Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "zidlef"

The more it goes, the more i see that ThePit meeting was basicly a bunch of lies, no ameliorations, no redesign of the IS, no re-pricing of the IS, Gameforge really doesn't care enough about the players who pay real money to play the game and enjoy themselves.

I feel your pain Zidlef, thats why i hadnt changed much gear.... Stuck wearing 70-75th level gear, beacuse i cant plus up new stuff without spending one arm and one leg...

Tried to plus up wifes rings for crit, used 30 to get from +9 to +11 on 2 pieces, afraid to even try for +12. And if i make that the +16 plussers arent perfect either, usually get one or two fails, never getting to +16 with out buying a 2nd batch.

It went from crazy expensive to insanely crazy expensive to plus up your gear, cheaper to T7 with puries....LOL

Just got a new pair of PoM shoulders. Had 5 leftover old plussers in my bag, used those to get it to +3. Bought 20 more in IS....Shoulders are now +2 . Had the diamonds to buy some +12 gems, but I guess they will be used for something else now...or not. Note: the only time they even got to +4 was with the old jewels, have an old perfect in my bag, and there it sits.

Consider the plussing gems the Diamond Sink for RoM. LOL

Hmm ever think of how hard this game is to balance anything with the vast variety if power spread out amongst the player base.

Borella made a good statement about how the Players are the reason the game has become so expensive.

So maybe Gameforge is trying to curtail the power gain via plussing gems/pricing.

Making plus 16 the rarity instead of the norm, be real hard for +16 to be the norm if they are never available, or only available once and a great time and only in gashas.

The fail rate of plussing has always been horrid imo. Had one too many friends quit this game over the fail rate of plussing gems, no reason for gameforge to change it since we the players keep shelling it out. How many players are hording diamonds waiting for those wonderful plus 16 gems to be available?

"The more it goes, the more i see that ThePit meeting was basicly a bunch
of lies, no ameliorations, no redesign of the IS, no re-pricing of the
IS, Gameforge really doesn't care enough about the players who pay real
money to play the game and enjoy themselves. They pocket the money,
never give anything back, just look at the advent calendar, that was a
genius move to just lose more people in game and when trying to better
your toons, well good luck. " Quote from Zidlef post.

^ Might be a good reason why so many, myself included have such a negative attitude over this game atm....and you can always tell when your about to stop playing a game, and this is news that should make a few CM,GMs happy cause this bothersome player is at the end of his playing days with this game ( the recent string of events really has devastated my motivation to build or play )

Quoted from "kakita01"

Hmm ever think of how hard this game is to balance anything with the vast variety if power spread out amongst the player base.

Borella made a good statement about how the Players are the reason the game has become so expensive.

So maybe Gameforge is trying to curtail the power gain via plussing gems/pricing.

Making plus 16 the rarity instead of the norm, be real hard for +16 to be the norm if they are never available, or only available once and a great time and only in gashas.

That would simply widen the gap between the regular players and the endgame ones. Regular ones would be less able to do content tailored to those of endgame. Its like the cycle of poverty...

How if the norm is plus 12 and a player may be lucky if they ever get more than one or two pieces past +12?

They now tailor instances for +12 to be the norm instead of +16, the adding of higher plussing did more to "widen the gap", than capping ever will. The higher level plussing gem the more the cost to plus technically.

*Another* thread whining about enhancement gems? How many do we have now? Sebenty-eleben?

I have consistently advised people to *stop* using the gems when they have a string of fails or fail/drops, put the gems back in their bank page, and try again at a different time or on a different day. Does anyone ever listen? Nope. I think the advice goes in one eye and out the other.

And try as you might to blame the fail rate on Gameforge, well, *you* fail once again. Gameforge doesn't program this game or its contents. Runewaker does. So, bitch *to* Gameforge all you want, but don't place the blame at their corporate doorstep.

As for Borella placing the blame for RoM's increasing difficulty squarely on the heads of the players, well, this has to be one of the few times I agree with him. Not all players, of course. Mainly on players who spend ridiculous amounts of money on this game, boost their toons' gear to equally ridiculous levels, and then have the utter gall to come to the forums and...wait for it...complain about how much this game costs to play.

And yes, some of *that* blame should go to Runewaker and Frogster/Gameforge, for selling power in the Item Shop. Power--Purified Fusion Stones, enhancement gems above +6, and so on. Had they offered *only* convenience items, the game and its content wouldn't be quite so difficult.

Enough said.

Aside from the fact that gameforge has the capability to alter prices/availability for perfect plussing jewels, it is -mostly- runewaker's fault. But that is just -mostly- not entirely.

