Runes of Magic US / AU

Damn DK that is justplain wrong ;-((

Had same on EU servers also. People offering gold and diaminds. Kinda sad tbh. People on our server that have the gear to clear it can't even do it due to lack of skill
. all in all though I like the idea if bringing it into an instance

yeah my gf and I were all sad. So Now we are trying to get the 5 chars we are gonna use to run it to 85 to make it easier, and then start taking people ourselves. Questing on Dual P/Ks... so feels like scooping your eyes out with a pitchfork.

Quoted from "zidlef"

I agree with you DK but i think they really did it for people to stop skipping quests, ending up with : oh that freaking quest is broken, loll. And yes it will make people play more with each other and help out, always good for any server to be able to do that.

Well you must be on a much nicer server than Artemis, where we have all the arses No helping each other out or playing together at all unless you're in one of the big guilds.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Well Jguydo like us, go to youtube, watch the videos that people are nice enought to put up there for strat and all. We do it all the time and then try it out ;-)

Congrats Zid, you once again missed the point entirely of someone's post.

Luck does not play into it Zid. Numbers do...

Now you got 9 peeps through. Wow congratulations.

How many does that leave on your server and how soon will your peeps tire of "someone killed the yellow out of turn again" or "who didn't silence the red"

The points you aim at are moot.

Some people were made to raid. Most are not and do not. Some once again have quit the game with this change.

End of story. Next....

Well Almond, as i said, if you can read my post properly, 9 TODAY, a few the day before and so on, we run people everyday for them to get it done for all of them. As of now we got like 40 people through there, we do not lose our minds because we died by helping people out, we rex out and we do it again till they got it done. Ya those that think they can burn everything are so mistaken in Belathis loll, but that is why you lay off the Redbull, the caffeine and the drugs, relax and take the time it takes to get them through and also explain to them how to do it, so they can return the favor to other people, hence then more people will be helping others do it, do you get my point now Almond? This is how we do things in Disturbed and most good guilds on Reni!!!! You should try it, it actually works.


Ya big guilds on our server charges gold and diamonds to run them through, they are just being stupid and greedy. A lot of big guilds pulled stunts like that since i have been here and they are all gone, people are getting tired of that attitude. Everyone should be allowed to have their own guild and play with the people they like, make PUG groups and help out, worked and still works for us.

Ack... I interrupt playing and leveling and I see people still being silly... Well, then, I say this call for musical interlude

I am the very model of the Runes of Magic player base
I will complain excessively even though I have no case
I'll rant and rave on the forums in the ways that are not readable
Till everyone agrees my mental state is hardly treatable

I'll make a lot of points that aren't very comprehensible
I'll claim that I can see no sense in features that are sensible
And while to common sense my rantings might be a disgrace
I am the very model of the Runes of Magic player base

Ummm.... where was I?

Oh, right... This is one of the easiest zones I have seen. If you can't run Belathis at all, you can get close to 85 on non-quest-chain quests alone, after being ported there by guildies or anyone else who periodically opens portal there. Then with higher level and typical 4 month between zones, you have plenty of time to get together a party that can actually successfully complete easy mode.

the point still stands...not everybody even WANTS to go inside ANY instance...


if they don't like the direction the game has forced them to go, then they leave.


we can't afford more players leaving.


it's that simple.

Rustyx has made the case and closed

Cike if people leave because they can't do instances on easy, well i wonder why are they here? Instances are part of the game and moving forward.

Pshaw. Game is not a free form "I do whatever I feel like it". It has structure, goals and challenges, and those are set by game design and not the players. If the challenge is not unreasonable (like this one is not), then not being able to meet it is L2P.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Cike if people leave because they can't do instances on easy, well i wonder why are they here? Instances are part of the game and moving forward.

i think, you are missing a large part of the picture zid(for the umpteenth time this thread)...

this thread was supposed to address some of the issues people are struggling with here. obviously it was not successful.

this game is not solely built to cater to you zid...nor is it built to cater to rusty....nor is it built to cater to me. for a while now(pretty much it's entire life), the game has been about options, and that is really one of the best parts of this game. the excessive options. when GF takes away the options(say, to NOT raid/do instances/dungeon), it not only excludes a part of it's player base, but it forces players into something they may not play this game for. zid, imagine if pvp was mandatory(heck, make crafting mats exclusively arena rewards, we can start there). how would you feel about this game then? all the people that happen to like pvp what just say "whats the big deal? it's just a little pvp? it's not too bad..." exactly like you are saying to the people who do not like instances. zid, throw around all niceties you want about helping people blah blah blah, but the fact is, people are leaving. people may not want to get dragged through and instance so they can continue questing. merging completely different aspects of this game, and making 1 mandatory for the other is pointless. it will just push people away from the game even faster. without options, this game loses really the only advantage it has over other mmo's.


all i can say is: have fun playing by yourself. because obviously you don't care about others opinions, and when they feel they don't belong, they leave.

