Runes of Magic US / AU

I was surprised they gave those out lol, I was for a long time the only person i knew that had a stack on AU until that event. They won't give out Dumplings/wines for what ever reason but they'll give out those....

What server do you play on? AFAIK every server got the same gifts during the GF christmas GM visits event.

One hopes that they do not have an infinite supply. Personally, i take it as a kind of victory when my opponent has to use consumable assets to win against me.

You can't really spam them. They have a 1 minute cooldown.

I try to use them sparingly because they are rare. But if I'm up against someone I know I can beat with a restore to HP, by all means I'm going to do it, and it's perfectly fair in my opinion because all the servers had multiple opportunities to receive them. I detest that Phirius pots are not usable in Siege war and think they should be, and perhaps increase the CD on them. I have a full stack of each of them and no where to use them because I don't run instances quite as much (and I usually have good healers behind me when I do).

Additionally, there are a ton of other items/skills that do a full restore to HP nearing death, such as Phoenix Redemption. Are you sure it was not someone using such a skill?

Quoted from "Jguy"

You can't really spam them. They have a 1 minute cooldown.

I try to use them sparingly because they are rare. But if I'm up against someone I know I can beat with a restore to HP, by all means I'm going to do it, and it's perfectly fair in my opinion because all the servers had multiple opportunities to receive them. I detest that Phirius pots are not usable in Siege war and think they should be, and perhaps increase the CD on them. I have a full stack of each of them and no where to use them because I don't run instances quite as much (and I usually have good healers behind me when I do).

Additionally, there are a ton of other items/skills that do a full restore to HP nearing death, such as Phoenix Redemption. Are you sure it was not someone using such a skill?

You might want to double check the cooldown or provide a screen showing that it does. I've got video of someone spam using them in a recent siege.

There were a few servers that only received the partial list of goodies that were given out. Gm's have promised to revisit those that didn't get everything, as of this post we are still waiting. Right now I do believe it is completely unfair in siege, either make sure everyone has access to them or block them completely, this nonsense about some servers getting these types of items while others didn't just makes siege that much more unbalanced.

Quoted from "ghostwolf82"

What server do you play on? AFAIK every server got the same gifts during the GF christmas GM visits event.

Sadly this isn't true Govinda never got any of these Universal Potions, on the two visits we received we only got the little magic biscuits, a card, and some other small things. On the second visit we got level 80 food, hero pots, and strong stims.

So people are complaining of what they got and didn't get from GM's?? like really?? i wasn't on that night they came to Reni to give free stuff last time, i didn't get anything from them. But my guildies gave me some of those potions and we didn't get an unlimited supply of them, funny how people go mommy mommy i didn't get as much ice cream as that other boy, well suck it up, that is what you got.

I want to say tyvm to the gifts we got, at least we got something ;-) They are trying, might not be perfect but a heck of a lot better than Frogster, as to Gameforge makes it fair for everyone to get something. Remember Frogster president coming and giving thousand of egg rice dumplings to endgamers only that one night?? so ya, they make it fair at least.

BTW sman987 your comment : " we only got the little magic biscuits, a card, and some other small things" well next time maybe you might not get anything. You got something just learn to say tyvm, they are not obligated to give us ANYTHING!! they did it to be nice and helpful.

Can't wait for the next time they come on and play with us, i want my NINJA BUNNY!!!! POM event would be nice or and EVE and FRANK event for guilds!!

Quoted from "zidlef"

So people are complaining of what they got and didn't get from GM's?? like really?? i wasn't on that night they came to Reni to give free stuff last time, i didn't get anything from them. But my guildies gave me some of those potions and we didn't get an unlimited supply of them, funny how people go mommy mommy i didn't get as much ice cream as that other boy, well suck it up, that is what you got.

I want to say tyvm to the gifts we got, at least we got something ;-) They are trying, might not be perfect but a heck of a lot better than Frogster, as to Gameforge makes it fair for everyone to get something. Remember Frogster president coming and giving thousand of egg rice dumplings to endgamers only that one night?? so ya, they make it fair at least.

