Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "ruisen2000"

I don't see why they can't have a few quests with 5x XP of normal quests for instance runs, and have the main questline instance free. Those that want "challange", you get your super-XP quests. Those casuals that don't want to run anything, you can keep on questing.

agreed...

while instance quests are relatively higher XP, it's not quite 5x...yet...

The point I think several people have made in this thread that few have not even paid attention to or perhaps didn't even read is simple:

It's NOT (and I REPEAT NOT) the fact that people CAN'T do the instances....it's the fact that some people DON'T WANT to do the instances. That's what makes this game special to several people, as Cike has mentioned. There are practically LIMITLESS customizations for your character look and stats, with costume settings (5 of them) several SEVERAL actual costumes...how you play the game can be customized. Up to this point, there has NEVER been a case where you HAD to run an instance to progress in a questline (maybe to end one, but never to progress).

While a few in this thread might think this is all hunky dory, I know several people (myself included) that are considering quitting as we have our own play style. Yes, a MMO stands for Massively Multiplayer Online, but at the same time, RPG stands for Role Playing Game, which usually allows you to play however you wish, down to and including simply sitting in your house and chatting with friends and casually leveling up a toon or two.

I assure you, while it might seem "stupid" or "lame" to some people on this thread of folks saying they'll quit...because they have taken a choice to not play the game YOUR way and now their character will be gimped forever...I think it's rather noble of them and quite honestly I support them. I'm actually fairly surprised they hadn't done it already.

The fact is, while you might think again that folks are dumb for thinking this way...this game cannot afford to lose any more people, no matter how many posts someone has that throws an opinion on this thread. Some of them don't have a character name....how do you know they're not the highest diamond buyer on their server, or one of the people from VVV who run end game?

Quoted from "Jguy"

While a few in this thread might think this is all hunky dory, I know several people (myself included) that are considering quitting as we have our own play style. Yes, a MMO stands for Massively Multiplayer Online, but at the same time, RPG stands for Role Playing Game, which usually allows you to play however you wish, down to and including simply sitting in your house and chatting with friends and casually leveling up a toon or two.

Really? Role playing is all about chatting with friends and casually leveling (neither of which new zone prevents, BTW)? Has absolutely nothing to do with you playing a role of someone who defeated Maderoth?

*sigh* Wailing fjorums are getting more and more [thanks, Majik, but I am self-censoring].

Quoted from "vfwiffo"

Quoted from "Jguy"

While a few in this thread might think this is all hunky dory, I know several people (myself included) that are considering quitting as we have our own play style. Yes, a MMO stands for Massively Multiplayer Online, but at the same time, RPG stands for Role Playing Game, which usually allows you to play however you wish, down to and including simply sitting in your house and chatting with friends and casually leveling up a toon or two.

Really? Role playing is all about chatting with friends and casually leveling (neither of which new zone prevents, BTW)? Has absolutely nothing to do with you playing a role of someone who defeated Maderoth?

*sigh* Wailing fjorums are getting more and more [thanks, Majik, but I am self-censoring].

I only saw like 10 quests in Wailing Fjord until I got Morrok line there... Unless each quest gives like 15m Xp...

Quoted from "ruisen2000"

I only saw like 10 quests in Wailing Fjord until I got Morrok line there... Unless each quest gives like 15m Xp...

I am going by what the people who are waiting for Bela run leveled to. 84+ is doable since several guildies hit that, 85 is not without questline or daily resets or lots of leftover Sarlo XP.

Even without resets, leveling is easy because the daily XP went up very disproportionally. Fjord daily is 30.5% increase over Sarlo one; meanwhile, XP requirement for leveling only went up 6% between 82 and 85. Anyone who is unable to hit the cap within short time is deliberately trying to fail and are just trying to disguise that.

that still does not do anything for the people that like to quest...i mean morrok is a long chain, if i was playing for the quests, i'd sure as heck want to see what happens in it....now i would have to either give up on morrok or do belathis, and for the people that are really only playing this game FOR the quests(not really that uncommon, i hear the storyline is actually very good), this is probably a gamebreaking decision.

