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Wednesday, April 16th 2014, 5:19am

Just showing off a bit in Beth...

I know its not the best... But its a new high for me :P Still nice to hit over 1m per flame without all of my buffs on :|
(Pic requested by Xamd <3 )
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Wednesday, April 16th 2014, 5:30am

Very nice :) This was on HM ofc? Also, what kind of mage do you do instances as? :o
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Wednesday, April 16th 2014, 2:17pm

Most people go M/W for instances.. I go Mage/Warden though, with as much burst dps it has in short boss fights like that its the better choice.. and yes, it was on HM :P
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Wednesday, April 16th 2014, 2:45pm

Congratz! You can double or triple that too if you are lucky enough to get a magic party together. R2P hit 4.5m dps in beth the other day and I stopped being his friend over it.

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Wednesday, April 16th 2014, 5:25pm

Thanks for posting, much appreciated. I'm still looking for more non-m/wd screens. But regardless, nice damage. If its any possible indication, most mages should be able to get 1m flames at least in beth. Hoping to start seeing some grotto screens at some point as well :)

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Wednesday, April 16th 2014, 11:17pm

Haha, Yeah.. Lilpacker, i had 4.7m dps in there.. but the boss died so fast I never got my total damage off.. the boss was dead within 2 seconds of my 5 second burn... :( and Xamd.. Mages are still viable in instances... grotto may be difficult but not impossible :P plus I've seen R2P in 1v1 arena.. I can't even touch him.. makes me feel awful :P
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Thursday, April 17th 2014, 6:58am

We just finished a Beth HM run which i ran as M/W and had some incredible flame crits.. Highest single flame was 3.2m, with over 3m dps on multiple boss fights.

Lilpacker and I somehow coordinated his silence(which deals double dmg on mob) with my flame and hit a 5.7m flame on 4th boss.
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Thursday, April 17th 2014, 7:04am

Since the other mage thread actually has players talking about improving mages, I figured here was a better place to post some uber dps screens.

Zencast = m/wd
Darkelement = m/w

k/w m/wl wl/m d/wd p/r present, as well as a wl/p to spam regen (10% int increase) on zencast.
First, fourth, 5th and 6th bosses respectively. DE hit a 5.7m flame thanks to wl/m Silent Seal (doubles damage of the next incomming attack). GG

If m/w can do that much in beth, grotto shouldn't be a huge problem either o.o
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Thursday, April 17th 2014, 2:17pm

Nice!! Just goes to show that I have A LOT to work on. Heh. Very very nice Dankelement & Zencast
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Thursday, April 17th 2014, 5:28pm

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If m/w can do that much in beth, grotto shouldn't be a huge problem either o.o




Its still a huge hassle compared to just bringing rogues, wardens and W/Wd though. All you need is Priest amp and you're good to go. Don't need to wait for classes played by 1 person on the whole server to log on, and don't need to have the whole party run out ever 10 mins.

Also, we're neglecting debuffs for physical classes. I remember Raves posting a gigantic list of debuffs they used to use to burn bosses with physical classes, but all of those pretty much became obsolete because now people just burned bosses fine without those physical debuffs. But if they did a full debuff party, it would be... death-tastic for the boss.
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Thursday, April 17th 2014, 9:45pm

most of those debuffs come from druids (which you don't have to go out of your way to have), and scouts. Scouts have already been deemed worthless regardless of their abilities to increase pdmg received by 16% or 10% or w/e. Some classes have debuffs that benefit both sides, where as others only benefit 1 (tactical smash, most scout debuffs for physical, wl/m soul brand and others for magical just to list a few ).

In regards to the whole "people don't play the classes" thing, I was hoping to inspire players to start doing that. Yes rogues can hit high dps, but I was watching a VVV grotto run (kind of old but w/e) and indigo boss fights are roughly the same duration despite us have zero r/m.

