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Friday, November 22nd 2013, 10:21pm

Do we even have a sales team?

If yes, why aren't you listening? We want +16 plussers and new runes at 12 diamonds.

If no, the itemshop sales are terrible, and the players are being obviously ignored.

What is wrong over there? We have a thread saying what we want, but not many posts because people are leaving rom because they feel they aren't being listened to.

Check these forums posts per day, or active online members... vs the eu ones. its disgusting. I really do feel like the redheaded step-child, and I always tried to think the opposite of that.

Either way, why are the sales not based on what we've been asking for?


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Friday, November 22nd 2013, 10:42pm

If yes, why aren't you listening? We want +16 plussers and new runes at 12 diamonds.

If no, the itemshop sales are terrible, and the players are being obviously ignored.

What is wrong over there? We have a thread saying what we want, but not many posts because people are leaving rom because they feel they aren't being listened to.

Check these forums posts per day, or active online members... vs the eu ones. its disgusting. I really do feel like the redheaded step-child, and I always tried to think the opposite of that.

Either way, why are the sales not based on what we've been asking for?

My vote: Those lackeys over on EU side have been requesting all the fail repeat sales. That's the only reason I can think of.

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Friday, November 22nd 2013, 10:58pm

My vote: Those lackeys over on EU side have been requesting all the fail repeat sales. That's the only reason I can think of.


I say it is high time we declare war on Euroweenies. We been practicing abusing Canadians for many years now, lets's expand our theater of operation.
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Friday, November 22nd 2013, 11:01pm

Maybe it is because we are just too small of the popluation or community that they manage that they just do not care what we ask for or want.

I mean we already had statements from GM's stating that they do not care or will do much or anything if problem or issues only affects a small percent of their 28 communities.

Can't see how that is not a company wide policy dealing with all things dealing with RoM.

On the upside [this part of the post took an arrow to the knee --Saito] beta starts tonight at 6pm EST, if you got a beta invite and it is only this weekend atm, but hey that means another MMO is about to launch, always a good time to jump ship right.

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Friday, November 22nd 2013, 11:33pm

Maybe it is because we are just too small of the popluation or community that they manage that they just do not care what we ask for or want.

I mean we already had statements from GM's stating that they do not care or will do much or anything if problem or issues only affects a small percent of their 28 communities.



Pretty sure that is the issue. They won't take action for the people who won't say something.... there are only so many people on the forums and they are requiring a higher number of people to say something.....

Maybe it should be saying something to them that not many are on the forums.

Also, "[this part of the post took an arrow to the knee --Saito] " is a bad game. just saying.


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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 12:17am

stop and think for a minute here.
would you want to start playing a game if your first visit to forums was filled with this game is dying and do we even have a sales team type threads.
there is something to be said for thinking out your threads before you post such things.
here is some food for thought maybe some of the blame for the so called decline of this game is directly related to such juvenile threads being repeatedly thrown up when ever a few players dont get what they want.

dont get me wrong here there are things that need some attention but seriously i am even tired of the whining from people that i know are older than their shoe size.
fact spammers are eliminated when reported via the report tool.
fact there has been many small things fixed in last 3 moths.
fact gameforge is doing better than frogster eu did.
fact we have at 1 gm now that actually gives a crap about the game and the players concerns.
:growup: already and think about what our actions look like to any new players coming in.
its ok to complain but to keep making these threads with titles like this is just ridiculous.
and this is why i asked for my hide skill thread to be closed as i decided that i did not word the title well at all and the fact that people kept on about throw/combo throw when the thread was all about hide not recognizing going into battle.
we all need to use our heads for more than just growing hair.
go ahead and flame on me because i really dont give a ****
i care about this game and the people that i have met here and that is what prompted me to write this post.
its about time we the players take responsibility for our actions in game and on these forums.

keep in mind i am also guilty of this,i have also decided that i will not post threads with out thinking the title through.
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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 12:42am

stop and think for a minute here.


Something you did not do before you posted, this thread is about the lack of response to the players about items in the cash shop and sales. Nothing you said in your post had a thing to do with the lack of response to the many threads about sales.
It rambles about many unrelated things but nothing about the fact that the sales team (if one even exists, which is very doubtful) has never reacted in any way ever to any threads or player needs, Even the thread that management started: which asked what people wanted months ago and which so many players worked very hard to meet the very exacting standards for a response which was required to let them know what the players needed.
This thread is trying to find out if a sales team actually exists which is doubtful and if they exist why don"t they do anything ever.
Next time please stay on topic.

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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 1:17am

The title of this thread makes no sense,we have sales therefore we have a sales team.
I am just pointing out that thread titles have an effect on players.
I want plussers just as much as everyone else.
The title is misleading we obviously have one what they are thinking i dont know but with all the bs from the duping and other unforseen events maybe they are concentrating on larger issues like keeping servers running.
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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 1:33am

yeah pretty laughable sale... no +16s... STILL. I mean I do have a few pieces I refuse to use cause I cant get +16ers yet. Ring fail, losing crit dmg sigh.


I mean they had some good ones, puris, abls.. I am all stocked up on that... Just waiting for a few more things... sigh.

