Runes of Magic US / AU

Sounds like a good idea except for one thing. By those levels almost everyone already has an excellent mount excellent wings and the little goat of war or something that does the same. Replace those with a level special costume that is available no where else and you would have a winner.

What you're really competing with if you ask people to start from scratch is the opportunity to try a new game entirely. I suppose GameForge could offer a similar starter pack for one of their other games just as easily, though.

if it is about players who stayed for long time and all the improvements they did for their toons... I prefer to see a complete toon transfer with everything except diamonds & gold. This should be allowed once for each toon with a charge of 500-1k diamonds to avoid unnecessary toon transfers.

Well paying 1K diamonds or even 2K diamonds would be fine if i was on a server who didn't have enough population, at least being able to play with my original toon and all my stuff. I think this would be an excellent idea and could work, it would pay for the time to transfer the account etc, great idea.

They could definitely do items. Maybe not levels, but they could definitely recreate every item you owned. Every piece of gear, every costume, everything. They do that when you lose an item, they could do it when you switch servers.

Honestly I don't think that they CAN'T do server transfers, I just think they're not willing to put in the effort to figure out how.

Now on topic: I don't think that those packages are enough. That's really not much to start over with, especially if you were all endgame on the server you're switching from.

Quoted from "Borella"

Honestly I don't think that they CAN'T do server transfers, I just think they're not willing to put in the effort to figure out how.

especially since they can do transfers to a beta server...and frogster did a server transfer for a friend of mine...even if server merge means taking 2 servers and moving every1 to a blank, new server, it can be done...

lol why would gameforge pay us or give some kind of incentive for us to move to unpopulated servers???

what?? is rom that dead?? LOL

but anyways, i would pay lots and lots of $$$$$ to get a transfer to another server on the US servers, or will even pay more mucho mucho grande deniro to get my account moved to the EU servers, or hell pay gameforge to create a whole new toon on EU servers, just want my levels, exp & tp, dont care about gold/gear!!!

Only problem I see with server transfers is that all the endgamers will just congregate to one server to get more runs and the rest of the game will be left dead with nothing.

yeah and anyone wanting said gear will be on that server, making everyone trying to cram on that one server. Really they should just look at taking low pop servers and merging them. Another game I play has been doing that for the last year... and I have had to switch 3 times... yes a pain in the rear, but boy does it help the community.


I am sure you are right Borella that they CAN do it, they either don't wanna put the time into doing it, or even more are worried about the unexpected problems that may come from it, so they would rather not do it. Which honestly I don't blame them. With RW coding, and everything else they do... I would hate to see them in the position to have to transfer anyone in a timely manner. Look at the Hackman's vacation and how long it was.. I would hate that to be the normal for a transfer lol.

Quoted from "Borella"

They could definitely do items. Maybe not levels, but they could definitely recreate every item you owned. Every piece of gear, every costume, everything. They do that when you lose an item, they could do it when you switch servers.

Honestly I don't think that they CAN'T do server transfers, I just think they're not willing to put in the effort to figure out how.

You think you know what you know, but what you don't know...

Every tiered and/or statted gear piece that Support has to re-create takes several hours of work for a single Support person. They have to spawn the item itself, and then spawn other items to get the stats (if it's a statted item), then apply them to the gear piece. And no, they can not spawn a specific durability value or spawn specific stats. And then they can rune drill the item as needed and replace the runes in it, as well as plus it to the correct level. As I said, this takes a fair amount of time to accomplish.

It takes longer if the gear piece is statted and tiered.

It's easier for a dirty tiered weapon, though they still have to spawn the weapon repeatedly until they get one where the durability matches the "lost" item.

Now, imagine how long it would take to replicate a fully-geared toon, all of the gear on it, for three classes. Then imagine how long it would take to replicate every item stored in every storage furniture piece, on every housekeeper, and then toss in every Item Shop item that the toon has in its possession (bank page(s), IS bank page, IS backpack included). All of this is for a single toon, mind you. Imagine the extra work it would take to do exactly the same things for the other toons sharing that account. And this does not include changing the toon's ID number and/or its name, which would be far easier to accomplish. Levels and total TP per class would be fairly simple, too.

But every item would have to be spawned or manipulated manually, one by one.

If you're wondering where I got this information, it is what I was told by Nytefall and other Support people.

