Item Shop +16 Jewels

clvanbeek

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 10:37am

Can anyone remember when we last had a sale of plussing jewels to get to +16? I need some

Everyone playing the game really needs some. Otherwise it's just lots of recycled old gear floating around. For me the fun is making new gear, not using hand me downs (no offence to anyone using hand me downs).

How about we have these put back in the item shop permanently? Along with Advanced Bind Lifters.... If you still want to have sales with them, then put them on sale at a cheaper price, but keep them in the IS permanently and put a smile on my diamond buying face

More smiley faces round here might help the server populations increase again, which will help with more people buying more diamonds, more money for game development and christmas bonuses !!!!!

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Cike

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 12:45pm

I'd rather them delete +16 jewels, and never sell them again, maybe give dias to compensate loss of +'s...

seriously, the people who ask for the +20 jewels are crazy, and when implemented, will probably drive a lot of players away if the success rate/cost never changes...

my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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GarySandstorm

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 2:26pm

Sadly I have to agree with Cike, As much as i would like to be OP with +16 and +20 gear, the cost is just too much, the reason no one complained during chapter 1, 2 and some of 3 was because +6 was pretty much max plussing and is afforable(still not cheap, but affordable) frogster(then publisher) got money and the player didnt feel like they were getting ripped off too bad.

If they made the cost to get to +6 as it was back then to get to +16, even with fails or drops that would be fine. However as it stands the current model just drives more money into gf and becomes less affordable to the general player base.

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Dkjester

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 4:27pm

Cike, I completely agree with you and I have been thinking to myself, and hoping, that the lack of +16 gems is a slow phasing out of them entirely. I Think if GF were to do this then they would be listening to our input. We said it is too expensive to make gear, and one of the biggest reasons is the +16 gems are expensive, not always on sale, and really just over kill. It would also be a good marketing standpoint. As if it is easier to make new gear people will upgrade more often. Also if they take the new level 85 items and they are better at +12 than the 80 at +16, people will regear.

I for one am hoping this is the reason we haven't seen then, and more so hope they are gone for good. I do think it will be better for their profits, better for the players, better for the game as a whole if the max goes back to +12. Only downside is: Rings. People will keep the rings they have for the extra % crit dmg, unless GF makes the new rings have the same crit dmg bonus at 12 as old ones at 16.

I am hoping they listened and this is why we haven't seen the +16 gems.

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vfwiffo

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 4:57pm

I am sure not putting +16 jewels on sale is going to be even more popular than not putting recons on sale.

-- Rustyx --- 92R / 92S / 92M on Reni (Guild KnightShift). Yes, running the new FOTM R/M, cause I am not elf enough to be WD/S.

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Mrpushpop

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 5:32pm

Quoted from "vfwiffo"

I am sure not putting +16 jewels on sale is going to be even more popular than not putting recons on sale.

Once something has been offered it is very hard to take it away. On PVP servers they have not sold declarations of neutrality for over a year but at least weekly it is brought up when some old player links one or someone is yellow and brings up how we wish they were still sold.

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atriedies

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 6:33pm

and here i am thinking bring on the +20

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vfwiffo

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 6:54pm

Quoted from "atriedies"

and here i am thinking bring on the +20

Noooo! A whole bunch of people said they would quit if that happened, although I think "quit" was a spelling error for "buy a bunch so can be first with all +20 gear".

-- Rustyx --- 92R / 92S / 92M on Reni (Guild KnightShift). Yes, running the new FOTM R/M, cause I am not elf enough to be WD/S.

Oh, and people who have more than 3 classes are clinically insane.

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Lemonater

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 8:26pm

Complaints bout siege bein a one-shot fest done hast increased wit the amount o crit rate given by the +13-16 jewels. Iffn they go ter the +20, me tis out. I twould prefer ter back down ter the +12 lvl, but like yer done said, ter remover an item be harder than puttin it in. However, they hast steadfastly kept ABLs out, Rune Disks on random sales, Permanent bags rare, an now, they only hast solded the lvl 81-90 +13-16 jewels once since the lvl cap raise, an those twere in gotchas. Keepin the standard at +12 twould be fine by me, but they done should teller us that they be doin so.

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bleedingblak

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 9:00pm

Nope. Do not want +20. It's too bad +16's ever came out, but I know i'll need to get pieces to +16 before I can make new gear.

No new neck / earring / rings for me. It's literally not worth it to upgrade, even if I want to stat my new shiny gears.