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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 2:39am

The title of this thread makes no sense,we have sales therefore we have a sales team.
I am just pointing out that thread titles have an effect on players.
I want plussers just as much as everyone else.
The title is misleading we obviously have one what they are thinking i dont know but with all the bs from the duping and other unforseen events maybe they are concentrating on larger issues like keeping servers running.


k, so we have a sales team that isn't doing what we are asking. so we have a bad sales team. i'm sorry.

i also don't even read the forums of ANY new games I play until I know if I enjoy the game or not. Honestly if they come here and see these threads, that is good. They can see a problem then they can pick to see if they are going to continue playing. If they don't, then there is a problem that gameforge should take care of. If we don't complain about the most obvious issues, people will come to the game and everyone will think it is okay.

If we sit here and post threads about it being all swell, what will happen? People will come to the servers and problems that we are currently complaining about continue to happen? I've been the one for the past 4 years turning my head the other way and thinking that something good will eventually be done. I'm sorry I am actually turning the other way now and realizing what is actually happening, and I do not like it at all.

Obviously me posting means I care about this game. I'm not going to just sit around and not say anything, hoping to get some response as if I was praying all night every night, without saying my concerns.

We can't get progress if nothing is spoken about, something is being said, and it's not just me.

No one posts on this forum, we have a super small community. Go visit the german forums, something is going on there. tons more posts, tons more community. The players didn't read the forums and then quit. They played the game, and then quit, possibly leaving the high ups to just think they are bored, and possibly the higher ups not realizing the problem.

We can't expect a new player base to start and continue to want to play the game if these tedious little things can't even be looked at, can we? If some new player starts playing and then quits because of the issues that we have been saying haven't been resolved, that is just as bad as not having a player at all.

Honestly, before Gameforge, I blamed most of the issues on Runewaker. Bugs and such. What is currently happening is lack of leadership, seems like no one knows what is going on. Gameforge is responsible for advertising, they obviously aren't. They are also responsible for the item shop, but they aren't doing much in the realm of what the players are asking for.

They were doing amazing in the beginning with dupers and such... kinda... but they seemed to have stopped, like they dgaf.


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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 5:26am

Having a sales team would mean that something was done and some things would change. The same sales that were loaded into the computer long ago appear at the same intervals. Some one put a program into the computer long ago that runs the same sales at the same time intervals. That is not having a sales team.

Having sales is not having a sales team. Programs run themselves long after the people who programmed them in cease to be working at the business.

The changes that have been requested don't take a team of workers months to accomplish. Almost all involved items that are already in the system and already coded. The players had to find the coding and tell them where to look to even make a request. Now you are saying there is a sales team. After what we have seen the last months it is very hard to believe there is even one person who does sales. To say there is a team of people handling sales and look at what has been accomplished in sales the the last few months makes you really wonder.

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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 9:27am

when were we told there was even a "team"? AFAIK it is just the GM/CM/FM team putting together a sale for us. If this is the case, they have so much going on that I can expect that sales would be the least of their worries right now.

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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 9:47am

Yea ive pretty much stopped playing only logged in 3 times in this 2 weeks i need a break from the repetition before I go crazy in the brains. and this month marks my 4th year playing rom. GF say they working on it but ill just wait on the side lines for them to get their sh***t in order before i spend anymore of my (possibly limited life as my guildies and close friends know) on this game.

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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 10:26am

This thread is serious. I don't understand why people don't think it is. These threads scare people away? If they were to play rom, realize the problems I have brought up in my threads, and then quit because of that, is that any better?

No, it's not.

If that were to be the case 100% of the time, how would gameforge know why people are leaving? They wouldn't.

It's threads like these that gameforge need to read and understand to make the game a more player-friendly environment. These threads give gameforge a chance to see what is happening and what is going wrong.

If none of these existed, it would be just as bad as not trying, and gameforge would NOT be to blame. It would be the players of the game who did not speak out and bring up the issues at-hand... those would be the people who are to blame.

If gameforge doesn't listen to it's community, it's gameforge's fault for the downfall of rom

If the players do not speak out about the problems with the game, it is the players fault for not bringing it to gameforge's attention.


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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 1:14pm

I don't see the big deal you can plus up to +12 right now and a few more +'s dont make a difference thats big enough to wine about i personally enjoyed the last few sales that we had nothing useless i really needed the puri package sale and just as i needed it we got it and if there wasnt a sale team we still wouldnt have dia sales this game is a business expensive or not if we dont pay them money even without a sale they arent going to keep the game going.


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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 4:16pm

If the players do not speak out about the problems with the game, it is the players fault for not bringing it to gameforge's attention.


Well, then thank you so much for starting a thread on a subject that is never ever brought up in any other thread. Or at least not in more than 50% of them.
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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 4:59pm

If you look at this weekends sale you will notice we have the exact same sale at the exact same prices on a regular basis. It answers the question once and for all. Is there a sales team ? No. Someone long ago programmed in these sales years ago and the script has been running ever since. No human hands have touched sales for a very long time.

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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 8:31pm

@pinkhat

was it not mika or thepit that said they won't change anything based off a few people? what is the issue with opening more threads about the matter at hand? If they want to see more numbers, this is the only way we can do it.


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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 9:04pm

I'd be happy to provide cheese to go along with all the whines, but...the cats have eaten it.
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Saturday, November 23rd 2013, 10:05pm



Let poor horsey be. You don't win friends or influence people by implicit assumption that people you are talking to are idiots and just have no clue what is going on without your valuable input over and over and over and over and over and over.
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