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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 8:35pm

World Bosses

So in a game where the community is already divided enough, are we ever going to change how world bosses work?

A) they ruin the elite skill mechanics making the 60 elite a horrible pain
B)They split the server, making what few end game guilds we have fight to the death over them
C)They make gearing harder for non end game players who will never have a chance at world boss poms. The divide between end game and mid game just keeps growing, and no one is doing anything to stop it. That runs players off. Which we dont need with such low populations.

We cant afford to have world bosses that drop limited supply of POMs and only spawn once every 3 days that only end game guilds can kill that are needed for elites. Every thing in that sentence is wrong. Lets break it down. Poms are broken. 3 day spawn time is broken. Needed for elites is broken.

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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 9:29pm

Darwec ;-)

A- We killed 3 world bosses yesterday for people to get their 60 elites, world shouted it and people came and completed them, sure we had that rogue pop in go in hide and remove the person who was holding the body for it to disappear ;-( but to be expected because of who he is.

B- You can kill regular world bosses for the Proof of Valor

C- You know of us from Disturbed, we will run with good people, who are able to share, run stuff and be patient. Our loot rules for PUG's are simple, NEED for your main class in the instance, GREED everything else, simple and fair to all who are there. Just have to ask the right people on Reni Dar and we will run with you anytime ;-)

We won't 5 man hardmode, but we have enough competent people outside the 2 top guilds to run the hardmode stuff, people are just too afraid of the unknown lol. Worst that can happen? you will die, rinse and repeat till we get it right, simple enough.

As for the POM part, well, do a crafting rune for POM's event like last year and we would be good to go, worked awesomely last year, everyone could get them and it was well worth it. Ya some complained because they didn't have runes and blablabla, well stop vendoring and throwing them away, make alts and stack them there, pretty simple.

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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 9:32pm

+1 darwec...zid not so much...
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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 9:38pm

+1 darwec...zid not so much...

?? explain Cike?

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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 9:51pm

Because although you are helping the server, it dosent mean that poms arnt increasing the divide greatly. Ty for doing a service to the community zid, but the whole concept of how the world bossses work is flawed.

Poms ARE a broken mechanic, i haven met a single person who has said other wise, endgame or not.

The fact that elites are tied into the world bosses is one of the biggest gripes in the game other than diamond prices and bug fixes.

It is single handedly holding everyone back from gearing to what is considered acceptable endgame.

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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 9:59pm

Ya i do agree the pom's are pretty much broken i know, but the pom for rune fixed that for me. Also the pom, what is so great about it? orange stat that have 6 points more to attributes? a little more crit on gear when you can get OD etc. It's not a game changer, ya fully orange stated people look cool, but what do they really gain from it? +36 to attributes per piece of gear? will that make them solo Belathis? i don't think so, let them do a little more DPS than a fully yellow statted toon, yes, but truly not worth the pain and aggravation to get them by killing world bosses.

People should try to work together more and run stuff and stop losing their time complaining on the forums about what they could or want to have ;-).

We have awesome lower guild people who are just waiting to run hardmode stuff, i don't want them to join my guild, especially if they are already in an awesome guild, we just want to run stuff as a server and have fun, you know FUN!!!!

I don't care which guild people are in, just want to do stuff!!!!!

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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 10:04pm

A- We killed 3 world bosses yesterday for people to get their 60 elites, world shouted it and people came and completed them, sure we had that rogue pop in go in hide and remove the person who was holding the body for it to disappear ;-( but to be expected because of who he is.

not the case on most servers i have been on tbh...


B- You can kill regular world bosses for the Proof of Valor

yet the HM boss is the "default" boss...i'd rather see the normal boss respawn every 8 hours, with a chance at spawning a HM boss every 3 days...i know on pal some of the HM bosses are just left up because nobody really cares enough to kill them, and thus, elites are almost impossible to do, because there is no low lvl boss...

C- You know of us from Disturbed, we will run with good people, who are able to share, run stuff and be patient. Our loot rules for PUG's are simple, NEED for your main class in the instance, GREED everything else, simple and fair to all who are there. Just have to ask the right people on Reni Dar and we will run with you anytime ;-)

like i said, that is reni-specific...contrary to popular belief, reni is not the ONLY US server...

we have enough competent people outside the 2 top guilds to run the hardmode stuff

again, not the case on every server...