Even without the large buff alt army, m/w and m/wd and perhaps other well geared mages still perform decently, or so I believe. I have yet to see any screens posted form anyone trying, so my hopes remain in tact. Bring your own guitar/tambo and go in pty 3 to play your instruments if needed. And I've said many times that m/wl has become increasingly more popular, so guitar for a group of m/wl 2 healers and m/w m/wd means faster m/wl debuff = more dps for everyone.

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Thursday, April 17th 2014, 10:34pm

It really isn't much of a hassle as people make it out to be ^.^ We rarely take all the buffs possible, more so we only do that in grotto. For Beth any buffs alts we bring (if any) come with us inside the instance. So we are never having to run out to refresh. In the cause of the Wl/P I have following me, that is my alt simply using a macro to keep up regen on me as it gives me an extra 10% intel/wis. I also usually throw this regen on other mages in the party during the countdown phase. No time wasted :)
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Thursday, April 17th 2014, 11:17pm

If you look around the eu forums you can find some screenshots of a m/w doing 8m+ dps in beth, at 80 cap.
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Friday, April 18th 2014, 4:55am

This was my damage in another beth run earlier today on 4th boss... I actually beat the r/m and warmage(s) in the group... Made me feel good for a few minutes.. haha.. I'm thinking about trying M/W later in beth just to see how the damage/dps varies with the different class combinations..
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Friday, April 18th 2014, 1:42pm

Ruisen buff alts are not really that hard/bad as Zencast has said.

Our point here is, we don't want to be a party of all R/M's. This is coming from a former rogue. I could of gone R/M with the rest of the ch 4 R/Ss. I made a new toon cause I wanted to raid differently. Instead of QQing we found our way of making magic classes viable. It works, it may not be as "easy" as you put it but it is still darn easy.

I want all mages to reach their true power, heck I never play mage because I would rather help them on lock. R/M doesn't have to put your magic classes out of business is all I am saying.

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Friday, April 18th 2014, 4:44pm

Lets get somebody posting screen shots of something other than the easiest hard mode instance ever released >.> Would make it far more interesting to see mage dps in something that isnt like walking into normal mode of the current end-game instance...
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Friday, April 18th 2014, 4:55pm

Lets get somebody posting screen shots of something other than the easiest hard mode instance ever released >.> Would make it far more interesting to see mage dps in something that isnt like walking into normal mode of the current end-game instance...
Well this thread wouldn't exactly be the place for screenshots like that now would it? Since it kinda says "Bethomia" in the title. As mentioned in another thread we were going to also post Grotto HM screen shots but simply have not run it in a while. It's not only purely endgame people whom browse these forums, let the others be proud and have some fun now, it's not harming anyone... But as I said, after the holidays, I will try to get those Grotto screen shots of a mage party. ;p
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Saturday, April 19th 2014, 11:08pm

Agree with cammo. Could be interesting to see screens from grotto hm, mainly 6th boss as its actually possible to get a nice crit rate there. Highest I've seen so far was 3.3kk DPS without a sigil :D
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Monday, April 21st 2014, 7:23am

Grotto hard mode

Darkelement on m/w. First boss grotto he had no tambo. Only have First and second, and Taren because I'm a noob tank and we couldn't get the 3rd boss shield down. On Taren, zencast went m/w as well but he has much less TP invested in that class combination. Also I died on Taren fight, so my dps is artificially low, but the point is to look at the m/w doing 950k~ dps and 36m dmg over 40s.

p/s m/wl k/w wl/m d/wd present.

Images are 1st boss grotto hard, 2nd boss grotto hard, Taren.

EDIT: I know this is a "beth" thread but...didn't feel like starting a new thread for something so closely related and already talked about in this one.
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Tuesday, April 22nd 2014, 6:53am

Messed with M/wd in Goh hm tonight...

had a p/s alt that had 6% m.atk increase and k/w + m/wl present
I am still working on my gear for mage.
Had no tambo or morale boost in my pty lol
Also need to finish leveling pet along with getting magic attack housemaid.

6th boss lol
These numbers are not to impressive too me but need more buffs <_<
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