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Either way though, there's a steep gearing curve as soon as you hit level cap, and not many new players are willing to get up that boring, tedious curve by grinding mentos/shells. Farming instances for gear/ststs, maybe. Grinding? no.

People are here to play a game. They aren't here to get a new part time job.

I honestly can't understand why I spent nearly 2 years grinding and building my toon back then, and what kept me going. If I were to do it again, there's no way in hell I'd go through the same process.

I make the argument that its not that steep of a curve if we start better supporting crafters.

The crafted gear is REALLY good, xii stats are more than acceptable, they easily get u where u need to be. It's just a matter of getting people to craft and sell.

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I make the argument that its not that steep of a curve if we start better supporting crafters.

The crafted gear is REALLY good, xii stats are more than acceptable, they easily get u where u need to be. It's just a matter of getting people to craft and sell.

Where would they get the gold to pay the crafters? They'd still have to grind the gold, except they'd be paying crafters instead. I haven't done much crafting past 30, but I'm pretty sure getting crafting high enough is not easy, and from what I've heard, it'll cost like 100m or something during crafting festival if you want to speed that process up.

Even then, not everyone likes crafting, and farming instances for gear/stats needs to be more viable to get someone fully geared/statted. Having normal mode with a 1% chance of a decent stat and 1 decent stat for each class isn't going to get anyone fully geared.

Well that just turned into the "i want free stuff" argument. You have the capacity to quest on your own to level up and get quest gear which is quite good. This quest gear lets you farm a certain level of dungeon. You can use this dungeon to get mems to get gear crafted for you so you can farm more dungeons and get even better gear. Work needs to be put in at some point. Bag stats are still viable. Shells and eojs are still viable. Norm mode stats and gear are still viable. As a rogue yous till get cores, and transformations which you can use in place of guardians. Maybe you dont have access to triumphs or ability, but then again, i usually dont either. My gear is full of xii stats and eoj stats. Yes, somethings need to give better drops, but making easy mode easier isnt the answer to the problem.

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I had a guildie that hit 82 when it was max, he spend 50 bucks on the game, Took the quest gear/mem gear and plusses up to +4 T9ed a OD transformed hoson staff, had 30k hp 40k ma.attk.

He couldn't farm things on his own. Tried it over and over and over. He realized he needed the 70/70 elite to have much of a chance.

Sorry but quest gear is not good enough to solo farm for mems.


And not like there are a lot of groups running around for farming mems, not on Artemis at least.


This player soon quit, sorry but that is what I have been trying to say. What new player have your recently had to deal with to form your opinion? Just because, from where you are sitting now, it looks easy to do, doesn't mean someone starting fresh will have as easy of a time, or be able to do it at all.

I don tknow how ur frend managed to only have 30k hp and 40k mattack.

Im running crafted/norm mode gear, +12 and statted. 106k pa, 70k hp. yes to run higher lvl dungones you need to stat. yes you need runes. 50 bucks should get you that.

Your friend did something wrong. Your friend needs someone to talk to them about what they're doing, they need advice.

xii, mist, elmental, disorder stats. probably would do equally fine in xii, elemental, disorder, sealing eclipse. I gernally stat core of mist, cruel xii, razor xii, elmental guardain, ability, triumph. Most of my diamonds went for runes and drillers and plussing gems and puris.

wearing 2 rings of soul dom, 1 bethomia speed, 1 kulech precision, 1 bedim acc, plage lindworm helm, belt, gloves, boots, easy mode vendom shoulders, crafted cape, eoj pants, barrier dagger (lvl 75 crafted) offhand. Only hard mode pieces are chest and weapon. Chest was a gift so i got lucky on that one, but i would have settled for any chest, even the cirt shell ones. The weapon was the only really expensive part.

and this got me into beth-hm. yes, mages will have a harder time keeping the damage of a r/m (maybe not a m/w?) but you shouldent be stuck at 30k hp and 40k mattack.

and if ur worried aabout plussing gems, farm the event that is out. free gems every day. lets even skip the plussing up. even +0 with that stuff should put you well over what you listed.

Ok wait back up, this is entirely off topic.

Your argument was that easy mode should be easier so players can gear faster.

In reality, easy mode being easier would not fix the gearing issue you described.

but other than a few odd pieces, you wouldent get useable stats unless you can afford random extractors, and you wouldent get much useable gear. im not understanding how gear that requres cleaning to be useful at all fixes your issue.

Quoted from "Darwec"

I don tknow how ur frend managed to only have 30k hp and 40k mattack.

Im running crafted/norm mode gear, +12 and statted. 106k pa, 70k hp. yes to run higher lvl dungones you need to stat. yes you need runes. 50 bucks should get you that.

Your friend did something wrong. Your friend needs someone to talk to them about what they're doing, they need advice.

