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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 4:10pm

the NEW AFK rules!!!!!

AFK: What is and is not allowed


Dear Community!

There has been a lot of discussion over what is and is not allowed whilst AFK ingame.

Together with Support, the following list of activities has been agreed upon.


What is allowed whilst AFK:

  • Materials production in the Guild Castle at the Forge, Field or Lumberyard;
  • XP/TP Debt Reduction at the Library;
  • Reading of Encyclopedias;
  • Weapon skill leveling through auto attack, such as the eggs in Tergothen Bay;
  • Processing Materials such as Ore, Wood or Herbs;
  • Farming Crystals from the towers in Siege War;
  • Two players are in a group but one is AFK and likely set on Follow whilst the other kills to allow XP/TP gain;
  • Production of Crafted Materials in House or at the appropriate tools provided ingame.


What is not allowed whilst AFK:

  • Use of addons that automate some activities, such as PetAutoCraft;
  • Interaction with NPCs
  • Interaction with mobs through such skills that reflect damage or such that makes it possible for a player to gain XP/TP.


I believe this list should cover most scenarios but if anyone thinks of
something that is unclear and needs to be more well-defined, please send
me a PM and I will pass the info on for clarification. The result will
then be added here.



This shouldn't affect most players at all & should allow everyone to continue having fun in the lands of Taborea.

Well it won't affect players who don't craft so who cares



Your Runes of Magic game and Support Teams.

So this is the great changes we could hope for? really??

Well first off, let the prices on food and potions go up to the roof now, who QQ'ed about PetAutoCraft? you should probably only allow the rogues to use it and no other class. Rogues never got a nerf, always gets the best out of the game on any level they are and the easiest to get also.

Now you are screwing with the people that would keep the game affordable to others to play it. PAC made it easy to get mats for the guild castle upgrades, but noooo, you guys don't want that, do you?

So now if i do dailies with my alts on follow, they might get banned? really?

Who got their panties in a bunch because they never took the time to start crafting stuff?? oh but that takes too much time, oh you need multiple toons to do it, oh i just want to be endgame and kill crap, don't want to lose my time crafting, well Gameforge great job on this one, the moron who came up with this idea is truly not playing the game, at least not crafting for crap.

But keep on the Goldspammers in world buying diamonds on AH all the time, but i guess that is ok, don't make script to get rid of them, but just lose a few more players that work hard on getting stuff for their guildies and friends. :dash:

I have many toons using petcrafting and enjoy it a lot, i got friends into crafting but now what is the use? get your account banned and go through the pain of support and might get your account back in a week? come on, this is the worst move you could have pulled on the community. Well now we will see how many players leave or get banned jut for gathering mats, this is plain stupid. :thumbdown: BTW while petcrafting i process the mats with speed potions so if a GM actually tries to whisper me in game, it will probably scrolled up to fast for me to see and then might get banned for not responding fast enough, pretty sad.

Yes i am mad, for all the QQ i did for Gold spammers, hackers, cheaters, dupers, screenshots sent to no avail. Heaven forbids we craft stuff in game and get banned for it. Soon you will have only a few people left on Reni with this stunt, great job and keep up the good work on closing down the game for good :pillepalle:

I had high hopes from the meeting with ThePit, guess i was wrong into believing in him, i am really sadden by this, hope you pass on this message to him :(

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 4:17pm

Can you explain to me how PetAutoCraft is not Botting?

Just saying, and no I did not QQ about it.

But that add on is botting in most definitions I have heard given.

But so glad to see the Zidrant...were you banned for PetAutoCraft?

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 4:17pm

With siege still messed up, The classes totally out of balance, Item shop requests. Messed up sales . Quests that don't work, etc, etc etc, Why in the world was any time wasted on this???????????????

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 4:22pm

Well probably this is the cause of the problem with the economy of the game Aardvark. Truly people crafting are as bad as gold sellers/hackers/dupers etc. We control the whole game selling hero pots for 250K a stack, while some people sell gear for 300M on AH, so ya get rid of the ones that uses PAC.

BTW what about DYICE?? can we get that removed too?? that can also be called a BOT, easy to set up to make it so when you know what you are doing. Funny how you can enter as many codes as you want in there but can'T do the same with the ingame macros thingy, mmmmhh modifying game file? BANNED but no too many rogues would QQ about this option and give the same sad excuses about DYICE just because they can't play their toons with actions bars.

Well let's all make rogues and kill ouselves every day, since no others class or anything in the game is worth doing since you might get banned for it. What's next? log in the game and if you are not a rogue you get banned?? loll pathetic

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 4:29pm

I think your overreacting Zid. Perhaps a GM can answer a question I have though.

In banning petautocraft I assume your banning the 24-7 people who stand at the pet mats guy and have autocraft rebuy mats. If however I buy 6 stacks of mine/herb/wood items I should still be allowed to use autocraft while I am actively playing to automate the processing of items IN MY BAG at the time. IF this isn't allowed then I would scream a little bit.

I don't see where it says ya cant have alts tag along on follow . From what I see its in the cando section.

I would however HAPPILY see DYCE banned plz and ty. Lazy mans way of dpsing.

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 4:39pm

I might be overreacting Daniel, but they broke the drill ground wich helped crafters and bring prices down on stuff, now they screw with the crafters once more in the game. I think they should take the time to fix R/P skills wich are broken for 1 year or 1 1/2 year, but no hurt the players that plays the other facets of the game, drive them away, great job. We have probably like 20 people plus in our guild that craft stuff, leveling it all the way to level 82, giving stuff away to others and helping. But nah let'S make the game just individualistic, moronic, name calling jerks in trade chat, we truly need more of those morons on Reni. That will help people get runs and get in high end instances.

Yes i am mad as hell because real things need to be fixed and this was really not one of them.

