Runes of Magic US / AU

Rumor is a rumor until confirmed. Where did you hear this?

No link, still just a rumor.

O....kay. This would have been interesting to know earlier. Another fail by Gameforge. Getting less and less worth it to play this game anymore.

what? swap gold for diamonds for only 1 week?

oops, got it the wrong way around..... but it's still for 1 week.

I think you swap diamonds for gold. Not gold for diamonds.

So a return ter scammers, ter get rid o the spammers. Methinketh the players done gonner loser out on this one. Gain.

Quoted from "Jguy"

O....kay. This would have been interesting to know earlier. Another fail by Gameforge. Getting less and less worth it to play this game anymore.

Mainly the last sentence here. Killing the game slowly.

The exchange rate will vary from server to server. Why? So they are giving some servers more gold per diamond and some servers less gold per diamond. How is that fair?

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Cheers RoMmunity,

With immediate effect, you will not be able to trade diamonds via the auction house anymore. We have decided to go this step to balance the economy in the game and prevent Goldseller scam.

Instead, we are offering the possibility to exchange diamonds for gold by visiting Felix at the main square in Varanas. You can find him there from 28.01.2014 until 04.02.2014.
The exchange rate will vary from server to server.

Your RoM Team

Either:
Putting diamonds up in the auctionhouse is disabled while putting gold up is still enabled.

or you can't do either.

Owch.

It took us years to get diamonds in the AH...

And with how inflated prices are, it totally makes sense to pump more gold in the economy by offering players to sell diamonds to NPC's instead...

One step forward, 6 steps back...

it will be interesting. I think someone could probably check the AU server to see.

If gold can still be in the AH, then what is the point. If it is to stop gold spammers, how is letting them buy gold for (I am assuming) hacked/stolen diamonds, any better than letting them sell those diamond for gold...

The answer is ... no real difference. Unless Gold spammers isn't the real reason they are doing it, or if they disable both. Either way Diamonds were sold/bought after they were in the AH and before they were put back.

I honestly don't get this move. It is either going to work though or kill it. I don't think it will reduce diamond prices, it wont remove the massive amounts of gold on servers, and it wont make more people want to buy diamonds. Those that don't wanna buy diamonds aren't magically gonna start. Only thing that it will do is make people wanna buy more diamonds if they can get more gold for them from the NPC... but I doubt they would do that. If it makes diamonds harder to get for F2Pers.. well I don't know if that will pan out.

I am just confused all around. Just gonna have to wait and see.

I don't know if this applies to the other servers, but the players I know of on Indigo are really happy to see this.

First off, yes it is really inconvenient to not be able to buy dias off auction house. Its a nice feature. HOWEVER....

on Indigo, there are multiple players that buy up diamonds, only to resell them on AH for double what they paid (which was already overpriced) to desperate players or the gold sellers. Now buying and reselling happens all the time, and I agree it is a valid way to make a profit. But the result of this was diamond prices skyrocketing on indigo, and at least 1k dias per week going to BOTS not players. Most of my guild mates will sell diamonds to fellow guild members for 70-100k per diamond. To go to auction house and buy diamonds that have been posted, you need to pay a minimum of 250k....simple because of diamond resellers and the gold spammers inflating the price of diamonds. When posting gold (for diamond buyout) you're looking at a minimum of 125k per diamond, if not 150k+ -- 150k to compete with the resellers who are willing to spend way more then a "normal" price since they aren't going to eat any losses when they sell the diamonds purchased to bots for 300k per.

The "diamonds for gold trade" is so that current diamond buyers, those that spend real $, can still get instant gold that they enjoy now (currently via ah selling).

It will impact a variety of things, but as it stands, I am really glad to see this go. Prices on Indigo should stabilize, and that 1k dias being sold to botters/hackers/gold sellers should becomes much smaller if not zero, and more players can actually get dias for prices they can afford by selling items/potions...y'know the normal ways to make gold. Then hopefully we'll actually have people able to make new gear, instead of someone having to sell 30 pieces of gear at 1m a piece to get a mere 200 dias.

@ DKjester:
the issue are the Diamonds posted for gold buyouts. I can assure you that gold sellers are unable to generatte their own diamonds. Source? Indigo auction houses -- you can easily see gold sellers names pop up in history of Posted Diamonds-for-gold-buyout history, but none on the other side. Disabling only the Diamond for gold-buyout part would end this, and prevent or slow down gold sellers, and keep those pesky megaphone world shouts to a minimum. Yes they'll spam zone chats, but that's far less annoying then a world shout.

If gold is still able to be posted with diamond buyout, resellers won't be able to resell to botters, unless they personally contact them....which is hard since they are, well, bots. I can see this still posing a small problem, but it won't be as accessible to sell diamonds to the gold sellers without the auction. This means (imo) a small win for players and a loss to the botters, but probly won't 100% solve the problem. Step in the right direction I guess?

http://au.runesofmagic.gameforge.com/new…e-auction-house

Well i can't say i am disappointed in this, let's see what happens with diamond prices now and the extra gold on the servers.


Enjoy!!!

