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Friday, May 16th 2014, 2:51pm

what is endgame?

I have heard this term thru out the forums about am not sure what people mean by this.



with that being said. I am trying to determine where I should go with my characters.

I have a 83/61 scout/knight

a 74/65/58 priest/mage/warlock

and a 50/50/20 rogue/scout/warden

and want to know which one is the best to take the rest of the way thru towards "endgame"

would hate to waste anymore time on one of these characters if they are going to be useless there.

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Friday, May 16th 2014, 3:05pm

I think I would refer to endgame as being level capped and having the ability gear-wise to run the highest instance currently.

As far as your toons..

Due to the state of the scout at the moment, it's kind of "useless" in endgame right now. If it were fixed there would be a lot of people (including myself) that would be playing scout. It's one of the most fun classes in the game but it just doesn't stack up to the other dps classes.

Rogue/S/Wd could work if you want to play rogue. R/S is the best class for pvp in my opinion, I prefer it over Rogue/Mage though the Rogue/Mage destroys it in PVE dmg.

I would go with the Priest/m/wl if you like healing. It's a great healing combo that is very under-used and if you find healing fun it could totally work for endgame.

Just my opinion.

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Friday, May 16th 2014, 3:31pm

True Endgame - Have completed Hard Mode of the current hardest instance or the one at lvl cap. Clearing HM Grotto at lv 85 is endgame.

Slang Endgame - a geared player, this occurs when a player base in unable to clear current content but thinks they could if they had more players so they refer to themselves as endgame.

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Friday, May 16th 2014, 4:57pm

True Endgame - Have completed Hard Mode of the current hardest instance or the one at lvl cap. Clearing HM Grotto at lv 85 is endgame.
Slang Endgame - a geared player, this occurs when a player base in unable to clear current content but thinks they could if they had more players so they refer to themselves as endgame.
agree :)

well, may i add

Wannabe endgame - level cap reached, but geared with old old stats/armor , stats/armor no one even sell/buy at AH, way too old.
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Saturday, May 17th 2014, 1:14am

Endgame is being able to 1-3 shot a mob, or hold aggro, or heal for 1-2 times others hp in highest level hardmode instance. Best chance to achieve that is cap/cap, and high(est) gear/stats/runes/skills/pots/foods/titles/pets/other.

Unless you are a healer, which from those characters it looks like you prefer dps, the r/s/wd is your best bet.

edit: specifically the r/wd. It does a lot of dps, but you will have to deal with the fuel consumption-energy and mana usage. That character also will allow you the opportunity to play r/s or wd/s, which are still decent. If Runewaker ever fixes scout, then you will have the s/wd and s/r to have fun with as well.
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Saturday, May 17th 2014, 5:14am

high(est) gear/stats/runes/skills
I 100% disagree with that... you do not have to have the VERY BEST stats/gear/runes to do a decent amount of dps.
For my Wd/war war/wdn I have X stats + stats from doing minis and such. I have beth hm gear combined with mento/crafted gear with over 110k p.atk and not the best runes in all of my gear. However... I used the CORRECT stats when stating my gear instead of using things like str/hp and junk...

I feel that the key issue people have with doing endgame runs is by not having the correct class combinations
and lack of debuffs (ie k/w M/wl)

You can't have a raid of M/p r/s knights and fail warrior combinations expecting to clear Grotto Hardmode.

The top melee dps from what I have observed is Wdn/war by far.
Also R/m + w/wd are very decent melee dps not far behind wdn/w
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Saturday, May 17th 2014, 6:11am

Quoted from "camagic"



high(est) gear/stats/runes/skills
I 100% disagree with that... you do not have to have the VERY BEST stats/gear/runes to do a decent amount of dps.
For my Wd/war war/wdn I have X stats + stats from doing minis and such. I have beth hm gear combined with mento/crafted gear with over 110k p.atk and not the best runes in all of my gear. However... I used the CORRECT stats when stating my gear instead of using things like str/hp and junk...
i guess by VERY BEST stats/gear/runes , he meant , for example as a Warrior, the 4 th best STR/pa and the 2 best STAM/pa
gear + 16 OD, obvisouly, weapon T11 OD obvisouly, and all best runes STR /pa STam/pa and such.
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say that if I didn't enjoy RoM, I wouldn't be posting here asking for
game to improve. :beer:
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Saturday, May 17th 2014, 6:13am

i view endgame more about ability to run and hold your own than your actual gear/stats/such
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Saturday, May 17th 2014, 7:04am

Endgame is the ability to clear the endgame instance and stay competitive as new content comes out. Has nothing to do with arbitrary stats and gear. You can have the best stats and gear in the game, but if you're a crap player, you're not endgame. You're a dude in shiny gear that can't do anything.

If you can hold your own in the endgame instance, and continue to do so as new instances come out, you are endgame.
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Saturday, May 17th 2014, 8:11am

If you can hold your own in the endgame instance, and continue to do so as new instances come out, you are endgame.


Drats, looks like I have been demoted to water boy.
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Saturday, May 17th 2014, 12:04pm

burn or die right? XD
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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 4:02pm

End game - piss borella off and survive all his attacks... :)

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Wednesday, May 21st 2014, 12:09am


End game - piss borella off and survive all his attacks...


Endgame: Able to kill me on P/K one on one.

(Go away M/wd's I hate you. QQ.)
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Wednesday, May 21st 2014, 1:45am

Sounds like a challenge... too bad I can't even try... :)

Darn, never going to be end-game... :monster: just like rustyx :lol:

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Wednesday, May 21st 2014, 6:18am

Sounds like a challenge... too bad I can't even try... :)

Darn, never going to be end-game... :monster: just like rustyx :lol:


Pshaw. That was never my definition of endgame.
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Wednesday, May 21st 2014, 6:12pm

M/Wd 1v1 is probably only a good counter to healers. Everything else can destroy us 1v1 assuming gear and skill are roughly the same. (Ok maybe not warriors)

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Wednesday, May 21st 2014, 7:09pm

That is only 5 second counter every 5 minutes... :)

What about Wd/D with mage gear... :)

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Wednesday, May 21st 2014, 11:47pm

That is only 5 second counter every 5 minutes... :)

What about Wd/D with mage gear... :)


3 minutes. Every 3 minutes.

Idk why wd/d in mage gear would be any better than a w/m or a k/m.
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Wednesday, May 21st 2014, 11:51pm

wd/d is less damage than w/m or k/m, but self heals and survivability are greater.
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Thursday, May 22nd 2014, 1:55am

Re "What is endgame"

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