"agree with me or gtfo" - thats really all i see in most of these posts...and it's a great stance, if ur a cult leader or a dictator.






@rusty: yes it does have goals, it does have challenges. but not everybody wants to experience ALL the challenges. are you a card collector? trying to get most quests completed? titles? if not, apparently ur playing the game wrong, because thats a challenge in the game that you're not striving for.

Sorry but the requirement to finish the Morrok line and run an instance is just a sad pathetic attempt to make them meaningful parts of the game again. The Morrok line was a total failure time and time again it was broken when quests were released bugged most people could not be bothered to go back and pick it up months later when they finally got around to fixing them . Most people just dumped it and continued the game without it and have no idea where they left it. The concept you have to go to your titles to find out when or where you left the quest line is totally absurd when most people don't even know which zone to look in.
The same is true for instances some have degenerated into a set of silly games to kill bosses that now more resemble a Super Mario game than a MMORPG. Very few people do instances and this is not going to get any more to do instances it is far more likely to get them to quit the game.
It is just sad that they had to make the Morrok quest line and instances mandatory instead of making them worthwhile and fun to play for everyone. Once again Gameforge has proven to always take the lazy way out instead of doing some work to make the game better.

Quoted from "Cike"

@rusty: yes it does have goals, it does have challenges. but not everybody wants to experience ALL the challenges. are you a card collector? trying to get most quests completed? titles? if not, apparently ur playing the game wrong, because thats a challenge in the game that you're not striving for.

So, what exactly is insurmountable challenge here? Getting to level cap? Easy. Getting to new zone? Easy. Getting to unlock all the quests? Yep, that needs a bit of team work and power progression. Teamwork and power progressions are staples of MMORPGs.

And if you decide that some challenges are beyond your capabilities, then don't do them, the way I don't do most festivals or collect titles or cards or run arena.

Quoted from "vfwiffo"

So, what exactly is insurmountable challenge here? Getting to level cap? Easy. Getting to new zone? Easy. Getting to unlock all the quests? Yep, that needs a bit of team work and power progression. Teamwork and power progressions are staples of MMORPGs.

yes, but making teamwork and power progression an aspect of part of the game that never required it to begin with is just silly. how about we put monster cards as random drops from gathering nodes instead of dropping off of mobs...see what i did there? i took 2 completely different aspects of the game and forced one upon the other. same thing applies here.

my point is that the separation between most aspects of the game is really what makes RoM special. you cross those lines and it's not RoM anymore. it's just another MMORPG(and an expensive as heck one at that)...


also, the ability to "choose your fate" is another hallmark of MMORPGS's...that doesn't mean you need to be obsessed with running instances day and night...


personally, i have no qualms about the instance being part of the quest line. the problem i see is the people brushing off those who actually care(for good reason imho) about it as "whiners"...if they are quitting over it(and more than 1-2 people) then it deserves to be heard as a legitimate concern.

Case closed. lol I believe we would not have +16 gems in the game if everything Vwiffo said meant case closed. Or maybe people forget how he told all the dissenters about the +16 gems in gashas only, that basically they were not bright enough to realize they were trying to take +16 gems out of the game.

Cike is right on this issue. My opinion. The Morrok quest line is the basic quest line for leveling. It does not need to go through an instance. People are not magically joining the game now because it does. Apparently, some are quitting. It simply was a bad move, for the player base and ultimately, for the company also.

Pink Hat... the challenge is keeping the player base.

You are your friend Zid here seem to forget that. To aim for just the opposite actions.

Not like you have much support here for your cause.

Even GF has asked RW to make a change. We truly are lucky the new run is not active. If it was many more would quit.

Reading all the posts you are quickly losing face here.

Quoted from "Almondnut"

Even GF has asked RW to make a change. We truly are lucky the new run is not active. If it was many more would quit.

You make much sense. If the new instance was open, all the people who wanted to run the new instance would quit in protest. And the reason is because they just hate the idea that in order to get to run the instance you have to get to new area, and to get to new area*, you have to run instance. I tell ya, those instance runners are just making way too much sense.

Rest of post snipped on account of way too much silliness.


* Yes, I know it is not required. Work with me here, people

No... pinky; they, those can run Bela, would be doing the new run.

Learn to read huh...

Might be about time to close this thread.

We have two people who like the change and are now just trolling and the rest of us who see major problems with it.

GF has enough public comment to make their decisions.

I don't see why they can't have a few quests with 5x XP of normal quests for instance runs, and have the main questline instance free. Those that want "challange", you get your super-XP quests. Those casuals that don't want to run anything, you can keep on questing.