BTW sman987 your comment : " we only got the little magic biscuits, a card, and some other small things" well next time maybe you might not get anything. You got something just learn to say tyvm, they are not obligated to give us ANYTHING!! they did it to be nice and helpful.

Can't wait for the next time they come on and play with us, i want my NINJA BUNNY!!!! POM event would be nice or and EVE and FRANK event for guilds!!

So let me see if I understand what you're saying. Because you got something that allows you to spam click back to full everything, you're telling those who didn't get the SAME treatment you got to shut up and go home. REALLY? How about until everyone is on equal terms again with or without these potions, they give the people who never got them the ability to 1 shot people in siege. All the people that did not get these potions are asking for is to either have them removed or make them the same as phirius potions and not usable in siege. As I mentioned earlier, my guild recently fought against someone who spam clicked these things so much that we finally gave up trying to kill the guy, it was pointless. That's fair in siege to those who didn't get those potions how? Ultimately it gives the people that have them an unfair advantage in siege, like it or not, it's the truth.

Ziav, have they removed all egg rice dumplings from servers?? no so won't happen. Isn't it an unfair advantage they gave food and potions to some but not others? so let's remove all the 75 or 80 food and potions from the game too.

I would love for them to remove hide or give it to everyone also, won't happen ;-)

Phirius pots should be allowed in siege, you can get them from GG minigame or buy them from P-tokens, so everyone have access to them in getting them.

Also if i craft the level 80 regenrating potions and have the set skills for healing myself, am i having an unfair advantege over other players? because i took the time to make them or get the set skills?? so they should remove those also?

Are phoenix redemption unfair too? no they are not, they are part of the game

I ran out of the universal potions 4 sieges ago and some will still have them in 6 months, not unfair.

People are just hurt because they didn't get any, well it happens, QQ'uing about it won't change anything.

This thread is starting to turn into another "no one should have +16 stuff" thread. It does suck when one team has an advantage over another, but then that's part of the battle. The matchups aren't always fair in SW, sometimes one side has 3 times as many people show up as the other, one guild may have 7 OP people vs. the other team having 1 OP person, one castle might not have as many upgrades as their opponent, etc. I understand that the GMs did not show up on all servers to give people a chance to even get everything and on some of them they didn't give out the same stuff, but you've got to learn how to overcome it while you are venting about it.

I hope you guild continued to fight until the end because it would force them to use most of the pots. And honestly, if they were smart they would have waited until the end to use them when it's time to cap and lock the towers instead of throughout the whole siege. I always feel a little vindicated when my fail toon forces someone to use all their buffs or foods to keep from dying.

Quoted from "Djed"

This thread is starting to turn into another "no one should have +16 stuff" thread. It does suck when one team has an advantage over another, but then that's part of the battle. The matchups aren't always fair in SW, sometimes one side has 3 times as many people show up as the other, one guild may have 7 OP people vs. the other team having 1 OP person, one castle might not have as many upgrades as their opponent, etc. I understand that the GMs did not show up on all servers to give people a chance to even get everything and on some of them they didn't give out the same stuff, but you've got to learn how to overcome it while you are venting about it.

I hope you guild continued to fight until the end because it would force them to use most of the pots. And honestly, if they were smart they would have waited until the end to use them when it's time to cap and lock the towers instead of throughout the whole siege. I always feel a little vindicated when my fail toon forces someone to use all their buffs or foods to keep from dying.

Having uneven odds in a battle is fine, provided both sides have equal access to everything. Since these are GM's pots and can not be obtained any other way, it has created an unfair advantage to those who did get these items. If both sides had these pots, I wouldn't be here saying anything, but it needs to be FAIR. Fair is having equal access. Having the ability to bring in equal numbers of people is fair, even if your team doesn't bring in all they can. Having OP people is fair, because everyone has the access to that gear and stats. That's all anyone from the left out servers are asking for, a level playing field, not one where one side has a GM advantage over the other.

