Runes of Magic US / AU

Several times I have seen in this thread that Gameforge didn't request that completing the Morrok line and the Instance be required to go to the new area. Where did this information come from? I have never seen an official statement form Gameforge on this. Saying "to the best of my knowledge" is meaningless because it says you don't really know for sure. Until this happens it is their game and anything that happens in the game is Gameforge's idea. Is someone out there saying That Runewalker is deliberately sabotaging the game without Gameforge's consent?

+1 zid! belathis isn't hard to clear. Seen many people with 45k hp buffed living through a full run. Just need a good DPS/healer and its cleared.

As is the case with many people, the amount of work expended on justifying something not being accomplished far exceeds the amount of work needed to do it. This is not limited to ROM, it is society-wide problem.

Couple comments from me:

1) Bela is ... easy, with moderate strat; problem is most people can only burn, i.e. see tosh, how many ever did 1st boss?
2) That being said, when I was playing on Govinda, I personally knew many many good people who really dont care about instances period, strat or no strat. I was always instance junkie, but others are different and it should be acknowledged.

It looks like there is a good GM team nowdays, I think best way is to organize an event on all servers where they will come and auto complete the quest. I am sure this will help people and they will appreciate it.

P.S. Without pointing fingers, it is generally good idea to respect different point of view, no need to down on people if they are different.

gonna leave this one alone for now since we are too far away to understand each other on this

Firstly, apologies if by posting here the moderators see my name and close down the thread. I'm not in "the in crowd" at the moment.

Reading the tread I'm in the "can't do" category for this quest, but it appears that there are a lot of people posting here that it's easy to complete, we run people through etc. Myself, can't buy a run with money (short of an offer for 600m), or by offering 500 daimonds. So, I spent my diamonds and 85 on reset tickets. (yes, GF should love me with the amount of money I spend on the game each week).

Seems I'm not the only one on this server either as we've watched other groups of 6 at the respawn point that also haven't gotten past first or second boss. If someone on artemis server is doing such an easy run feel free to whisper me. Would be nice to open the quest line in new zone for when the next zone opens. Axehappy be my name. I realise there's people on server that can do the run, but truth be known my wife and myself both find the server to be quite anti-social if you're not in one of the "clicks".

Lets put it a simple statement that may be able to be understood by everyone. This has nothing to do with if people can run the instance! It has to do with people who don't want to do this instance or any instance because the instances are not an important part of the game for most people. They believe instances are nothing more than a waste of time. There is so much more to the game that people enjoy that to waste even a minute trying to figure out the silliness that some of the instances have at their core is absurd. They are just another thing that prevents people from fully enjoying the game like bugs or crashes.

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Lets put it a simple statement that may be able to be understood by everyone. This has nothing to do with if people can run the instance! It has to do with people who don't want to do this instance or any instance because the instances are not an important part of the game for most people. They believe instances are nothing more than a waste of time. There is so much more to the game that people enjoy that to waste even a minute trying to figure out the silliness that some of the instances have at their core is absurd. They are just another thing that prevents people from fully enjoying the game like bugs or crashes.

Yeah, I tried saying that. Good luck, seems this thread is full of ignorance. Good post though.

Seems though that there are indeed a few instances here, again people can't seem to grasp the core of the issue:

1) Running instances is not important to some. I know several people who haven't even stepped into NoM. It's not their thing. They'd rather run around and craft, or farm mobs for money or something besides running instances for this or that.
2) Some people can't solo the instance or even complete it in a properly formed group, following the strategy or not.
3) A lot of people can't get runs through even after offering money on some servers.

FYI - I'm one of those who do fully plan to "suck it up" and do it at some point. But I'm also trying to speak for the folks who have pointed out the flaw of this decision by RW. And I sincerely hope it's changed, or Gameforge offers a program where those less fortunate than some can get the quest completed so they can continue without having to grind out dailies.

I'd just like to say one last thing on this topic(unless more arguments are found) ...

this game has been hemorrhaging players since ch4 was launched. there have been very few new players to compensate, and even less that stick around. RoM can't afford to lose more players, so ANY move that GF makes(or lack of action) that drives people away(no matter how "lame" or "insignificant" the reason) is hurting the game. we are all here because we care. we all want to see this game become great again(or at least stop the downward spiral). some of the community, as well as GF, has adopted an "either sit down and shut up or gtfo" mentality. that helps nobody, least of all, the playerbase.

p2p, f2p, questers, PvP fanatics, dungeon runners, crafters...it doesn't matter why you are here, but the fact that you ARE here. I'd kindly ask people to respect the various reasons people are here, and thank them for sticking around.

we all want this game to flourish again, but I honestly don't see how that is going to happen when people repeatedly exclude portions of the player base.

since I have no wish to start a flame war, I'll stop here.

