Runes of Magic US / AU

Well for me , they should have made it a requirement a long time ago, want to reach a new zone, either do all the quests in that zone or/and do the instance in that zone on easy to complete to the next zone. I really don'T see any problem and why people are complaining about this. I think it was a smart move on Gameforge part and having people cooperating with each other to do it ;-)

I pride myself on soloing instances if I can manage. Beth/CoB/KBN easy all were do able with just 1 dps if it was good enough. Healer/dps, you are good. Belathis I think is a little nuts to require for moving to the next zone. if it was like Beth... that would be different.


I will bring up my shameless push for easier instances. Having just worked on it today.... I realize that the dmg I saw on my characters. I don't see a group of average players, succeeding. Now it is great if there are people helping each other... but it is just a little much.

In another game there were "instance" quests required to progress, but the dungs were doable solo if you were well geared and took your time/used strategy...

That is not the case. I see all the points people are making, and while it may not be bad thing to get people into instances.. but I see it will drive more people away, which is not what we need

Quoted from "Dkjester"

so wait? Boss 4/5 both have hard mode mobs in easy? Well that might explain the issues we are having with 5 atm. We did 1-4 after working some strats and ways to do it with just two of us... But we were wondering why we kept wiping when we almost had boss 5 dead. If there are hard mode mobs... that would explain it. Would also explain how I got hit for 300k dmg in 5 seconds during one of those add phases.

Boss 4 has adds that are from Hardmode. We got entire party to go full burn and pop serenstrum to burn him. Mobs disappear as soon as boss is down. For boss 5, boss will split into 5 bosses twice during the entire fight. Holy Shield is Trail is from hardmode - he doesn't attack. All he does is cast an AoE that hits for 75% of your HP and then goes poof or something. Other than that, everything else is easy mode.

Boss 5 has a huge amount of AoE's that hit for anywhere from 20k-120k, and a big hit that can hit for 200k. Its very healer intensive, so bring 2 healers if you can, unless you guys are all tanky.

Quoted from "Dkjester"

I will bring up my shameless push for easier instances. Having just worked on it today.... I realize that the dmg I saw on my characters. I don't see a group of average players, succeeding. Now it is great if there are people helping each other... but it is just a little much.

A party that has no clue about what they're doing in there will never clear it. Big TY to BB for posting strat guides for the instance. Took us 1.5 hours and 7 or so party wipes total before we cleared. Govinda PuG, Bela-E cleared (with quite a bit of luck) Tank couldn't find the colour buffs and just killed stuff at random, and by pure luck we killed bosses in VvV's colour order lol.

DPS requirement doesn't seem to be high. For boss 4 and 5, we burned each phase down in like 5 seconds. So bring less DPS and more healers... and use tanky buffs.

Haven't really been on much the last few days due to RL issues. Here is my thought on this...

You: OMFG THEY ARE MAKING ME ACTUALLY TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE AND GO DO SOMETHING WITH THEM! MY WORLD IS ENDING! I HAVE TO COOPERATE WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN AN MMORPG!!!! WHY CAN'T I SOLO THIS MMORPG?!!?!?

Me: For those of you who have missed it, MMORPG stand for Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. RoM is an MMORPG. You might want to get clued in by the part where this is a multiplayer game...

You: BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD TO DO THIS BEFORE!!

Me: Yep. Welcome to the new way RoM is doing things. Apparently they want you to play this game with other people. WOAH! Mind blown.

You: BUT I HATE INSTANCES AND DON'T GET ANYTHING BEYOND BLUE GEAR WITH NO STATS!

Me: Then why do you need to worry about the questline at all? You can get to level cap in blue gear with a port from someone to the new zone. Do what quests you can, and do dailies. You are obviously in no rush to be max level, and it doesn't really matter if you ever reach it since you won't be running instances anyways.

You: I HAVE PUT ZERO MONIES INTO THIS GAME AND I AM A TOTALLY F2P PLAYER AND THIS ISN'T FAIR TO ME TO BE FORCED TO DO ANYTHING WITH OTHER PEOPLE! THIS IS OBVIOUSLY CATERING TO THE P2P PLAYERS! SO UNFAIR!

Me: You have given nothing to this game and want to whine that they don't give a squat about you? You want to complain about unfairness, guy who sits and leaches connection from a great game that you can't even bother to properly support? Alanis Morissette could learn a thing or two from you about irony.

I'm pretty sure I covered everything here. If I missed any complaints, I can show you how wrong you are as well if you really need me to. Just say something else stupid and I will get to you shortly.