I don't find the reasoning to be logical and I doubt it is the real reason for this move. Behind every move usually is the company thinks they can make more money. I suspect this move will actually have the opposite effect, but I guess time will tell. If resellers was the goal and not spammers, there were better ways. Spammers were very prevalent during the no diamonds in AH period. I don't see this changing anything but making fewer people want to play. My opinion.

Quoted from "BlankMinded"

The "diamonds for gold trade" is so that current diamond buyers, those that spend real $, can still get instant gold that they enjoy now (currently via ah selling).

It will impact a variety of things, but as it stands, I am really glad to see this go. Prices on Indigo should stabilize, and that 1k dias being sold to botters/hackers/gold sellers should becomes much smaller if not zero, and more players can actually get dias for prices they can afford by selling items/potions...y'know the normal ways to make gold. Then hopefully we'll actually have people able to make new gear, instead of someone having to sell 30 pieces of gear at 1m a piece to get a mere 200 dias.

@ DKjester:
the issue are the Diamonds posted for gold buyouts. I can assure you that gold sellers are unable to generatte their own diamonds. Source? Indigo auction houses -- you can easily see gold sellers names pop up in history of Posted Diamonds-for-gold-buyout history, but none on the other side. Disabling only the Diamond for gold-buyout part would end this, and prevent or slow down gold sellers, and keep those pesky megaphone world shouts to a minimum. Yes they'll spam zone chats, but that's far less annoying then a world shout.

If gold is still able to be posted with diamond buyout, resellers won't be able to resell to botters, unless they personally contact them....which is hard since they are, well, bots. I can see this still posing a small problem, but it won't be as accessible to sell diamonds to the gold sellers without the auction. This means (imo) a small win for players and a loss to the botters, but probly won't 100% solve the problem. Step in the right direction I guess?

I hope you're right. Because "trade diamonds" seems to imply that both methods are going to be removed. If they only removed diamond selling but still allowed offering gold for diamonds, than I have no problems. I just don't want to go back to pre-diamonds-in-AH trade where you had to hope the other person doesn't scam you.

If diamonds are completely removed from the AH then I quit.

I completely refuse to put any more $$$ in this game with all the connection issues, lousy patches, mail/AH issues and general crap that's gone on!

Will the NPC have a absurdly low limit of like 5-15 diamonds per day like before? If so then why freaking bother! Oh wait it looks like you can only exchange diamonds for gold. Which is exactly the opposite of what is REALLY NEEDED!

It's true that the game desperately needs an effective gold sink. It's needed it for a long, LONG time. But what's the purpose of having 1.5bil+ gold like I do if I can't exchange it for diamonds when I want/need them? I can buy/farm gear & stats when I need them but not being able to buy IS items without putting in a bunch of $$$ then playing this game is completely pointless. Proves that this game is pay to win and only free to play if you want to waste your time!

On Reni many people that bought out diamonds to resell them at a higher price were called out repeatedly on it. Plus if it was something GF truly was concerned about it they should have the ability to keep tabs on that and deal with the offenders as needed if they wanted to. If the problem really was that bad then GF SHOULD have been doing that IMO!

And yes I'm completely aware you can still get IS items by having someone gift them to you. But you don't get rubies for that and that doesn't work for things like house energy, bank & backpack slot rentals either. Plus you are totally at the mercy of whomever else has diamonds when there is something on sale/special instead of having your own supply which YOU can use when YOU want to.

There was once a time when I was an active and avid buyer of diamonds. I still have a 3+ inch tall stack of Zeevex cards and probably 50-60 Adv pack codes left as well.

Of course it's completely typical of GF to NOT inform the players ahead of time about this as well!

If the GM's would do a more effective job at identifying and blocking gold sellers & diamonds resellers this wouldn't be necessary. To me it's like having the highway patrol close down an interstate because they can't control a few people speeding or driving recklessly. Yeah, that works well. Take the easy way out. Instead of doing more to combat the problem you just screw everyone instead!

Of course GF probably can't afford to keep a truly effective amount of GM's around since they're not really interested in making the game better, they just want to keep the sinking ship floating for a bit longer. And for a while I felt sorry for the GM's we have had. I always tried to attend the events they came to and thank them for being active in the game. Listening to the player base that's been screaming about things like SW times for practically years and finally taking some action on that recently was a good step. But one that was seriously overdue. Other games have come and then been shut down in less time then how long people have been screaming about that!

Whatever. I think I'm officially done here. Having the diamonds in the AH was something that IS NEEDED in order to keep a significant portion of the remaining population playing. Good job shooting yourself in the foot GF! May as well put the fire festival back in and kill SW again while you're at it!

I hope the game goes down in flames from here on. I may as well delete all my toons and uninstall at this point!

I of course can only guess what is going to happen. I am not sure how this will work. I am hoping for the better. I don't sell diamonds for gold, I don't buy gold for diamonds. I make gold IG by IG means and buy diamonds for RL money, usually at the rate of what it would cost for subs that we would be paying anywhere else.

I will venture to guess the limited time frame of the NPC is going to be either 1) they will analyze the situation every week and see if the situation is working or not and decide to continue it or not, or 2) They intend to only have the NPC there for a short period just to help people adjust to the system.

Yeah, we always had diamonds on AH. And always been at war with Eastasia.