I NEVER said we shouldn't criticize Gameforge. When they do something stupid, you can bet I'll be there screaming at them too. What I'm saying is that the few players that do come, we should encourage them to stay, not tell them to go. This game's population would probably be double of what it is now if we didn't send so many packing before they even downloaded this game.Gameforge did the right thing, a few times. Let's just say they had a thread with replies on what should be in the itemshop.
We got what we always wanted. 5x driller packs. Amazing. So they are asking as what we want (which may make the game more enjoyable for everyone) and just not reading / wanting to put it in. At no expense to them, at that.
It doesn't make sense. If we don't criticize, they won't get better. If they don't get better, they won't attract new players. We can't give them cuddles and love without criticism. Once the criticism goes unheard for months and months, people get upset. Once people get upset and we are told to stfu, we just leave.
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People can't do foods in GC. People can't do last boss GC. There are strats all over the internet. People can't do Tosh first boss. Strats all over. People cannot do KBN... strats all over the internet. People cannot even do first boss of bethomia. Strats all over the internet. These are guilds that have endgame gear. There are players around, in those endgame guilds, that have gear that is on the edge of insanity. clean t9 gear and t12 weapons. Still... unable to do simple raids or strategies unless pulled through an instance. This means that...
People either:
1.) Cannot play their class
2.) Cannot organize a raid
3.) Cannot do strats.
I have been in multiple guild runs (helping other guilds, etc) and they were extremely disorganized. No music, no siege war buffs, no raid organization. I've been in too many parties where melee dps stand back and do NO dps in melee range. Tons of w/m and r/m who decided to stand far away and DPS. If it takes this long for new content to come out because people can't be organized, then I see why so few guilds are JUST NOW completing beth, or attempting belathis (afaik, only 1 guild on artemis has been attempting belathis first).
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The more guilds, the more fun we can have. This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "ruisen2000" (Feb 18th 2014, 1:41am)

I just realized that this wasn't even supposed to be a discussion thread lol.i'm sorry, i don't have a point to make, but i would like to just say that there are very good points on both sides, and this forum actually looks like there are adults here for once...
in all seriousness, this conversation is great!
The things that drop in normal mode is junk... and more junk... Only the last boss has like a 10% chance to drop anything worthwhile.I guess, my question is, if you don't want the challenge of endgame, why do you want the gear so badly? What are you going to do with it if you don't want to move on to the next instance for, again, a challenge? What is the point? Epeen? If you want to stroke your epeen, overcome the challenge. That or pay out the arse for it.
If it's siege that you want it so bad for, there's PvP gear now, no? Stat that up even with IX and XII stats and you'll be better off than someone in full pve instance gear.
What do you need hardmode gear for if all you want it for is to stand around in Varanas doing minigames?
Do whatever floats your boat. If you like crafting, craft. If you like PvP, pvp. If you like minigames, do minigames. If you like to farm, farm. We like to challenge ourselves in endgame instances. That's what we, as endgamers, enjoy. Pushing ourselves to the bleeding edge. If that's not what you want, stick to easy modes and dip your toe into normals. I'm all for them making easy and normal easier if that's what it takes, but leave our hard mode challenge intact.
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