After reading that rant I am wondering what is so wrong about the idea of playing this game and not being interested in the instances? Never knew it was a requirement to do instances to interact with other people.

Ghostie's rant tis ter cause yer ta desire ter play wit him. Scary, aye?

No problem with questing going through instance, no problem with playing with other people (tbh if i am not around chatty fun people that talk about every shit possible to discuss - this game bores me to hell), but my problem is that bela on easy ain't that easy.... i would expect it to have some bugs but what ruisen tells us is a bit disappointing and also, the difference from betho to bela is kinda too much. But again even Betho easy has some bugs from i recall (last boss - monkey swarm for ex).
If you want "to fly solo" - there a lot of RPG on the market atm that really worth it (witcher, skyrim, dishonored etc etc).

First; I am in a guild that easily can run groups through Bela to get the quest done. They, those peeps, will not enjoy the run. The run is pure fail for what RW change envisions. Trash is way to difficult, wear your pvp gear to do hard mode as the trash there will randomly kill you otherwise.

Now lets look at this from another prospective huh... How about the requirement you have a level 80 profession to progress. Add that to the quest line. From some of the forums T's here that is what they want.

Reality bites and what we are seeing is less not more people back in the game with this patch. They are playing the other guys game which did not do this blunder. They came and left again.

AND how about after 3 more cap increase patches when the run is old and still "hard". Who will go back and run people through it then. It adds a permanent block progression that only gets worse with time.

Wall o Text incoming.

Almondnut hit the point that I was making. While I know I will manage to beat the instance... and learn how to do it consistently. Heck I am even writing/videoing my runs to show people how it can be done by 1-2 players and how we are doing it. But the problem is that later on people wont be able to progress past it. Very few people even do their RT/KT quests... now what if that was required to level past that?

Every change from the status quo that RW/GF makes has 3 possibilities: 1 more people come back/join, 2) everything stays the same or 3) people quit and don't come back

I cant see how this will excite new players, or entice old players to come back. So it is either gonna be that nothing is gonna change with the population or people are going to quit. Now I have already seen people quitting over this...

Here is where I bring my normal thing up.. we can PERSONALLY think it is good, and like it... doesn't mean it is good for the games community.

Now Everyone (from my other thread) doesn't want a P2W game, they don't want elitists, they don't want wallet warriors etc. Well a change like this does exactly that. The only ones playing will be the ones that have put time/money into the game and no new player will like that idea so why even start. We have so many other complex problems in this game, with the economy and all (which affects me less than others)....

Now a dungeon- which in my opinion is harder than the previous easy modes is REQUIRED to casually play the game. There is the key your CASUAL player isn't gonna sit around all day and hope for a run, they aren't gonna be able to spend the time to gear up decently enough to run it with their own group. RIP Casual players. So if you all like ghost towns, then this is a good idea.

RW, I think, is slowing programming this game into the ground. It isn't GF's Fault, they are at the hands of RW, and from what I have seen in interviews they have a really big "it is our game, we do it our way" mentality..... which I bet drives GF nuts cause they want us as players happy. Now GF has its own problem that I agree with that diamonds should be cheaper with RL money, and that is completely in GF's control. However, when you have the game programmers breaking elite skills, breaking quest lines, not able to fix memory leaks, designing lame new content, etc etc.... There isn't much then can do.

Now ill say again, with Ruisens info we probably will clear it today with 6 of our 9 chars that will need to get past it, but that isn't the point. If you guys like ghost towns... prepare for more, because this wont bring new players, it WILL drive old players away... Whether we think it is a good idea or not. Cause I can stand on my soap box and say "I think it is good, you gotta do some work to progress"... which I do think personally... I just know it wont be good for the game

Ghost as usual you hit it on the nail again. As for people coming back and leaving again, well i couldn't care less really, let them play a game with 10X XP/TP all the time, where hacks are allowed in instances etc, what sense of accomplishment can you have in that? NONE. There is still people hacking here but getting caught every day.

People play together, are nice to each other, help each other and more will come, all about the community

And Lemon i am not scared of Ghost, he's in guild and TS, he actually is very nice (insane) very helpful ( takes all our diamonds), always there to give aa hand ( tearing your other one while you are not watching), funny ( yes i was forced to say that), calm ( he would beat me with his stick till i bled) overall a gentleman ( unless he sets me on fire again) LMAO

zidlef don't take the fact we do not agree with RW's decision as we can not play with others.

Unlike you we do care and don't post just for post count...

Quoted from "Dkjester"

Heck I am even writing/videoing my runs to show people how it can be done by 1-2 players and how we are doing it. But the problem is that later on people wont be able to progress past it.

