Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "ruisen2000"

Doesn't that pretty much apply to most instances in this game? If you're a lowbie, you're going to have to be in a guild to get dragged through HoS/HoDl/ZS, etc. for the most part, except for the rare PuG groups.

Now sure how you can control the economy just by being able to proceed with the quest line. WTS quest gear from quests after Bela-E for 500m each?

i had the same questions ruisen...

Well not on Reni, people do not have to be in a guild to get help, we will help people, let them decide if they like the game and then choose wich guild they want to join or even make their own. It all comes down to enjoy the people you play with.

zid, thats kinda the case on most servers i've been on...

Quoted from "zidlef"

Well for me , they should have made it a requirement a long time ago, want to reach a new zone, either do all the quests in that zone or/and do the instance in that zone on easy to complete to the next zone. I really don'T see any problem and why people are complaining about this. I think it was a smart move on Gameforge part and having people cooperating with each other to do it ;-)

I know a boat load of people that if this had been the case as far back as HoTo they would have left the game a long time ago. I've not seen a recent MMO that has a requirement to be able to run instances in ANY mode to enjoy the entire questline, including the main questline. I'm not saying this is bad that they did this this time; I hope it does not become a repeat occurrence or I can see the population dwindling even farther down into the toilet. It would have been better if the instance wasn't:
A) Still broken. There are still HM mobs spawning in EM instances.
B) Laggy as all get out.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Well not on Reni, people do not have to be in a guild to get help, we will help people, let them decide if they like the game and then choose wich guild they want to join or even make their own. It all comes down to enjoy the people you play with.

Ahem. If I may interject.

Some on this VERY THREAD have told you countless times that just because you don't see a problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You sir, have made a false statement. Some in this thread might have known what guild I used to be (not naming it) but getting ANY runs while I was in that guild was next to impossible just because of the folks I associated myself with. I left that guild and joined another and bam, runs and requests for tanks left and right. My friends list grew by at least 20 people, some even from Disturbed. Just the other day I was able to get into Beth NM as a sub-tank and was extremely grateful because I'm extremely gimped. I don't know nor have ever been to the last boss in GC Norm. The farthest I've ever gotten in GC Hard was first boss. The highest elevated difficulty instance I've been able to to run was RT Norm start to finish with just guildies or ex-guildies, JUST because of the guild I was in (and we're all max level with decent gear, some better than others). As such, I have no idea of the strategies, how to tank properly or what exactly I'm doing half the time in the higher instances. I toss some aggro pots and hope to hell I'm not the fault for getting anyone killed. I've been extremely grateful from some people explaining to me some of the issues with my rotations or what I might be doing wrong.

As mentioned, just because you don't see a problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist, zid. Prove me wrong, please.

Well if we think about it if you want that old instances to be run by both new and old, mid and end game geared players, GF has to create incentive to do those runs for everyone, and ofc to be optional. A option would be to create dailies for all dungeons that have a reward which would catch the interes of every player. Ofc running HoTo by a 85/85 is faily easy, but i am sure he will be willingly to ask in zone if anyone else needs it everyday since the reward is not drop related but a quest reward. They could do this at least for dungeon 55 ~ 80 (since we will have new 85 dungeon). Also i think for dungeons 72/75/77/80 Runewanker should reconsider and add back set skills....

Well Jguydo like us, go to youtube, watch the videos that people are nice enought to put up there for strat and all. We do it all the time and then try it out ;-)

My 2 cents: I believe the bigger issue is not whether you agree or disagree with the instance requirement to complete the quest. The bigger issue is that there are enough people who do disagree with it that it has the potential to cause a rather significant shift of players towards other MMORPGS . With server populations already seeming to be on the decline this just doesn't bode well for the community.

Personally I like the idea of tying the quest into the instance because I would like to see more raiding activity on my server. That said, I understand and respect others who do not enjoy that aspect of the game and I don't feel they should be penalized for their gaming preference.

I will add a +1 to Tuulikki also. Great post.

Side note; level 90 and up planters get all the highest level gathering mats you can use. Need Bloodpalm? Change your planting pots to wood for a day and then gather both the Nadal and it the next. Next day do the Herb pots and you have the mats for a few pieces. To keep those pots when not in use your housekeepers have 10 (ten) slots which hold all 10 pots. Two housekeepers will hold all the pots you are not using at the moment.

Nicest part of this is you did not have to run instances to reach level 90 planting. The game nor the player did not suffer. Everyone wins. you are not making any points here Zid. Even the oranges see what we say.

mmh Almond?? If they would have made it so to get any of my craft to a higher level and had to run an instance, well i would have done it. One thing that people seems to forget , this game was not made to get to the end in a month. It's a long process for everything to be obtained, you put time and effort in it and you feel rewarded. Do you think you can level your crafting in any type within a month? good luck with that, ya easy to get to level 82/82 or 85/85 by powerleveling and doing the main quest line only. But here is the catch, the new zone makes you go in an instance on easy and people are crying about it.

Mommy i want it NOW!! ouin ouin ouin!!!! i don't want to work for it


This game is not PvP only, that happens an hour a day for me, good for those who like that aspect of the game. BTW one planter is not even enough to make 1 piece of gear per day, if you would be a crafter you would know that. The special high end mats have to be gathered for hours. 2 hour of gathering in Sarlo and the new zone, gets you enough materials to make 2 pieces of gear, might not be OD also. Don't talk about what you do not know Almondnut.

