 rune slots, with US Flag agg, 200M. (Really? I have a t9 +16 DL, underdura, 4 rune slots, for which I paid 20M. A much better deal. I have a second one which a friend gave me, gratis. Plussed it to 16, added 3 rune slots, clean statted to T7 myself. Also a much better deal.)

Hero Pots, stacks of 30, 5M per stack. Nobody seemed to have bought them, so they were either taken down or reverted to mailboxes. Others stepped in and put stacks of 30 for as "little" as 930K per stack. Still too expensive. Waiting for my favorite HP sellers to put up stacks for their usual 185K per. I'll buy every damned one of those if I get the chance. Or I'll do without, if I have to.

Orange stam/patk and int/matk stats are currently offered for 35M-50M. Most are Eclipses. Equal value or close to it yellows are going for 20M-30M. I recall seeing one Capital stat on offer. Other, not quite "bleeding edge" or "min/max" stats going for far more reasonable prices, relatively speaking. I buy what I can use as I can afford to. I don't need "perfectly statted" gear, after all. (BTW, one dipwad was trying to sell a Castle stat for 12M...)

Rock Crystal Candy has been offered for 1M/30 stack, give or take. Serenstum similarly priced. Again, ridiculous.

Lvl 70+ patk and matk foods offered for 1.5M/30 stack, give or take. Really? The mats are that expensive/hard to find?

Just remember that it's your]/b] good buddies who are escalating the prices. And for every one who does that, it means five others will escalate [b]their prices. Just don't try to claim that GF did this, or forced them to set those prices. The players did it, and are doing it, all on their own.

I'm amazed at the price of bag stats - Yellow XI and XII's.

X/mdef and the like going for around 20k is fine, but on EU servers the likes of dex/patt and str/patt are going for 20k with the X/mdef going for about 10k.
On Osha, the sta/str/dex with patt or int/matt are all up at 3 mill or higher!

So, I decided it would be cheaper for me to farm my own. Easily done given that they drop all over the place.

20k for a bag stat the same quality of a hero stat is not bad

Same old story.
You are talking about a 'currency' which can and has been freely 'printed' by anyone in the game.
By that I mean Paspers/Clops/KS... farming and the likes(yeah, and botters). It has been accumulating since the beginning of RoM.

There's no real gold sink, so it doesn't go away.

What happens if you keep printing money? Exactly, it's called inflation. I have postage stamps with 50 million Reichsmark printed on them.
Also the population has been steeply declining: even more gold for even fewer people.

Let me play advocatus diaboli here:
Gold has no actual value, and yet you are complaining that people who shelf out 'real money' (yes, diamonds) which they aquired through labour (probably) are demanding too much gold.
Demanding less 'greed' from diamond sellers or anyone else is kind of silly and misplaced here. I'll do a little math for you.
Lets assume the net worh of an average 'endgamer' in gold is 1bn (no, thats not far fetched nowadays)
At 25k per diamond like it was not too long ago, that would be:
1000000000/25000 = 40000 diamonds

If there's no diamond sale thats equal to:
40000⋅(24.99/900)≈1110€ (pardon the currency ...)

Do you think someone's just gonna hand me out a third of his monthly salary for gold?

Back in those days when diamonds were 25k, people sold:
Weapons for 100M+ (~110€ worth of diamonds)
Gear for 40M+ a piece (~44€ worth of diamonds)
...
So don't complain about greedy diamond sellers. They want something for their money and the game is expensive enough without selling diamonds. I never did nor will I ever sell diamonds at rates like theese.


As for the other side:
Don't complain about the 'greedy' people charging a lot for stats when the puri alone costs 5M.
Don't complain about the price of tierstones when the production cost for a T10 at current dia rates exceeds 170M for the charges alone.

Don't complain about any player at all, you are ignoring reality: gold is worthless and there is no sink.
Unless you all *destroy* your gold(lol, right), you can do nothing to change that.


IMHO there's exactly two ways out of this mess and I'm not counting on the good one beeing implemented.



