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Thursday, December 26th 2013, 2:16am
Thursday, December 26th 2013, 4:54am
and wait to see the new rogues weapon, still gonna be the best weapon, the best damage and all, LOL. And probably will drop from the first boss in the new instance LMAO
Thursday, December 26th 2013, 5:11am
Not really, because there's nothing preventing you from using the same T5's on the old weapons too. So if you T11 new weapons, it still costs the exact same to T11 the lv 80 weapons.You all do know that since the 85 stuff is one tier higher base, so to effectively compare the 80 and 85 you'll need to make the 85 t11, not t10.
Thursday, December 26th 2013, 5:17am
Rusty lies! lol. There were several daggers, only one of them had a higher DPS than Sandos.
Thursday, December 26th 2013, 6:35am
That's true, but you have to remember, gear, after all, is all about cost vs boost gained. Most people won't spend more money on crappier new gear to get a small benefit. Its the same as Arbiter of Fate. It was worse than Shackles, so people didn't use it. I don't think very many people tiered their Arbiter higher just so that they could upgrade from their shackles, even if KBNE was the first instance to drop blue T5's.To those who don't understand why I say they must be t11 for comparison, it's not about the cost, it's about the boost in damage.
Hoson spine base t4, so making them t10 is a 60% boost in damage.
82/85 gear starts at base t5, so making those weapons t10 is only a 50% boost in damage.
Forget the cost of tiering, forget everything else. The ONLY thing to consider is the boost from each tier raised.
Thursday, December 26th 2013, 6:40am
That's true, but you have to remember, gear, after all, is all about cost vs boost gained. Most people won't spend more money on crappier new gear to get a small benefit. Its the same as Arbiter of Fate. It was worse than Shackles, so people didn't use it. I don't think very many people tiered their Arbiter higher just so that they could upgrade from their shackles, even if KBNE was the first instance to drop blue T5's.To those who don't understand why I say they must be t11 for comparison, it's not about the cost, it's about the boost in damage.
Hoson spine base t4, so making them t10 is a 60% boost in damage.
82/85 gear starts at base t5, so making those weapons t10 is only a 50% boost in damage.
Forget the cost of tiering, forget everything else. The ONLY thing to consider is the boost from each tier raised.
Thursday, December 26th 2013, 7:01am
I think the main difference is our priorities. My priority is, if I spend X amount of diamonds, how much benefit do I get from it? That's the one thing that really matters to me.That's true, but you have to remember, gear, after all, is all about cost vs boost gained. Most people won't spend more money on crappier new gear to get a small benefit. Its the same as Arbiter of Fate. It was worse than Shackles, so people didn't use it. I don't think very many people tiered their Arbiter higher just so that they could upgrade from their shackles, even if KBNE was the first instance to drop blue T5's.To those who don't understand why I say they must be t11 for comparison, it's not about the cost, it's about the boost in damage.
Hoson spine base t4, so making them t10 is a 60% boost in damage.
82/85 gear starts at base t5, so making those weapons t10 is only a 50% boost in damage.
Forget the cost of tiering, forget everything else. The ONLY thing to consider is the boost from each tier raised.
That's true, the issue there was both weapons started at the same base tier. When comparing those two, both starting at the same base tier, yes the Arb was worse. In order to accurately compare, you have to compare the weapons with the same % boost.
Thursday, December 26th 2013, 7:20am
I think the main difference is our priorities. My priority is, if I spend X amount of diamonds, how much benefit do I get from it? That's the one thing that really matters to me.That's true, but you have to remember, gear, after all, is all about cost vs boost gained. Most people won't spend more money on crappier new gear to get a small benefit. Its the same as Arbiter of Fate. It was worse than Shackles, so people didn't use it. I don't think very many people tiered their Arbiter higher just so that they could upgrade from their shackles, even if KBNE was the first instance to drop blue T5's.To those who don't understand why I say they must be t11 for comparison, it's not about the cost, it's about the boost in damage.
Hoson spine base t4, so making them t10 is a 60% boost in damage.
82/85 gear starts at base t5, so making those weapons t10 is only a 50% boost in damage.
Forget the cost of tiering, forget everything else. The ONLY thing to consider is the boost from each tier raised.
That's true, the issue there was both weapons started at the same base tier. When comparing those two, both starting at the same base tier, yes the Arb was worse. In order to accurately compare, you have to compare the weapons with the same % boost.
Thursday, December 26th 2013, 7:26am
the pictures you guys are linking are with accuracy and dex/patk like normal mode drop and crafted. Wheres the pure atk hm dagger and staff?
in itempreview those show up twice like the hm ones are missing
This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "vfwiffo" (Dec 26th 2013, 8:14am)
Thursday, December 26th 2013, 7:57am
If you take a T4 item to T10, it takes 3 x T10 mana stones. Taking a T5 item to T11 takes 3 x T11 mana stones.
I think the main difference is our priorities. My priority is, if I spend X amount of diamonds, how much benefit do I get from it? That's the one thing that really matters to me.
That's a valid point, but consider the amount of time, gold, charges, ect is the same taking a t4 item to t10 as it is t5 to t11. Tiering both item is boosting it 6 tiers. So the cost is the same for both of these.
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