So we'll finally know who you are in game? Woot!


Gear requirement for Bela-E is really no more than gear requirement for Beth-easy.


Skill requirement for Bela-E is more than skill requirement for Beth-H. Its the only easy mode in the game where you need healers that actually know what they're doing, tank that actually know how to tank well, and DPS's that can coordinate and do strats. If they suck as a tank or healer... that will show very quickly. If you just try to burn stratless... you'll get one-shot. If you screw up a strat, you'll get one-shot. Its the most punishing easy mode instance in the whole game. Ofc, you get a huge sense of accomplishment when you actually clear it, which is nice...

im ok with the change as long as the servers stay up That is the long and short of my feelings


Unfortunately I don't see anyone being as nice as Zids group on Artemis though... and I don't think I should have to join certain guilds to quest.. Cause they certainly wont help us if we aren't in their guild...


Now if I get it down ill probably start running people through it.

Well, if the morrok line is ending, then it won't be a huge problem. People can just grind to level cap for this zone and quest for the next level caps. But if Morrok line is going to go for another 10 zones... this is going to be a problem. Because its not that people don't have the gear. Even if they're level 100 they won't be able to do this unless they can do strats.

we are just gonna give it another try when we hit 85. we got all sarlo, plus our zodiac pets, so just the 3 levels will reduce how much dmg we take. I don't see 100k and 200k aoes... not gear intensive though. Even 70% hits... Little rough for an easy. Now if that is hard mode mobs... cool, that hopefully will get fixes. But a possible 200k aoe or even 120k AoE is a little much for the average player to expect to live through.


yeah never cared just didn't see a reason to broadcast it I mean I sit ... around the 50 mark on the ma.attk list, gf is like 65 on the pa.ttk list and her tank is like 36 on stam list. I am surprised no one has guessed it yet, base one we are a small guild and we are in the rankings That and they probably have seen us running around with our army in tow


HOLY MOLEY off topic but they cleaned up the rankings!!! Now all those hackers are gone, and a lot of the people on perma vacation are gone. I am WAY higher than I was

Gfs tank is in the top 20 now, and with no pet, title nothing my mage is in the top 50, and gf's scout is in the top 40 with nothing All our healers and second string characters are in the listings too. Maybe it is just cleared till people log in though.

Quoted from "Dkjester"

we are just gonna give it another try when we hit 85. we got all sarlo, plus our zodiac pets, so just the 3 levels will reduce how much dmg we take. I don't see 100k and 200k aoes... not gear intensive though. Even 70% hits... Little rough for an easy. Now if that is hard mode mobs... cool, that hopefully will get fixes. But a possible 200k aoe or even 120k AoE is a little much for the average player to expect to live through.

Manderoth does a big hit that hits a random person. It hit our tank for 45k, but hit the Scout for 200k. For some reason, it has like a 99% chance to hit Scout lol.

I'm thinking since Holy Shield of Trail AoE is % based, only his HP and defense values will change when he is scaled to easy. It'll probably still do a 70% hit.

All yall are crazy. Why you writing novels instead of being in game leveling mains and alts?

*Rusty reads a few novels* I liked Ghostwolf one.

Even if you can't get the questline, level up your toon a bit, that will help it survive.. Level 84 is doable on available quests, apparently, since we have people who need Bela run and are L84 already. And no, they haven't spammed daily resets.

Bela becomes a lot easier at higher levels. Where we needed a full party to do bela h we now only need 5 or 6 to do at least 1-4 (5th is still a bit.ch.. need a lot of heals).

Well DK i understand what you are saying, but having to be in a guild to be able to get stuff done is pretty sad DK ;-(. Those people who do that is only to control the economy of their server and the people, pretty sad people, but they have to find control where they can i guess, since it is probably the only place they can get it at ;-( sad, so very sad.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Well DK i understand what you are saying, but having to be in a guild to be able to get stuff done is pretty sad DK ;-(. Those people who do that is only to control the economy of their server and the people, pretty sad people, but they have to find control where they can i guess, since it is probably the only place they can get it at ;-( sad, so very sad.

Doesn't that pretty much apply to most instances in this game? If you're a lowbie, you're going to have to be in a guild to get dragged through HoS/HoDl/ZS, etc. for the most part, except for the rare PuG groups.

Not sure how you can control the economy just by being able to proceed with the quest line. Am i supposed to sell quest gear from quests after Bela-E for 500m each? Dear Govinda, I demand to control you all, because I have access to 82+ quest gear!! lol