Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "zidlef"

I agree Darwec with Grotto hardmode, but if you get 12 people in there, don't you think that if you have a few that have bag stats it would be doable? we might have to try it ;-) i like to die and learn

Like i said, i can hold my own in grotto with crafted gear and a few bag stats, but im still pretty low in dps. I only pull this off because im a r/m and that class deals more DPS than is reasonable.

I dont think most mages could carry their own in grotto(actually, i think a m/wl could but that is because a m/wl is more useful for its debuffs than it is for its dps, even if it is good dps). I think even r/wds would have to be flawlessly on top of their game. Some classes could pull it off. Others will struggle too much. Pull me along for ur HM runs if u need more ppl to try such fun things ;P

Clearly it becomes easier if you set up a group that is perfectly set up: a k/w a d/w and some other healer a m/wl 2 wd/s and a combination of r/m's wd/w and w/wd. That set up might push through if they have all the requisite buffs (lute, tamb, sa, ft, mr, tact smash). Mages could survive if g2 was entierly magic based and brought their guitar and tambo and is m/wls and m/w's.

I think for other players, other mages, other warriors, r/s's .... these instances have been made around r/m w/wd w/m dps. IT does not appear that these classes are going away or being nerfed. Strats are a posibility, but the lag and just the flat out damage players take in these instances are absurd. At the very least, in grotto, first boss will most likely have to be burned due to the sheer lag that happens.

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two comments:
if 5k eojs per day at max is too much, cut the rewards to 1/20th of their current so you get only 2.5k total.

since this would be a massive overhaul of the eoj system, here is a simpler change:
every 20 minutes, each person has a chance at 35 EOJ's individually. So you would have to solo 6k eojs every 20 minutes to get a reward. If you dont reach 6k, you receive a percentage. your score / 6k * 35 would be your reward. if you reach 0 you get none. if you get 1k you get 1/6*35, etc.

Quoted from "trav42073"

Fail stats , yea. The ah on reni is full of them. dex/mattack. like really? My only good useful pulls came from poms. shells, eojs, mems. useless. on both sides. farming 1k mems and getting a non od, useless stat item is beyond fail. I wont farm mems anymore. better off to farm gold. I will say this, adjusting to pve market having been on pvp server for so long, is very hard to get used to. pk trade for the win. pvp servers market, free flow of gear and stats is way better and less constricted than the pve servers.

And honestly, as far as how the eoj farming works out, where if u invite more people your odds of winning are less, well, the way it used to go on indigo was we took turns. we would get a large group together, and all farm eoj event. taking turns on who got the win. And to think, that I used to think there was no cooperation on the pvp servers. There is less on reni.

I cant tell you how many people have come into my guild, who are lvl cap, having come from another guild, where apparently keeping the strat to themselves for things as simple as zs, ds, hodl and others was top secret info. This is for you zid, because your guild is just as guilty of it. This is why new people don't learn the strats. Yall don't share the strats.

Well guess what, someone who was around long enough, and took notes is on Reni, and I am not afraid to share strats with new players. I want them all to learn it. Your going to see a change on the server, little by little.

My advice, don't bother farming eojs. mems. Farm instances. period.

This is terrible advice. You cant gear on just instance runs. Well you could, it would not be optimal endgame gear though.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Quoted from "trav42073"

I cant tell you how many people have come into my guild, who are lvl cap, having come from another guild, where apparently keeping the strat to themselves for things as simple as zs, ds, hodl and others was top secret info. This is for you zid, because your guild is just as guilty of it. This is why new people don't learn the strats. Yall don't share the strats.

LMAO i give strat out to anyone who asks of the instances i know, do you also want me to go clear it for you?? Soultwist you are a liar and a bad troll. You or any of your guildies never asked me anything on Reni. Also since you are supposed to be endgame on that other server you played on and now are on Reni, why don't you know the strat?? Instead of trying to spread lies and be a bad troll, get the fact straight.

BTW i have sold crafted gear for a very good price to your own guildies, we've had issues in the past and i let them go, so now the embargo is put back on your guild and guildies, at least they will know who to blame, YOU. Have fun!!

You know this is exactly what causes server drama and economy problems....You all keep yelling at each other, both trav and zid. Work together instead of yelling at each other on the forums and refusing to help the other.

Quoted from "Mrpushpop"

Quoted from "Darwec"

I dont think most mages could carry their own in grotto(actually, i think a m/wl could but that is because a m/wl is more useful for its debuffs than it is for its dps, even if it is good dps).

I don't want to derail your thread but quick note cause this comment is currently being discussed in other threads. Mages do just fine in Grotto, your experience is based off 1 or 2 mage's stuck in physical dps party I am guessing.

If you have not yet, check out the mage discussion as it may help the mages you currently raid with.

The only mage combo ive seen keep up with rogue/m's in or out of a physical dps party (yes, we tossed them in g3 with all instruments and buffs they'ed need) is m/w and they do very well, but i think i already listed that.

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wait, no. thats not at all what i meant, let me re try that. Too early in the morning:
i think m/w and m/wl's who are slightly undergeared for grotto can keep up in grotto. I think other mages, to do well in the instance, would have to be well geared using the full beth set and fully prepared to push grotto hard.

I am not saying mages cant do well in grotto, i am saying they need proper gear. I am also saying that a r/m can get away with being fairly undergeared.