Gear up, do your quest and play the game as it was intended to be played. :growup:

Quoted from "zidlef"

This game is not PvP only, that happens an hour a day for me, good for those who like that aspect of the game.

ok, how about u needed to pvp 100 times before getting to the new zone? morrok had a string of quests that were pvp based? how much would u like that zid? same concept for people who don't really care for instances...

I like this idea Cike... let's get explore it.

For the next patch, players must have legendary (80+) in planting, a gather skill, and a craft skill in order to progress.

The following one requires players to have all siege titles to progress.

The next one requires to have all titles from the minigames... including Ancient Treasure in Steppes.

The next requires having all 13 legendary zodiac pets...


It's part of the game... clearly RW should force people to do it, even if they don't find that particular aspect fun, right?

Quoted from "Purre"

I like this idea Cike... let's get explore it.

For the next patch, players must have legendary (80+) in planting, a gather skill, and a craft skill in order to progress.

The following one requires players to have all siege titles to progress.

The next one requires to have all titles from the minigames... including Ancient Treasure in Steppes.

The next requires having all 13 legendary zodiac pets...


It's part of the game... clearly RW should force people to do it, even if they don't find that particular aspect fun, right?

exactly...i shud go put this in the suggestion box...

* hides suggestion box from cike

Quoted from "Purre"

I like this idea Cike... let's get explore it.

For the next patch, players must have legendary (80+) in planting, a gather skill, and a craft skill in order to progress.

The following one requires players to have all siege titles to progress.

The next one requires to have all titles from the minigames... including Ancient Treasure in Steppes.

The next requires having all 13 legendary zodiac pets...


It's part of the game... clearly RW should force people to do it, even if they don't find that particular aspect fun, right?

I need to start working on my zodiac pets, 5 more then I am good to go.

Why all the surprise that different people don't have the same interests and may be content with something other than running instances?

There are people that enjoy questing, have no interest in instances and after just enough gear to quest. Not every one cares about instances or having massive hp. I know I am not unique in logging in to do a bit of questing, helping a couple of guild mates quest and maybe just use rom as a 3d chat room for a bit.

So with this change myself and others will be just dead weight dragged through an instance just to continue questing. Having a party member who is not geared for an instance, does not care about the instance, does not know anything about the instance is no fun for anyone.

Zidlef... you get 10 plants a day with each having the possibility of a planks worth of any of the rare mats each a day.

Last I looked you have 8 available slots for chars on each account and there is no level requirement for planting.

Not only do we get the mats for a piece a day but all our food, that of our friends, our potions, their potions with some left over.

But back to the original topic. Is it good for RW to put a ring through our noses and then to try to make a horse drink after being led to water.

No nor is it good for you to say we must do it your way. This is a multifaceted world with many possible outcomes the player chooses. Not me and surely not you.

Quoted from "jopdog"

Why all the surprise that different people don't have the same interests and may be content with something other than running instances?

i have no idea...some people around here have thick skulls...

Quoted from "jopdog"

I know I am not unique in logging in to do a bit of questing, helping a couple of guild mates quest and maybe just use rom as a 3d chat room for a bit.

no, your not. i know many people like this...

Quoted from "jopdog"

Having a party member who is not geared for an instance, does not care about the instance, does not know anything about the instance is no fun for anyone.

exactly...



all in all, a +1 post...

Quoted from "Almondnut"

1- Zidlef... you get 10 plants a day with each having the possibility of a planks worth of any of the rare mats each a day.

Last I looked you have 8 available slots for chars on each account and there is no level requirement for planting.

Not only do we get the mats for a piece a day but all our food, that of our friends, our potions, their potions with some left over.

But back to the original topic. Is it good for RW to put a ring through our noses and then to try to make a horse drink after being led to water.

No nor is it good for you to say we must do it your way. This is a multifaceted world with many possible outcomes the player chooses. Not me and surely not you.

#1 is false, at level 91.7 planting you can only get the blues if you are lucky as hell of the Blood palm tree, ironaxe ore and the herb. As far as i know at that level you cannot have a plank drop at all.

The passing through Belathis Fortress, well suck it up and do it, stop the whining, get help and do it. You have to go into it and finish it, OMG!!! you can QQ for 100 pages it won't change a thing.

I truly hope that every new zone that opens up gets the same requirements to get to it, easy is easy mode no matter what. Learn to play with others and get it done, it'S not that complicated, but if you have been mean, rude, a jerk, greedy unhelpful person on the server you been playing on , then ya you might have a problem to finish it and finding help, what goes around comes around, it is called KARMA.

BTW we got 9 more people on the server through Belathis today again, a little at a time, Disturbed has been helping others since 2009, it
works, people should try it more often.

QQ away won't change a thing

Quoted from "zidlef"

QQ away won't change a thing

*cough* iceblade *cough*

sorry, just a tickle in my throat...maybe i shud get a glass of water...




seriously zid, pages of direct replies to stuff you posted and all you reply to is an issue not even really relevant to the discussion?

today I saw the reason I don't like this change.


Someone in world offering 500 diamonds just to be run through it so they could do their quests. This was after he had no luck asking for the last 24 hours for a run through it.

Before offering diamonds he asked if he could pay gold... and someone told him 600million......


maybe Artemis just really has the worst population.

Almost to cap at least and then we will see if we cant start running poor souls like that.