So the feedback is "If these jewels are so likely to fail, consider lowering the price on them or increase the availability of perfect plussers" Heck, do both. Pretty sure a lot of players would be HAPPY about that.

buying jewels that have been, for a while, notorious for their fail rate and then complain that GF/RW has cheated you is really kinda pointless...

until some1 starts a thread without saying "i had to plus all my crap, and it cost me $XXX to do so, and after YYY fails i finally got it all done, this is a ridiculous price", GF/RW just sees the fact that people will still pay $XXX to plus gear...

the funny thing about all the IS QQ threads is they all start out "i spent/spend/will spend a small fortune to enhance gear, i hate it, but i have/am/will do it anyways"...


honestly, ThePit hasn't done crap he promised, which, sadly, isn't surprising...

If they just didn't degrade your equipment the fail rate wouldn't bother me.
Paying money for a 'chance' of increasing your gear is ok but real money to make your gear WORSE is completely stupid.

*yawn* Same ole, same ole.

Besides, what the heck is that plussing jewel thing that people are QQing about? I check sales every weekend, don't recall seeing one.

We have had this discussion soooo many times, and I fail to understand, why, after YEARS of this, plusing to12 is an issue. If you are going to spend money, plus to 4 with the norms, buy 2 perfects, plus to 6, plus to 10 with norms, plus to 12 with perfects. I plus gear all the time. I almost never have a fail plusing to 4 or from 6 to 10, and the times I have tried it, I have never got to 5 on the next attempt, and it usually dropped to 3 (will not even attempt to 11 without a perfect.) Spending a little extra on the perfects saves money in the long run and saves so much on aggravation overall.

Quoted from "Amberwave"

We have had this discussion soooo many times, and I fail to understand, why, after YEARS of this, plusing to12 is an issue. If you are going to spend money, plus to 4 with the norms, buy 2 perfects, plus to 6, plus to 10 with norms, plus to 12 with perfects. I plus gear all the time. I almost never have a fail plusing to 4 or from 6 to 10, and the times I have tried it, I have never got to 5 on the next attempt, and it usually dropped to 3 (will not even attempt to 11 without a perfect.) Spending a little extra on the perfects saves money in the long run and saves so much on aggravation overall.

Can you point me to the perfect +12 gems?
If memory recalls correctly they have not been available since the IS restructure. So it makes me wonder how you are plussing gear all the time with perfects for plus 11 and 12.

Quoted from "Bakken"

If they just didn't degrade your equipment the fail rate wouldn't bother me.
Paying money for a 'chance' of increasing your gear is ok but real money to make your gear WORSE is completely stupid.

Exactly. Fair compromise which GF is unwilling to make. They will still make a good portion of money due to the failed items but atleast the players wont feel like punching their monitors after the gear they worked hard to get and upgrade ends up weaker and with less money in their pockets.

Honestly...I might be just lucky, I don't have the giant amount of failure with the diamond shop plussers.

I purchase the vendor jewels to +1, diamond jewels to get as high as I can. Usually it's +4 but if I get to +5, great. Buy the ruby gems to get up to +6, then (obviously) +12 jewels from the diamond shop to get to +12. Usually I only get 1 or 2 fails getting to +12. If I get more than 1, I stop, take a break from trying to plus and come back to it. No huge issues.

I do understand people's frustration over the failures though as even the diamond ones shouldn't fail but once in 10 or so. Spent real $$$$$ on them, they should rarely fail and go down. Failures without decreasing the level would be fine, but decreasing the level is just dumb.

Quoted from "Jguy"

I purchase the vendor jewels to +1, diamond jewels to get as high as I can. Usually it's +4 but if I get to +5, great. Buy the ruby gems to get up to +6, then (obviously) +12 jewels from the diamond shop to get to +12.

Why not the advanced vendor jewels? +7 is safe. +8 is not, with vendor gems, so stop as soon as you succeed. That leaves just levels for IS jewels.

Plussing jewels have been broken for a long time. It is a shame when there is something that so obviously needs to be fixed, but they wont do anything. Course if we keep buying them for diamonds... I guess they will keep the status quo. Personally I have switched to using P tokens for more things than I ever have. I still buy diamonds, but if they weren't so stingy with things like this I may be spending more.

Just make Diamond plussing gems not drop the level, let p token ones able to fail. Then people wanting to save money by using P token ones might pull their hair out and then buy diamond ones.


Cmon it is about time remove the drop a level part.

Quoted from "ghostwolf82"

Quoted from "zidlef"

The more it goes, the more i see that ThePit meeting was basicly a bunch of lies, no ameliorations, no redesign of the IS, no re-pricing of the IS, Gameforge really doesn't care enough about the players who pay real money to play the game and enjoy themselves.

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