As for the POM part, well, do a crafting rune for POM's event like last year and we would be good to go, worked awesomely last year, everyone could get them and it was well worth it. Ya some complained because they didn't have runes and blablabla, well stop vendoring and throwing them away, make alts and stack them there, pretty simple.

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Poms ARE a broken mechanic, i haven met a single person who has said other wise, endgame or not.

It is single handedly holding everyone back from gearing to what is considered acceptable endgame.



also, one of the biggest issues imo, is this, which is also tied to your "point b":
The fact that elites are tied into the world bosses is one of the biggest gripes in the game other than diamond prices and bug fixes.





worked awesomely last year, everyone could get them and it was well worth it.

not really...all i saw was all the rich endgamers have a monopoly on PoM's, which is no different than what happens with WB's...
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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 10:14pm

Well Cike i speak for my server, i do not play on other server, everyone knows that i speak of what i know of where i play. You should know that by now.

BTW the crafted level 80 and 82 gear is awesome and more than capable of questing with it. Running instances also, people should try it and stop crying about not being able to get the hardmode gear. Our druid is gearing up on said gear, statting with the new stats and i can't wait to see her heals once all done, i made the gear OD, gave her a bunch of stats, others gave her plussing jewels etc, it is all about cooperation and trust within, i am sure she will rival in heals with an orange statted druid and not too far off.

When you have a bunch of people who can't play well on a server, well you get servers that dies. Luckily on Reni we do not have that problem and people have learned to play together and accept that we have our own morons, that happens everywhere and anywhere in life. Just gotta run with the people you can get along with, pretty easy.

BTW i am not a rich endgamer, i hoard the stuff i get for future usage or upgrades, people are too fast to vendor what they think is crap.

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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 10:34pm

Alternative solution: remove poms from the bosses body.
Change spawn times to once every 8 hours (random chance for easy or hard)
Add daily quests for both easy and hard kills.
1 hard kill = 1 pom as the quest reward per boss
4 easy kills = 1 pom as the quest reward per boss (meaning you have to kill a specific boss 4 times to complete that daily...meaning it could take a few days of easy mode kills)

also, i recognize that most easy bosses can be soloed, so i dont expect people to REALLY get poms off easy mode bosses. What it does do is give people more chances at poms (because it would spawn more frequently) and encourages people to work together (Everyone gets poms from a kill)

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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 11:12pm

I liked the way they made Krolin, it always spawns on easy, and you use an item on it to change it to HM. Imo, they should make world bosses like that too.

The recent Proof gear from the past 2 content updates has been pretty crappy though (at least for mage anyway), and not just because they're T5 base. new Chest doesn't even have Mdam ghost stat at all whereas old one and HM ones does, so its not really worth upgrading to.
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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 11:16pm

I liked the way they made Krolin, it always spawns on easy, and you use an item on it to change it to HM. Imo, they should make world bosses like that too.

The recent Proof gear from the past 2 content updates has been pretty crappy though 9at least for mage anyway), and not just because they're T5 base. new Chest doesn't even have Mdam ghost stat at all whereas old one and HM ones does, so its not really worth upgrading to.

for rogues i think it still the best belt, and second best pants. the other pieces are good, it comes down to personal preference. the stats still make a diff even if its a "small" one, it increases the gap. Typically, orange stats are 2 content patches ahead. So Orange hero stats are 2 patches better than Yellow Heros. An orange hero is essentially equivalent to a yellow remains stat.

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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 11:27pm

I liked the way they made Krolin, it always spawns on easy, and you use an item on it to change it to HM. Imo, they should make world bosses like that too.

I think this would be a great idea, tyvm Noble ;-)

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Saturday, February 8th 2014, 11:32pm

I liked the way they made Krolin, it always spawns on easy, and you use an item on it to change it to HM. Imo, they should make world bosses like that too.

+1
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

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Sunday, February 9th 2014, 12:02am

on palenque the parties i make normally world shout when dead for elites. Most of my groups are Pugs (yes pugs)with top 5 rolls getting 1 proof each. course Hackman we only do with 4 people so ... lol

as to respawn time currently on palenque spider respawns every 8 to ten hours no clue how it is on other servers(this is no matter which level of boss killed). Hackman though is screwy... he takes 4 days sometimes.

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Cike if your needing 60 elite now most days low level spider is killed between 730-830 am CST, and the 75 version is usually killed somewhere between 6-9 pm CST. one guild almost never announces though so depending who kills you need to keep an eye out for it.. This is every day.

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