Flame on.

Not all dia sellers are bad and have high prices. I spend hundreds of dollars buying dias each week in attempts to lower prices. Currently dias prices on grimdal range from 250k-350k so I created several accounts and I sell dias at 130k each in an attempt to drain the servers gold supply which will in turn lower dia prices.

Just in this past week I removed 17-20 billion gold.. that gold will never be seen again and I'm going to keep doing it til dia prices are back down to 50-70k per. No gold means can't sell dias at 250k per cuz no one can buy them. As those dia prices decrease so will mine until they start selling at an acceptable price.

Since the day I started playing I have sold dias and will never stop. I even used to do occasional riddle events and gave away stacks of 300-500 dias as a prize and anyone could participate at no cost to them at all but since people have raised dia prices they only way to get them back down is to drain the gold from the server.

By the end of next week I estimate that I should have removed around another 50-60 billion gold from the server. All it takes is time and persistance.

Tl:dr

Not all dia sellers are bad... gold is bad and the gold cap needs to be change to (per account) not (per character) anymore

A t11 dagger for 200M is far from a bad deal.. you do realize that the cost to make a t11 verses a t9 is 9x more expensive? 20M x 9 = 180M. That's pretty darn close to 200M. Factor in how much those t11's actually cost to make and they're losing tons of money by trying to sell it for 200M.

Complaining about the price of pots and food is just ridiculous. We *just* had a crafting festival. If you can't make every pot and food yourself by this point in the game you have no right to be complaining about the prices, because it really just means you're too lazy to make the food yourself. I can craft every food and every pot I need. Sometimes I buy them because I forget or I don't feel like crafting, but you can bet I don't complain about the prices because that's the price for laziness.

On the value of orange stats... we're honestly lucky they're as cheap as they are. Nobody is farming proofs anymore, and when you take into consideration the cost just to pull a single orange stat at this point is well over 60-70M per pull, it's no surprise orange stats are so expensive. We're *lucky* they're only at 40-60M.

You like to complain alot about whiners Mal, but then you do the exact same thing.

Quoted from "Malignatus"

Yet another whine, whine, QQ thread about in-game stat/gear/food prices. At least this one is fairly honest, blaming the players instead of blaming Gameforge. Bravo! Brava!

On Osha, the most ridiculously priced item(s) I've seen recently in the AH have been:

T11 Dim Light, +16, underdura (hammered), 4 rune slots, with US Flag agg, 200M. (Really? I have a t9 +16 DL, underdura, 4 rune slots, for which I paid 20M. A much better deal. I have a second one which a friend gave me, gratis. Plussed it to 16, added 3 rune slots, clean statted to T7 myself. Also a much better deal.)

Hero Pots, stacks of 30, 5M per stack. Nobody seemed to have bought them, so they were either taken down or reverted to mailboxes. Others stepped in and put stacks of 30 for as "little" as 930K per stack. Still too expensive. Waiting for my favorite HP sellers to put up stacks for their usual 185K per. I'll buy every damned one of those if I get the chance. Or I'll do without, if I have to.

Orange stam/patk and int/matk stats are currently offered for 35M-50M. Most are Eclipses. Equal value or close to it yellows are going for 20M-30M. I recall seeing one Capital stat on offer. Other, not quite "bleeding edge" or "min/max" stats going for far more reasonable prices, relatively speaking. I buy what I can use as I can afford to. I don't need "perfectly statted" gear, after all. (BTW, one dipwad was trying to sell a Castle stat for 12M...)

Rock Crystal Candy has been offered for 1M/30 stack, give or take. Serenstum similarly priced. Again, ridiculous.

Lvl 70+ patk and matk foods offered for 1.5M/30 stack, give or take. Really? The mats are that expensive/hard to find?

Just remember that it's your]/b] good buddies who are escalating the prices. And for every one who does that, it means five others will escalate their prices. Just don't try to claim that GF did this, or forced them to set those prices. The players did it, and are doing it, all on their own.