Pink hat, which daily? is it doable in a party? and is it as fast as drinks?

Quoted from "Cike"

that still does not do anything for the people that like to quest...i mean morrok is a long chain, if i was playing for the quests, i'd sure as heck want to see what happens in it....now i would have to either give up on morrok or do belathis, and for the people that are really only playing this game FOR the quests(not really that uncommon, i hear the storyline is actually very good), this is probably a gamebreaking decision.

Yeah. You are expected to confront the all-powerful demon lord that been around and hinted and talked about ever since he and Kadmos made that remarks over Gestero and Sirloth. And then people are looking at that and saying "why can't we bypass"?. That makes sense to you from role-playing storytelling perspective, not getting involved in hard climactic fight, the one that resolves fate of major NPCs - Morrok, Bankelemos, Jill, Toni, Maderoth, Sismond? You want that to be skippable? You want that to be ordinary quest?

Quoted from "Dkjester"

Pink hat, which daily? is it doable in a party? and is it as fast as drinks?

Spice daily. Opening camp, two quests to unlock it. 527k XP, no combat after you unlock it, traveling among yellow mobs. Ideal for ungeared off-class or ungeared alt, very fast. Might be .... ummm... even faster than it was designed, but I am not saying that.

I wonder if it can be done in a party. Only reason cause doing 6 at once is usually the fastest way

Well as Rustyx as said MMORPG game, RPG for me is the Toni, Morrok questline, unless none of you young ones ever tried AD&D with a pencil and a piece of paper, story line, quests and rewards.

You might want to turn this conversation any way you like it, it is done the way it was done and Runewaker made it that way , not Gameforge. All the QQ comes from players that mainly PvP and have no interest in the game as a whole. You wanna have nice little aggs, little pom pom's for your toons etc , well i think the Barbie line is still on sale at Toy's R US and you might even find Ken dolls to.


Instead of losing your time debating i don't want to quest it's too hard on the forums, well try to find a group to help you run Belathis and stop all the whinning, gawd you guys are annoying like 5 year olds who got their doll stolen from them. Since all the whinning you people have been doing, you should have been able to get help by now? no? true you are here and not in game

Sad that some people lack the imagination and intelligence to see that a game can be played more than one way and enjoyed and wish to bully everyone else into playing only their way and are willing to ruin it and watch it fail rather than allow someone to play it the way they want to.

Quoted from "zidlef"

All the QQ comes from players that mainly PvP and have no interest in the game as a whole.

can i insert an "are you [Beep] kidding me?" meme here? or will that get removed?


zid, words fail me as to how completely and utterly wrong 80% of your post is...


the only thing i agree with is that "RPG" includes the questlines...great job...do you want a cookie for that?


i'd be loath to call somebody childish when i have pretty much ignored everybody that doesn't share my opinion all the while brashly insisting i am right...just a thought...










"All the people defending this issue are people who mainly do instances, and have no interest in the game as a whole." is there any difference between this statement and your statement?

Is this really still being debated here? I was able to solo one of the bosses in my run through Belathis. The giant black dragon was at 8% when everyone died. I had to take him down while like 15 or more of the hard mode...HARD MODE...mobs were on me. I managed to kill that dragon Han style (solo), and if I can manage to do that then there is no one in this game that has any room to complain that being forced to go into Belathis easy mode is too much to handle because I am not fully endgame statted as of yet. So I am where some of the complainers are, without fully endgame gear and yet I managed to pull off something like this.