/endkumbayaspeech

thanks for reading,
cike

/bow
*steps off soap box*

Well we got 17 new players since this weekend and 8 of them who never played the game at all, so we are good, helping them learning the ropes and questing around ;-)

Quoted from "Cike"

/bow
*steps off soap box*

(removed flame at zid Lam)



I understand people not wanting to have to do instances to move along on their quest lines. Especially one so significant as the MAIN line. I'm one of those people that isn't much for instance running. But I had to suck it up and run with the guild to move along in my chain like everyone else lol..

That being said, Bela-E is NOT a difficult instance to do. Furthermore, Bela-E really doesn't require much strat at all..it's STILL more or less just burns and survival of the fittest. Easy mode boss 3 is more or less a survival game, easy mode boss 4 is burn em before he burns you (due to the hard mode mobs currently) and easy mode boss 5..just burn the Trail guy twice and ur done (basically)

If you have one good healer and one good dps running in your group, you'll be fine

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Quoted from "Cike"

/bow
*steps off soap box*

Better back away quickly, Zid will knock you over if you don't get out of his way quick enough to get back up there.

Not if I trip him..I have a stew pot waiting.

Me tis headin ter Drakkarsdad's house fer dinner. Me twill bringer the beer!

I'm not sure why people are even in a twist about the Maderoth quest. If you can't do BelaE now, just continue along your way to Wailing
Fjord via Portal or marriage ring, and mark Snoop. Go back to BelaE when you can. I had no left over quests from the previous zone, had to
portal to WF and still got to 84.25 by the quests that were available.

If you were to create a game that had ZERO instances, some people MIGHT play it...might...but not many and not for long. Those that do not play this or any mmo for the instances are a VERY small minority. Most of the people who play this game, and mmo's in general, do so for the challenges offered by reaching the top of the tier in the game's playerbase. A company wants to reach out to those that make up the majority of its consumers, simple economics.

Those of you complaining here have said that you can and will end up running the instance. Stop trying to argue for "other people", let them speak for themselves. If someone has a personal issue with this change, let them be the one to say so. Don't try to speak for them and possibly put words into their mouths. Cike is the only one here so far that I can say would have a leg to stand on if this were the criteria, because I know he doesn't "do" endgame aymore.

If it required 'endgame' to do, would really be a problem.

It is not a very small minority as you claim. Again, people are judging this through a narrow prism of what seems to be a very limited experience with the overall population of this game. There was simply no need to take the morrok line through an instance since it is the main line for leveling. It will become more of a problem if the morrok line moves on from this zone.

For such an easy run, it sure is hard to get a group that will run Belathis on Artemis server. A problem which I'm sure will get worse when more people are leveled and left it behind. I'm 85 already, 15 daily resets.. But would be nice to complete that part of the quest line for next level cap. Have tried worlds many times of the day, tried offering money, tried offering diamonds...

Might be easy, but people don't seem to be queuing up to run people through it.. Maybe a few of the people who find it so easy might like to drop a few more world chats to say they're running it, or at least answer world chats requesting it....

/\ that is the problem that I see with this change. Artemis people just aren't nice. If you aren't in your guild... forget about it. No help to the rest of the community.

Maybe that is why I got such a jaded opinion on certain players. Cause only people I have seen successful at getting runs for their quests are people willing to pay... and not a small amount. It is just sad that Artemis is one of the worst servers community-wise. The people who can do it... aren't. That is why I am trying to reduce the number of chars needed for us to run it to be able to have spots open.

Sad to see that two players, want to be able to run it with no one else... just so they can help the community where other guilds fail.

Hey Dkjester,

could you PM me in game sometime - Axehappy

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/\ that is the problem that I see with this change. Artemis people just aren't nice. If you aren't in your guild... forget about it. No help to the rest of the community.

Maybe that is why I got such a jaded opinion on certain players. Cause only people I have seen successful at getting runs for their quests are people willing to pay... and not a small amount. It is just sad that Artemis is one of the worst servers community-wise. The people who can do it... aren't. That is why I am trying to reduce the number of chars needed for us to run it to be able to have spots open.

Sad to see that two players, want to be able to run it with no one else... just so they can help the community where other guilds fail.

I would do that but it seems that even hitting 85, and having good pattk/matkk it seems RW did something cause bosses I could solo, we now cant duo.


If we every finish it ill be happy to let you know and take you through however, tonights runs disgusted us enough we don't even know if we are going to actively play any longer. We are certainly not spending any more money on it.

Other games PROGRAMMERS will treat us better as players than RW will. I keep stressing.. GF I think has been doing a much better job, but it seems RW is putting blocks in their way of keeping players. RW successfully lost them another paying player tonight.