+16's please.

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clvanbeek

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 9:12pm

Quoted from "Lemonater"

Complaints bout siege bein a one-shot fest done hast increased wit the amount o crit rate given by the +13-16 jewels. Iffn they go ter the +20, me tis out. I twould prefer ter back down ter the +12 lvl, but like yer done said, ter remover an item be harder than puttin it in. However, they hast steadfastly kept ABLs out, Rune Disks on random sales, Permanent bags rare, an now, they only hast solded the lvl 81-90 +13-16 jewels once since the lvl cap raise, an those twere in gotchas. Keepin the standard at +12 twould be fine by me, but they done should teller us that they be doin so.

If they're going to make +12 the norm, then they need to take all the +16's out in the world and drop them to +12 to level the playing field. Let's see how much of an uproar that causes with veteran players who have literally spent thousands of dollars on their gear ;-)

Put me down for leaving the game again soon if management doesn't lift their game.

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Cike

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 10:10pm

Quoted from "clvanbeek"

If they're going to make +12 the norm, then they need to take all the +16's out in the world and drop them to +12 to level the playing field. Let's see how much of an uproar that causes with veteran players who have literally spent thousands of dollars on their gear ;-)

it would work fine if they stop the jewels at lvl 80, and keep releasing new content, due to the fact that, as pointed out above, new +12 gear will be better than old +16(need to adjust rings though)...the existing +16 pieces would turn into moa weapons: shiny and fun to look at, as well as OP for the level, but not worth a crap at level cap anymore...

Quoted from "clvanbeek"

Put me down for leaving the game again soon if management doesn't lift their game.

i think many people are in this boat...

my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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ruisen2000

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 11:00pm

Or, they could make +16 the new norm. Lower the price of +16's to the same as +12's, +12's to +6's, and +6 even cheaper. If they simply stopped selling +16's, it would take like 3-4 content releases before new gear is actually worth using.

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Dkjester

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Thursday, December 19th 2013, 11:35pm

I do think though we are at a tipping point and Cike once again hits it on the head. Have to adjust the 80+ gear to be as good at 12 or better than sub 80 at 16. I think this needs to happen or +16s needs to be put in and prices adjusted.. All good idea.

+20, I would quit as well, even if prices of all 6/12/16 gems were lowered. It would just be too much, just like adding another rune slot, or 9 stats per gear... It is just too much. Both of us have decided +20 gems will be a sign that the would rather make things worse than better and we would move on to something else.

However, either decision of +16s would be fine, either offer them, or get rid of them. Neither will make me quit... Doing nothing and continuing not offering them and ill start to stagnate. Already burned through almost all our +16 jewels and we stocks MAJORLY and all we got is like 20 Accessory plussers and 3 weapon plussers. and those weapon are gonna be gone soon.

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vfwiffo

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Friday, December 20th 2013, 12:25am

Enhanced plussing technology is evil, just as enhanced computer technology is evil, just as enhanced phone technology. Embrace the sameness!

Now, excuse me, I have my spiffy 17" CRT to repair.

-- Rustyx --- 92R / 92S / 92M on Reni (Guild KnightShift). Yes, running the new FOTM R/M, cause I am not elf enough to be WD/S.

Oh, and people who have more than 3 classes are clinically insane.

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clvanbeek

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Friday, December 20th 2013, 1:11am

removing +16 or changing the damage existing gear does so +12 becomes better sounds like way to much work from a programming point of view. Just bring the +16 Jewel's back to the IS, with ABL's like everyone keeps asking for...

I'm guessing that management do not actually trouble their busy days with reading the forums and are completely out of touch with the realities of game play from a users perspective... This game could have been a WoW beater easily with a few better decisions being made and a little attention to the mathematics within the game.

Oh yeah, and fix Tempest heights, were no spawns in it this morning ;-)

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Cike

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Friday, December 20th 2013, 1:17am

Quoted from "clvanbeek"

removing +16.......way to much work from a programming point of view.

how about GF not sellling them anymore? that is about as easy as it gets, and i doubt even GF can screw that up if they tried...

my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Drakkarsdad

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Friday, December 20th 2013, 1:34am

Quoted from "Cike"

Quoted from "clvanbeek"

removing +16.......way to much work from a programming point of view.

how about GF not sellling them anymore? that is about as easy as it gets, and i doubt even GF can screw that up if they tried...

Uh, ...Nevermind.. don't want a vacation..