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Wednesday, January 1st 2014, 2:25pm

Crashing

Does anyone have an answer or has anyone noticed that when fighting against certain Palenque guilds in siege, I (you) tend to crash much more often during that siege and continually for the days following it until the weekly maintenance? We fought a shady Palenque guild the middle of last week and ever since then I crash 5-6x a day. Prior to that siege I would crash maybe (on a bad day) twice. I've seen this happen before with other guilds, but mostly with Palenque.

Anyone have any ideas? Yes I will report how I am after the upcoming maintenance to see if it changes anything.


Also please don't get into the whole "they hack/cheat whatever". I'm looking for constructive feedback and don't want the thread closed after a handful of posts.

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Wednesday, January 1st 2014, 8:00pm

I've suffered more crashes, and more often, since the last patch and installation of the Snowflake Festival than I had prior. It's been happening more often during siege, too. I especially hate it when I have 800+ merits on board and haven't either traded them off or used them in some way.

(As an aside, I've also been having problems doing offensive/defensive upgrades at the Forge--damned thing refuses to respond in any way. I have to find an unoccupied guildie, trade the merits off, and have the guildie do the upgrade. PITA and a waste of my time.)

As far as I'm concerned, it has nothing to do with guilds from Palenque or other servers, just the nature of the Beast That Is The RoM Client.

OTOH, I play on Osha, the red-headed, one channel, stepchild server. :dash:

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Wednesday, January 1st 2014, 8:08pm

I would agree with you Mal, except this all started during that one siege. Prior to that, even through the recent patches I never had an issue, but like I said, after the reset tonight I'll keep a closer eye on it to see if anything changes.

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Wednesday, January 1st 2014, 9:54pm

I haven't had any particular problems when facing guilds from Palenque, insofar as crashing during siege or afterwards. Calls of being a hacker or exploiter, yes. Those happen on a fairly regular basis. Opponent players porting? Yes, due to paper cups and string that some players are force to use to connect. :D

I do have a policy that I use almost immediately AFTER each siege--Return To Character Selection and, if no crash is involved then, immediately exit the game and relog. This 1.) saves any data gathered by WarRecord and KillStats and 2.) gives me fresh relog without a crash when exiting the game. #1 is important enough to me to do it this way.

Another aside: Isn't it interesting that the title of "red-headed stepchild" has shifted from Palenque, to Reni, and now to Osha?

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Wednesday, January 1st 2014, 10:00pm

reni was never a true stepchild...maybe the least favorite sibling for a bit, but never a stepchild...

and i don't see how osha is a stepchild either...sure, they have a couple less channels on some zones, but is that stepchild-worthy?
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Thursday, January 2nd 2014, 6:15am

Let's see...we've had one channel in ALL zones for the past three months, due to "hardware issues", or so the Powers That Are had said. I've yet to see the light at the end of that particular tunnel.

Use your imagination as to how that affects things. And it might also be contributing to the number of extra crashes that people on Osha have been experiencing. Speculation there, insufficient data.

But being a ginger isn't all that bad, I guess.

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Friday, January 3rd 2014, 12:48pm

I haven't sieged for while, like six months or more, but I noticed a huge increase in crash after the previous festival. At that point everytime I change something like in my action bar or a price on AH item usually I crash. Seems to have something related with addons perhaps that alter that savevariable.lua on documents folder and the last two events, since I haven't changed my addons in this time.

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Friday, January 3rd 2014, 8:07pm

I haven't sieged for while, like six months or more, but I noticed a huge increase in crash after the previous festival. At that point everytime I change something like in my action bar or a price on AH item usually I crash. Seems to have something related with addons perhaps that alter that savevariable.lua on documents folder and the last two events, since I haven't changed my addons in this time.
Well, if you have elebenty-seven different addons installed, each one of them is going to use a bit of memory (system RAM), some more than others. Considering that as a 32-bit program itself, RoM can only directly use or address data in the first 4GB (give or take) of RAM, regardless of how much more total system RAM you have installed. So, if you don't really NEED several of those addons, remove them and free up some RAM.

Related to hardware, players with 4, 6, or 8 core CPUs are in no better shape than those with dual-core CPUs (other than overall clock speeds). RoM is old enough that, at best, it can only utilize a maximum of 2 CPU cores--it can't really multithread. IF it uses a second core at all, that's accomplished by the OS, for the most part, not the client application itself.

I've also found--for those of us who leave our computers running 24/7--that even with Windows 7 it's a good idea to do at least a weekly reboot. As an example, I did a restart yesterday afternoon. In the late evening, I was able to switch toons (same account, natch) four or five times without crashing. This included several trips in and out (both toons) of their respective houses, based in Varanas.

You can mitigate crashes. But you can't completely avoid them.

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Saturday, January 4th 2014, 2:19am

*sigh* My problem today wasn't crashing, it was dropping completely to login screen. My ping would shoot up to around 25 seconds and then bam, login screen. And it isn't my internet because all my other services, connection to the router, voice chat and ping to my servers was fine.

Sadly, when this happened and I dropped to login screen, my main toon lost ALL of his hotbar stuff. It's completely gone. Expanded hotbars and default hotbars, it's completely gone.

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Saturday, January 4th 2014, 3:01am

Let's see...we've had one channel in ALL zones for the past three months

i don't mean to derail the topic... but pffft. come and see me when you have had one channel for a few years. Thalia, the true stepchild server.

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Monday, January 6th 2014, 4:40pm

What if I told you...

That it's the low performance server's and shotty programming that the game runs on.

#conspiracies
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Monday, January 6th 2014, 7:47pm

What if I told you...

That it's the low performance server's and shotty programming that the game runs on.

#conspiracies
I can buy miserable programming as ONE cause for crashing.

But kindly provide proof of "low performance servers".

#ignorancecurablestupidisforever

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Tuesday, January 7th 2014, 12:28pm

lol because the server's that EVERYONE plays on doesn't crash EVERYONE that plays the game.

There has to be some other answer, probably EVERYONE's computers. or perhaps its hackers or the palenque server. Seems most logical.
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Tuesday, January 7th 2014, 2:25pm

lol because the server's that EVERYONE plays on doesn't crash EVERYONE that plays the game.

There has to be some other answer, probably EVERYONE's computers. or perhaps its hackers or the palenque server. Seems most logical.

Theres a name I haven't seen in awhile.

I'm going with both programming and server hardware. Chances are the servers have not been upgraded in quite some time but the game still continues to evolve. More content, less resources and room to run it. It would be interesting to see the specs on the servers actually, although impossible without shell access or knowing the name of the co-location host.
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