I understand that you don't want to be forced to have to run an instance, but get over it. It has happened, and it isn't causing anyone to not be able to level. The only thing stopping anyone from leveling is their own bad attitude towards this change. Get a group and get it done, or find a way to solo it You can still hit max level without this quest. You can still get to the new zone without this quest. You can still get new gear/stats without this quest. You can still max out gathering skills without this quest. You can still log in and play without this quest. ... So what exactly has this change impacted upon anyone in such a way that they feel they need to leave the game? The people who are leaving are most likely casual players that have never spent any RL money on this game, and as I said in my previous post, why would GF or RW care about their opinions in the first place? They are companies that are looking to make money, and they will (as any company does) listen to the opinions of it's investors first and foremost (in this case that would be paying players like Zid, Rusty, and myself).

Quoted from "ghostwolf82"

I was able to solo one of the bosses in my run through Belathis. The giant black dragon was at 8% when everyone died. I had to take him down while like 15 or more of the hard mode...HARD MODE...mobs were on me. I managed to kill that dragon Han style (solo), and if I can manage to do that then there is no one in this game that has any room to complain that being forced to go into Belathis easy mode is too much to handle because I am not fully endgame statted as of yet.

Sorry, but they fixed the mobs lol. They are now easy mode mobs, like they should be. hardmode ones are at boss 4. And the Dragon boss doesn't actually attack you. He just stands there to bite at the fat light dragon while you hit him...

Quoted from "ruisen2000"

Quoted from "ghostwolf82"

I was able to solo one of the bosses in my run through Belathis. The giant black dragon was at 8% when everyone died. I had to take him down while like 15 or more of the hard mode...HARD MODE...mobs were on me. I managed to kill that dragon Han style (solo), and if I can manage to do that then there is no one in this game that has any room to complain that being forced to go into Belathis easy mode is too much to handle because I am not fully endgame statted as of yet.

Sorry, but they fixed the mobs lol. They are now easy mode mobs, like they should be. hardmode ones are at boss 4. And the Dragon boss doesn't actually attack you. He just stands there to bite at the fat light dragon while you hit him...

Beat me to it..was gonna ask what's so impressive about staying alive in that fight so close to the finish with easy mode mobs now lol

When did the fix happen? I didn't do this today btw, when I did it I was told it was hard mode mobs on me. Also, I am a tank, not a DPS.

Any which way, the point still stand that I did it without being fully endgame statted and geared. The people who complain that they can't do this instance on easy mode because they don't have the gear or stats for it have zero ground to stand on at this point.

Quoted from "SaitoHajime"

the hard mob mobs were on easy mode on boss#3 before. that was fixed.
boss#4 and #5 (partly, only the "holy shield of trail", not "ruptured maderoth") have the same issue.

And would everyone please calm down by now? Some people just do not find their fun in doing instances at all. And - not all of them are players that are solely in "free to play" mode. It is an issue, but it is -to my knowledge- a sole decision by Runewaker, nothing that Gameforge has explicitly requested. And as stated before, the mobs are a bug, the issue of the layout of the quests itself is not, but this is being requested to Runewaker to look into it and possibly change it (preferably without breaking more things). If they do that or not, is probably up to them.

Gearing to be able to complete that easy mode should be easy enough though with stats from bags nowadays being roughly on bethomia level.

There is one thing you, Gameforge, can do and that is make a post stating for those who are unable to find a run, have unusual hours on a small server stopping any chance of a run, for whatever other reason on this specific quest allow for auto completion by support of this quest if the player wishes that direction.

So many of the problems you inherited from Frog have been fixed. Isn't it about time you aimed at by keeping/growing the player base by first stopping the bleeding this last problem does.

Almodnut, I don't believe support can actually 'auto-complete' the quest "Joining the fight". Support can only help you with those quests that require an item to complete the quest by sending you that item through ID's. Joining the fight however is a 'be there to complete' type quest.

No they can auto complete any quest now in the Morrok line. Have been able to for a while.

I have asked and had it done myself. Tell them the quest and they mark it as done. My guess is even if they do not announce it they will do so with this one just to keep players playing.

Players who leave buy no diamonds. Unhappy players mean the need for bigger fix the moral sales which again lowers revenue.

A simple free fix that keeps players here.