He may have spent a little more than he should, but I wouldn't say its too extreme. half a year ago, I plussed/statted 2 pieces to T6 +11 and 1 to T5 +10 at the same time, so a quick glance of the diamonds I had on my toon before and after allowed me to see how much diamonds I'd spent. It costed me 1100 diamonds in total for those 3 pieces, then another 600 or so for 3 rune slots and 3 runes. You don't feel it as much unless you do everything at the same time. If you plus it a few times today, a few more times tomorrow, puri stats as you get it over the weeks, etc, it seems like it costed less than it actually did.

For 13 pieces of gear/accessories, 1 wing, and 1 weapon... even if you 1-2 runes, and only T5, that's around 5600 diamonds. Charges are cheaper now, but tiering a weapon is still not that cheap.

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Quoted from "Darwec"

I don tknow how ur frend managed to only have 30k hp and 40k mattack.

Im running crafted/norm mode gear, +12 and statted. 106k pa, 70k hp. yes to run higher lvl dungones you need to stat. yes you need runes. 50 bucks should get you that.

Your friend did something wrong. Your friend needs someone to talk to them about what they're doing, they need advice.

He may have spent a little more than he should, but I wouldn't say its too extreme. half a year ago, I plussed/statted 2 pieces to T6 +11 and 1 to T5 +10 at the same time, so a quick glance of the diamonds I had on my toon before and after allowed me to see how much diamonds I'd spent. It costed me 1100 diamonds in total for those 3 pieces, then another 600 or so for 3 rune slots and 3 runes. You don't feel it as much unless you do everything at the same time. If you plus it a few times today, a few more times tomorrow, puri stats as you get it over the weeks, etc, it seems like it costed less than it actually did.

For 13 pieces of gear/accessories, 1 wing, and 1 weapon... even if you 1-2 runes, and only T5, that's around 5600 diamonds. Charges are cheaper now, but tiering a weapon is still not that cheap.

I use alts for charges but i realize that is time consuming. yes i agree that some gear is very expensive. yes i agree that norm mode and mems should be more lucrative like they used to be. But making easy mode easier doesnt solve any problems in anyways i can understand.

Lets say for example bela was easier. You clear it, get some easy mode pieces that have dirty stats on them, you still have to plus and stat them to some extent for them to be worth whilehelping you run norm or hard. And, infact, easy mode is quite easy if you dont get one shot by failing strats, but its still not helpful at all. If you said easy/normal mode should be more useful gear/stat wise, id probably agree. Buts its difficulty is not an issue.

Only reason why we ever lived in DoD was to farm mems wasn't it

The change in stat availability via mems rolls have kinda made farming instances in easy mode redundant, only reason why most bother with mems is for food/chance of an od gear/mats for crafting.

They've made a Bel clear a pre-req for new questline this chapter, which is kinda fun given the fact that people do need to run it in a group in order to clear. Our guild can clear Grotto HM but each and every one of us still need to find a party if we wanted to clear Bel EM.

As for Bel EM being too hard, it isn't that bad once you know the strat...people will whine if everything is too easy a burn anyway so take advantage of other's wipes and experience and learn the strats. Silences/Debuffs/Positioning/Immunes etc etc there're so many things to remember and execute.

I see the point of new players not wanting to grind and wanting to gear fast, but that isn't the nature of this game. The vast options available for upgrading is what attracts a lot of people to RoM. To be fair the introduction of Shells/EOJs have already made the game a lot easier for newer players to gear up Tiering is an obstacle and free charges are available, it really depends on the individual to put in a bit of work and take advantage, the same goes for puris too. Making Bel EM easier isn't going to change anything if a new player doesn't know what they're doing or aren't equipped to clear it.

*Crafting is such a thankless job, anyone who crafts knows how much effort is used, anyone who doesn't craft doesn't realise the effort and resources invested to lvl crafting. If you desire a crafted item why not ask around to see who can craft what? start a crafting channel to borrow other's skills, there are quite a few high lvl crafters around on Reni, a lot will craft for free if you provide mats. We all rallied up and sent mats to the crafter in our guild in order to help him level to 85 in tailoring and armoursmith as there are items from this chapter a lot of us want for gear upgrade.

Look at it this way: It requires a player to team up with other players and gain an experience they might of never otherwise had. We have these causal players in our guild, so our more powerful players had to run them all through it. Now sure we probably had better things to do but on the positive side. Our casual players got to learn what a harder instance, teamwork, and a strat boss fight is. Maybe after tasting that side of the game they will enjoy it and gear up, maybe not.

What I think would be nice is too announce something like that ahead of time so players can do the quests before the new content is out. I completed it with some guildies on easy mode on the hunch they might do it but something concrete would be nice for players that didn't visit it before and say. Why is morrak in here?

Yes, i agree that blea should not be tied into the quest line.

The problem is that people should be learning dungeon strats on easy and practicing buffs and rotations. Making something already quite easy easier would mean that they arnt learning. We already have players in end game dungeons with full gear doing no damage because they dont know their buff rotations. Your suggestion would make that problem worse.

They made changes because it appeared to be glitched and was spawning hardmode mobs if i remember correctly.