Daniel you are one of the few rogues i like on Reni and that always kept his opinions just like me, we are not perfect but at least we stick to our ideas ;-)

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 4:50pm

well, I know one server who's not gonna get free pots to random people in world chat anymore...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 4:51pm

This isn't the problem with the games economy in any way. The problem with the game economy is that far too many people have quit the game because of the problems I listed, so a small number of people can control the economy by many means they feel like at the moment. Look at the increase of the price of diamonds in the AH recently caused by a few people buying up diamonds and then reselling them at high prices. If so many people hadn't quit the game because of those reasons I listed that would have been impossible.
That AFK actions is the cause of the economy's problem a very broad statement with no basis in reality. It is also totally meaningless they have had botters identified and refuse to act on them. Why would you believe that they actually intend to enforce these rules when they have not bothered to enforce the rules on botting and gold selling? I have reported the same gold sellers every day and when I return the next day they are still there. Hero Potions at 250k and not a problem, complaining about that is just the rich complaining that the poor can afford bread and to mention that in the same line as 300million armor is just sad.
I agree that DYICE should be banned. It is for all practical purposes a bot for use of potions and spells.
The wasting of time and resources that could have been spent fixing the problems that matter was wasted on setting up rules for AFK. This is why nothing is being done to fix the real problems of the game and will kill it.
When you set up new rules like this you are also taking time away from other actions to monitor and enforce the rules. What action may I ask will they take them time from: adding items to the cash shop, fixing the class problems etc, There is a cost to everything where did the time and money come from to do this and why wasn't it spent on something else? Where will the time and money to monitor and enforce these rules come from?
Now you know why there and none of the items in the cash shop that they requested us to submit were added to the cash shop. They were wasting their time and money on this.

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 4:52pm

"I think they should take the time to fix R/P skills wich are broken for 1 year or 1 1/2 year, but no hurt the players that plays the other facets of the game, drive them away, great job." No arguments here!!! I been waiting for more than a year for the fix. GL2ME though at getting rom ta fix me.

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 7:04pm

Wireless Keyboard...sorted o.<

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 7:56pm

with the semicolon after the pet auto craft thing seems pretty obvious to me they just meant if you set it up with an npc in a cycle which they have stated the difference before.

Not that you can even get thunderhoof grass or anything of higher level =/

Kind of surprised they deemed afk weapon skilling ok even naming one of the places. Was curious about this and has been a grey area for me.

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 7:57pm

WTB more mats for mems...the current mats we can buy for mems are a little...restricting...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 8:03pm

and we can't buy the rarest ore/herbs/wood with mems also and it still doesn't respawn correctly in Sarlo.

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 8:07pm

Zid, I think you are jumping a little early on this...

PAC is only not allowed, WHILE AFK

Same with your situation with alts, only if they are afk... which they cant be cause you are at the keyboard on one of them.

SO if you are sitting there at the keyboard, it is NOT afk. So PAC is not out of the mix from what I read.

so you are good :)

TECHNICALLY you can have multiple clients logged in, playing another game, watching TV and as long as you are at the keyboard to response... you aren't AFK :)

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 8:09pm

well DK i understand that, i am killing, farming TP for my knight, but if they whisper me on my alt i might not see it , that is what i mean ;-(

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 8:13pm

true and I bet that if you were to get banned you could get is reversed.. Or maybe even they wont do it cause the client is on the same IP address. I know they can check that from a long time ago... All clients have same IP= if one is doing something, none are AFK. I get your point though that that is a lot to have to deal with cause you got a ban you didn't deserve.


I am glad they wanted to put in a more clear set of rules and I agree with them pretty much 100%. I do hope though that they will do more research before a ban than just.. "he is sitting there not answering BAN!"

heck I would be all for if they let us give them all our accounts so they had a list of people with multiple accounts... however that might be asking a bit much.

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 8:38pm

with the semicolon after the pet auto craft thing seems pretty obvious to me ...

Yes, I like my grammar to be correct.

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 10:38pm

I think the PAC nerf is also BS. Couldn't possibly spend time trying to fix things that matter, like hackers, dupers, gold sellers, guild leader functions, siege war, etc.... nope, have to make a BS move like that just to irritate people. I know that I for one will no longer be selling anything to the public. Mats are too hard to come by. Mem vendors are great so long as you don't need anything from lvl 32 to 61 (EG Hero pots, Moti Blended Sausages, Serenstum, etc). but hell, don't listen to the players who fund your pay checks......... that would just be a ridiculous idea.

And who has room in their backpack while running raids for pet crafting things? Hmmmm?? I sure don't. So using PAC when you're doing stuff is stupid and not going to happen. And sitting there watching pet crafting? Perhaps you should go blow on that wet paint over there........


While I'm at it, what about AAI? Is that ban-hammer worthy? or how about COI? Or what about AdvancedAuctionHouse that automatically sorts stuff for you? Or what about Auto Ride addon? hmmmmmm??

not to bring the subject up yet again, but yes, every other class gets nerfed except for the rogues.
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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 10:41pm

pretty much sums up my thoughts as well forsaken...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Wednesday, October 16th 2013, 11:31pm

lol so much rage in this thread, and I suppose I see why.. people have been askin' forever about pac and now they have an answer, just not the one they wanted to hear. I don't know many people who don't use pac nowadays since it's the only way to reliably get good amounts of moon orchid/sinner's palm and the like without running around ddc for days.

Funny thing is though, I heard that pac was okay as long as you weren't using the function in it to automatically buy tools/sell powder while you sit afk near a vendor, which is fine since imo that's pretty much the definition of botting anyway, and whoever made the addon might as well just remove that feature if that is all the cm's have a problem with.

So is sitting in your house/at the library while pac is running really taboo all the sudden now?
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