@Zid,
You completely missed the point. Eggrice was given out to everyone on all servers. Some people hoarded them for years, their choice, but they were on all servers. Anything crafted is available to everyone. What you have in those univeral potions is a GM ITEM, which is not attainable any other way except from a GM. Those were NOT given to every server. They were given to select servers. Give them out to everyone or no one, not half the population. You named off everything that is or has been available to every server over the years, stop trying to make it look like those asking for a level field are crying, we are not. You can keep your universal pots so long as I get a 5 minute fearless that you can't qq about, that would be fair right, because everyone has fearless in siege.

Im stocking up my universal potions and will only break them out when I have all 4 of the following.

1. Destiny ring
2. Sacred phoenixes (was hoping for a new year sale of them)
3. Donachuka potions
4. Little magic biscuits

Only missing the phoenixes. Can't wait to get em. Ultimate troll mode in siege + it'll make a funny video.

Ziav people all got the egg rice dumplings on every server, i agree, but on Reni when that guy popped in, he gave people like 10 and to endgamers 1000's, tell me that was fair?. I didn't get any because apparently i was too low level, so ya. Fair you say, not.

Well if you didn't get any on your server i am sorry for you guys, people will run out of these much faster than people did with egg rice. They gave like what 30 or 60 universal potions per toons. So those will be gone in 1 more month anyways ;-)

Just a discussion Ziav, no disrespect meant to you ;-)

Quoted from "zidlef"

Ziav, have they removed all egg rice dumplings from servers?? no so won't happen. Isn't it an unfair advantage they gave food and potions to some but not others? so let's remove all the 75 or 80 food and potions from the game too.

I would love for them to remove hide or give it to everyone also, won't happen ;-)

Phirius pots should be allowed in siege, you can get them from GG minigame or buy them from P-tokens, so everyone have access to them in getting them.

Also if i craft the level 80 regenrating potions and have the set skills for healing myself, am i having an unfair advantege over other players? because i took the time to make them or get the set skills?? so they should remove those also?

Are phoenix redemption unfair too? no they are not, they are part of the game

I ran out of the universal potions 4 sieges ago and some will still have them in 6 months, not unfair.

People are just hurt because they didn't get any, well it happens, QQ'uing about it won't change anything.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Ziav people all got the egg rice dumplings on every server, i agree, but on Reni when that guy popped in, he gave people like 10 and to endgamers 1000's, tell me that was fair?. I didn't get any because apparently i was too low level, so ya. Fair you say, not.

Well if you didn't get any on your server i am sorry for you guys, people will run out of these much faster than people did with egg rice. They gave like what 30 or 60 universal potions per toons. So those will be gone in 1 more month anyways ;-)

Just a discussion Ziav, no disrespect meant to you ;-)

I know Zid, no worries. Again, eggrice was given to the server, yes not everyone got them which sucks, but they were introduced onto the server for all servers. These pots have never been introduced onto the one who were forgotten about.

I agree with Zid (yet again). First they were only given out ONE TIME, there is a limited number. Once they are gone they are gone. That is FAR less of a worry than the Forest Tart recipes... I mean those are people able to make their own SUPPLY!! Just like how I feel about Egg Rice dumplings. They will eventually be all gone. Newer players are at a disadvantage cause they never had access to them! But that doesn't matter.


It doesn't matter because you know what? WHO CARES if someone has a potion that gives them full hp in siege!?!?!? They have a limited number of them then they are GONE. If you worry about someone getting full hp... it musta been a hard fight for you to get them down to almost dead... and in that case you probably will lose the siege anyway. I mean really? Crying that other people got 30 uses (per character) of a potion for full hp. Let them burn them all up... If they truly needed the potions to be good in siege, when they are out, they will be back to how they were before.


Bottom line is these potions do NOT sway the outcome of siege near as much as Laor Forest Tarts, nor Egg Rice Dumplings. So per potion they can ONE TIME, *IF* they hit it before they die, get full health and they got a limited number of them. Yeah that is so much worse than 6 seconds of immune to physical damage, that almost no one else can get, or a HUGE defense bonus for 30 min or till the die (which with 30% more defense will take longer). Honestly people need to stop QQing about how "unfair" they think things are in siege.

