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Thursday, February 20th 2014, 5:22am

Too bad the new world boss only drop's 10 Proof of Myth's :( Was hoping it would drop 15 like the other world bosses did at same level.
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Thursday, February 20th 2014, 5:30am

All world bosses drops 5 POM's now Cammo ;-(

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Thursday, February 20th 2014, 6:45am

If you had read what I said, I said 'Like the other world bosses did at same level. Aka, When players were at lvl 72, world bosses droped 15....but I also thought about what I said and realised that statement is wrong, the other world bosses are lvl 75....and at lvl 75 we were getting 10 pom's per kill anyway.....so it's inline with the original world bosses anyway lol.

And if you were also saying even the new world boss drops only 5 poms, then you are wrong there because we downed it on Govinda and got 10 poms from it.
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Thursday, February 20th 2014, 10:05am

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The belathis quest join the fight you have to kill maderoth. There is ko way around it. There is another quest that you can complete if you hold the instance but its not related to morrok.
Yep, unfortunatelly it seems to be true. For the Morrok quest line you cannot just join after someone else cleared the instance. :(

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Thursday, February 20th 2014, 3:14pm

Ya we didn't drop the new world boss in guild and friends yet, hopefully this weekend ;-)

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Thursday, February 20th 2014, 4:26pm

I will tell everyone that BB made a very good video for Belathis where he explains the strats very well. A small group with one decent DPS should be able to follow the strat that PPK uses for hard mode and be able to succeed at doing it on easy. I might make a write up once we do it using his strats, video is a little long, and some times between boss strat explainations. However, it is very well explained. The strats also don't seem to be too hard, compared to ones in the past.

And man BB, do you have to turn down the graphics to not lag while streaming? Or is it more for graphics in the instance :P


I do agree I am on the side that it is a little much to require that for people to pass to the next set of quests. Just like how I am always arguing for the lower geared players (even though I don't consider myself low geared, maybe upper midgear)... this is a step in the wrong direction of making things attractive to newer/casual players. It will force people to go with groups that can clear it though... and may pull the community together.

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Thursday, February 20th 2014, 7:05pm

I agree with you DK but i think they really did it for people to stop skipping quests, ending up with : oh that freaking quest is broken, loll. And yes it will make people play more with each other and help out, always good for any server to be able to do that. :beer:

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Thursday, February 20th 2014, 10:42pm

How well will a person who does not care about instances go with this in quest gear?

Will they have to stand back doing nothing hoping they don't die while being carried through the instance. Which by the way is a very boring way of being in an instance. Or will the quest gear have them strong enough to at least pretend to participate?

Normally if someone asked me if a person would be useful in an instance in quest gear I would be tempted to laugh at them.

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Friday, February 21st 2014, 1:42am

If it was beth, there'd be no problem. Beth Easy is... well... pretty easy. Belathis, on the other hand, is not.

I don't think gear is that much of a problem in easy, honestly. Easy mode does not require top end gear - most midgame guilds should be geared enough for it. Hell, we did it with a nearly all mage party with no tank lol, and mages are pretty gimped in PvE DPS outside Beth compared to many other classes. Its the strat - its hard for people not used to doing strats and even harder with all the lag in the place. Just look at all the freaking 6 million animations from Manderoth that will kill your FPS faster than a R/M can kill you in siege, or the 10 million mobs that spawn in boss 4 in the laggy fire animations that already killed your FPS several times over.
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Friday, February 21st 2014, 3:09am

Quest Problem connected to Belathis Fortress and the easy mode situation:

- The quest "Joining the Fight" is part of the main quest line of the game.

- This quest requires a Maderoth kill in Belathis Fortress.
- This quest is mandatory to reach the new zone Wailing Fjord *and* have the majority of its quest unlock there. You can use someone else's portal to just reach the zone but then you won't be able to do most of the quests.

