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Thursday, October 24th 2013, 4:24pm

sure, /close thread

but let me make one thing clear. almost everything that diyce does can be done by ingame macroing. so evenif u disable it, i m sure u ll come again after few weeks whining again in a "new thread" called

"Discussion: Is the use of Macros botting?"

just because some ppl want to ignore the fact that humanity has invested air-traveling, doesnt mean that everyone should travel on horses just because some ppl like to be blind and not see the reality

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Thursday, October 24th 2013, 5:52pm

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As I said the healing macro does work as I have written it, however its not always perfect so please keep in mind and don't get upset if it fails every now and then
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Thursday, October 24th 2013, 7:56pm

Well achilleas, enlighten us with guild name, toon name and server name?? no??

I hate people who post, talk crap to and against people and then just hide their identities.

I don't hide who i am and i am not afraid of what i write or express, you should try it someday, unless you are too afraid to get banned or already are and using another account to post here.

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Thursday, October 24th 2013, 8:08pm

However there are programs out there, that allow 1 click to equal a couple hundred click, so this way you could essentially make diyce a bot. I know a couple people that use this program on Palenque, one of which is banned. therefore, not having to click oer and over, almost making it a bot.

In my opinion the automation of something. After looking up the definition this is what i got.

----->an autonomous program on a network (esp. the Internet) that can interact with computer systems or users, esp. one designed to respond or behave like a player in an adventure game. <------

in that definintion. DIYCE IS a BOT. because it automates.

however other people are saying that just b/c it automates doesnt make it a bot, it makes it a macro; essentially, b/c macros do the same thing. and/or theres other programs out there that do the same thing DIYCE does. This is true. But DIYCE is a more in depth version of Rom's macros. theres no way around it. I want you to be able to use pots/immunes and attacks all in a macro. well, it wont happen.

In my opinion, with the way things are now, they wont ban DIYCE, why would they? they cant afford to lose anymore players.

Also in my opinion should DIYCE itself be banned, im about 75/25% on this. 75 toward yes 25 on no. it's essentially not DIYCE thats the problem toward botting. However it does automate. If you read the definition i found on google from typing in bot, in theory, yes it's a "bot".

However you need other programs or whatever to make DIYCE a " afk bot".. like i said.. I know people that do this, will they get banned? probably not. Will anything be done about it? probably not... If only i were a GM... about half or more of THAT guild would be banned on Palenque, you all know which.

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Thursday, October 24th 2013, 8:36pm

Well achilleas, enlighten us with guild name, toon name and server name?? no??

I hate people who post, talk crap to and against people and then just hide their identities.

I don't hide who i am and i am not afraid of what i write or express, you should try it someday, unless you are too afraid to get banned or already are and using another account to post here.
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Well achilleas, enlighten us with guild name, toon name and server name?? no??

I hate people who post, talk crap to and against people and then just hide their identities.

I don't hide who i am and i am not afraid of what i write or express, you should try it someday, unless you are too afraid to get banned or already are and using another account to post here.

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Thursday, October 24th 2013, 8:54pm

You can use an outside program to make diyce bot... Really! wouldn't that be a giant waste of time since the main outside program botter use is stand alone and does not need diyce. That is a terrible argument! The outside program can use any in game function as well so we should remove the whole game. There is a reason outside botting programs are not allowed and anyone caught using them will be banned (hopefully). Diyce has nothing to do with botting programs.

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Thursday, October 24th 2013, 9:06pm

Sigh. I think this is enough for now. DIYCE as it is is not a bot. It *requires* interaction.

"But you could use external tools." "You could use a macro keyboard." "You could reprogram something into a bot"

This is all nil. Of course, with enough programming skill you could make a bot out of anything. If you're willing to use tools that are clearly forbidden by the ToS you can also cause all kinds of stupid things.

But all of the things quoted above are not arguments at all. It is just another way of putting "I dont like that others make their life easier than I do". Or "I don't have the slightest idea what I'm talking about" - but I don't think you would like that better, so we better leave it at the first way of putting it, okay? Good.

The LUA API in Runes of Magic is there for a reason - to create addons with it. If you do not like a certain addon, you are totally free to NOT use it.

This thread has run its course and ends here, last but not least because some people prefer to take it to a personal level instead of just a discussion and I better stop this thread right here before we arrive at the point where we would need to hand out infractions.