What has been publicly stated by Community Management is accurate: Server transfers are either not possible at this time, or it is far too impractical to perform them due to the sheer amount of work it would take per character per account, and per server. There is no "magic bullet" or script in existence, at least not that I am aware of, that can accomplish what is being asked for.

Quoted from "Cike"

Quoted from "Borella"

Honestly I don't think that they CAN'T do server transfers, I just think they're not willing to put in the effort to figure out how.

See what I said to Borella above.

especially since they can do transfers to a beta server...and frogster did a server transfer for a friend of mine...even if server merge means taking 2 servers and moving every1 to a blank, new server, it can be done...

Apples and oranges, Cike. When toons were copied to the test server, that's precisely what was done. The character data was copied and then placed on the test server. The character ID number didn't matter--the next available ID number was used. The character name didn't matter because no character of that name existed on the test server. I don't know if the copied toons had or were given any gold or diamonds on the test server--I didn't take part in the project. I do know that however long the test project lasted, the players who took part in it did not get to "keep" their duplicated toons, nor was the data for those toons re-copied back to their original servers.

ty for the info kalvan....

sounds like the dupers/hackers had an easier time creating and modding gear than the support gms.

no wonder you cant get anything done.

Quoted from "Borella"

They could definitely do items. Maybe not levels, but they could definitely recreate every item you owned. Every piece of gear, every costume, everything. They do that when you lose an item, they could do it when you switch servers.

Honestly I don't think that they CAN'T do server transfers, I just think they're not willing to put in the effort to figure out how.

Now on topic: I don't think that those packages are enough. That's really not much to start over with, especially if you were all endgame on the server you're switching from.

They COULD recreate the items, but they wont. They wont even recreate the items if it dissapears, so to say they COULD, thats a BIG IF.

Quoted from "TWMXC"

sounds like the dupers/hackers had an easier time creating and modding gear than the support gms.

no wonder you cant get anything done.

lol, true, but the hackers/dupers were using outside programs, my question is, why cant GM's use the same to make it if it's way easier and faster? or is it not the same?

What Kalvin has told us is that it is possible. So put a price on it. $100 to move one toon, $500 to move an account. It is a business, make some money. You find a need and you fill the need.

+1 about hackers making items. Any dura, any tier, any rune, 8 sockets...

Quoted from "Amberwave"

What Kalvin has told us is that it is possible. So put a price on it. $100 to move one toon, $500 to move an account.

There is far more to moving a toon than moving items, which is why OP is suggesting rewards instead of moves.

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It is a business, make some money. You find a need and you fill the need.

There has to be ROI on developing any tools that would do this properly. Not all needs get to be fulfilled.

Quoted from "TWMXC"

sounds like the dupers/hackers had an easier time creating and modding gear than the support gms.

no wonder you cant get anything done.

+1000. It took people who hacked the game a matter of minutes to create a piece of gear. You're telling me the support staff takes HOURS to make one piece?

Quoted from "Kalvan"

And this does not include changing the toon's ID number and/or its name, which would be far easier to accomplish. Levels and total TP per class would be fairly simple, too.

Apples and oranges, Cike. When toons were copied to the test server, that's precisely what was done. The character data was copied and then placed on the test server. The character ID number didn't matter--the next available ID number was used. The character name didn't matter because no character of that name existed on the test server. I don't know if the copied toons had or were given any gold or diamonds on the test server--I didn't take part in the project. I do know that however long the test project lasted, the players who took part in it did not get to "keep" their duplicated toons, nor was the data for those toons re-copied back to their original servers.

Okay. So they can copy toons and all their gear to a test server. Changing the toons ID number/character name is simple to accomplish, going off what you said. Levels and total TP would also be easy to accomplish. Simple. Copy the character data and place it on the destination server: the next available ID will be used. If name already exists, change the name of the character.

Your two explanations contradict themselves. If they have the capability to copy all the character data from one server to another, then they wouldn't need to manually spawn every item.

Regardless, my original point is true. They COULD do it, they just won't. Even if they had to spawn the items individually, which I sincerely doubt, they could do it. We've heard over and over that it's "not technically possible", but it is.

Rusty, I totally agree. I just put out some prices. What ever it is, find the number. I knew a guy that painted murals in peoples homes, and he normally charged $300 - $600. He submitted a bid of $1800 on one job that he really did not want to do and the client said OK. Now it is worth his time. With transferring a toon, it is just a matter of man hours, it can be done. Put a price on it.