- The quest chain from "Joining the Fight" onwards is:

* My fellow warriors, the battle has finished
* Steps to the future
* Hidden Danger
* Warning of the Divine Messenger
* The Best Choice
* On the Rudder

* Weigh Anchor, Ailic's Pirates! -- this one is finally the quest that teleports to Wailing Fjord

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Another problem: While the old bug of the adds belonging to hard mode in bossfight#3 in easy mode has been fixed, it seems the situation is (still) the same as boss3, just for boss4 (Fire Elementals) and boss5 (Shield of the Trail) - those still seem to belong to hardmdoe. We've actually forwarded all of that yet again to RW and hope they can solve it this time. If it also includes a viable solution for circumventing the instance in that part, the better, but we don't know that yet, therefore no promises in that direction, just general information.

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Friday, February 21st 2014, 3:53am

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I don't think gear is that much of a problem in easy, honestly. Easy mode does not require top end gear - most midgame guilds should be geared enough for it. Hell, we did it with a nearly all mage party with no tank lol, and mages are pretty gimped in PvE DPS outside Beth compared to many other classes. Its the strat - its hard for people not used to doing strats and even harder with all the lag in the place.


I am talking people who are not geared and no instance experience. Blue quest gear with blue quest weapons and around 30k hp. No interest in gearing up and no interest in instances. I have no idea what that instance it like. The highest instance I have been in was gce and only up to the those stupid rabbits.

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Friday, February 21st 2014, 4:07am

No interest in questing and gearing up?? really?? wow

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Friday, February 21st 2014, 4:08am

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No interest in questing and gearing up?? really?? wow

yes, there are people who play this game for a wide variety of reasons...and not necessarily for the reasons you do...
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Friday, February 21st 2014, 4:16am

What point is there then? no quest, no instance, what do you do? stand pretty is nice clothing on Varanas bridge? i don't get it Cike at all, sorry but i don't :(

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Friday, February 21st 2014, 4:19am

zidlef what are you on about? I said nothing about 'no interest in questing'.

I said no interest in gearing and no interest in instances. So the people in question won't have the gear, the interest or the experience to do an instance.

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Friday, February 21st 2014, 4:22am

so wait? Boss 4/5 both have hard mode mobs in easy? Well that might explain the issues we are having with 5 atm. We did 1-4 after working some strats and ways to do it with just two of us... But we were wondering why we kept wiping when we almost had boss 5 dead. If there are hard mode mobs... that would explain it. Would also explain how I got hit for 300k dmg in 5 seconds during one of those add phases.

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Friday, February 21st 2014, 4:27am

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What point is there then? no quest, no instance, what do you do? stand pretty is nice clothing on Varanas bridge? i don't get it Cike at all, sorry but i don't :(
he never said no questing. he just said no instances...he really isn't that unique...i know a handful of people that are more content questing in quest gear than trying to pull gear/gear up for instances...

there is a difference...and it's a kick in the teeth that the main questline forces you into an instance...it would be kinda like crafters having to farm dailies for materials, instead of crafting nodes...it takes 2 completely different aspects of the game, and forces one into the other...
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Friday, February 21st 2014, 4:47am

Sorry i misread that, but still, damn. BTW Cike the new rare mats are only obtainable by gathering them, i have spend a few hours a day to get them to be able to craft stuff for guildies and friends ;-)

DK, yes the mobs are still hardmode mobs on those bosses ;-( but still doable

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Friday, February 21st 2014, 5:01am

with only 2 players it gets kinda hairy :P I mean I am sure it is doable. Will be easier when we hit 85. We have all of Sarlo if not more on all our characters, so we should be good :P

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Friday, February 21st 2014, 5:01am

zid, you completely missed my point...

imagine if one whole zone lacked raw material nodes, and all mats had to be obtained by doing special "crafting quests" or "crafting games"... that is kinda what the people who never saw the appeal of instances feel like with belathis being made a requirement for the main quest line...
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