I had a rogue tell me the other day I was lame and a noob for using my Holy aura... On a mage/priest... In siege... against a Rogue... (that should give you some joy Zid ) Another day I was called an outright hacker... cause they used immune food, I used holy aura. Their food ran out and I popped food LOL. That isn't "unfair". I choose to play m/p in siege opposed to m/w or w/m... why ?? for holy aura!

Long story short, "wah wah wah it is unfair!!", Response: "don't worry they will run out soon, so you may have to GASP, lose a siege or two, it aint the end of the world!"

Quoted from "Dkjester"

So per potion they can ONE TIME, *IF* they hit it before they die, get full health and they got a limited number of them. Yeah that is so much worse than 6 seconds of immune to physical damage, that almost no one else can get, or a HUGE defense bonus for 30 min or till the die (which with 30% more defense will take longer).

Well then the person I watched spam SEVEN of these in a row must be the exception to the rule then. I'm sorry but when you can get back to full hp SEVEN times during a single encounter, ya that's a little unfair. So before all you people who have these keep talking about how those who don't need to just move on and give up asking for a level playing field, remember that when the tables are turned and YOU ALL are the ones qq'ing about something else in the future. I'm going to bookmark this thread so when that day comes I can tell all of you to stfu and throw this entire thread back in your faces and tell you its all fair.

Actually no... when was the last time you saw me QQ about anything being unfair in siege? Also I have never used one of those ever... not just in siege. I put them on a mule and just thought "well maybe one day ill have a use for them". And wow they must be quick on the trigger to get full health 7 times.. And ok That is 7/30, he can do it 3 more times and then have two left. He will be out soon, why QQ.

We will NEVER have an even playing field. Gear makes it uneven, buffs make it uneven, level makes it uneven, number of players make it uneven, guild buildings make it uneven, programs/macros make it uneven...... So don't start talking like this potions made it uneven.

Ah shucks, I was incorrect.

Cooldown for Universal Potion is 30 seconds. FYI for those that say it's being 'spammed'. And I did try to use the pot again while it was in CD and it did say 'Cooling down'. So these folks have something else up their sleeves to restore HP to full.

Quoted from "Ziav"

Well then the person I watched spam SEVEN of these in a row must be the exception to the rule then. I'm sorry but when you can get back to full hp SEVEN times during a single encounter, ya that's a little unfair. So before all you people who have these keep talking about how those who don't need to just move on and give up asking for a level playing field, remember that when the tables are turned and YOU ALL are the ones qq'ing about something else in the future. I'm going to bookmark this thread so when that day comes I can tell all of you to stfu and throw this entire thread back in your faces and tell you its all fair.

How exactly do you know that they were using universal potions to heal? There's a couple plausible explanations that could explain being bumped to full health many times. The player in question could have been being healed by a healer under an invis tower or by a healer that wasn't in your field of view at the time. He could have very well been under the effects of the herald skill "Raise Morale" which is 5 full hp refills per sec for 5 seconds. He could have had a phoenix on. He could have had a combination of all 3 of the above explanations. There's probably even more possible reasons that can explain why this occured. I'm not saying he didn't use any of the potions, but what if he used one, and then healed up through other methods like the ones i provided.

I don't want say that him healing 7 times in one encounter isn't what really happened, but it is possible that you might be mixing/confusing something. I've done it before myself. Stuff happens pretty quick in siege and it's VERY easy to misinterpret/misjudge things and not remember them correctly. That's what happens when your in the middle of fighting. This is one reason why I record sieges. If I run into something that looks fishy, I'll go back and study the video and 95% of the time, I learn something new and tip my hat at the skill of my opponent.

I just wanna close by saying that even though I gave a lot of possibilities and explanations that could disprove your siege experience, I'll admit that everything I just said could be wrong and what you said could be 100% true. If that's the case, I hope that whatever the player did to achieve 7 universal pots in one encounter is corrected and the player receives appropriate disciplinary action. There is a particular player that I myself am suspicious of, and my suspicion would be further increased if the answer to my following two questions are yes.

Was this player you encountered from Reni?
Was it a Knight/Mage?