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Sunday, May 18th 2014, 9:36pm

Rom probably makes more money from the current system then if it became subscription based. Not because players leave but just cause the system works in there favour. Plussing etc etc.

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Myste

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Sunday, May 18th 2014, 9:53pm

Quoted from "Cenre"

Rom probably makes more money from the current system then if it became subscription based. Not because players leave but just cause the system works in there favour. Plussing etc etc.

Heh, I can be fairly certain I pay more into the game per month then they'd ever charge for a fee, yet if they did opt to go with a fee I would very likely go find another game.

For one reason or another real life gets in the way and I'll be damned if I pay for a month or more of play time when at any given time I could be forced to not play for an extended period. Besides, I don't wanna feel like I haveta play the game just cuz I paid for it, and I know more often than not that'd be exactly how I'd feel.

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Monday, May 19th 2014, 3:56am

Well as Cike as said : Many have asked for it, well yes of course many meaning 2 people and we know who LOL.

The game works as intended, subcription would kill it. Unless you wanna pay 15$ a month per account, that would be a great idea to put the nail in the coffin, like these many players have been asking. Diamonds are still at 100K on Reni, maybe try to be nicer to people on your server and get better deals on everything, treat them like crap and pay full price.

Get a job and spend a little, wanna remain F2P, well no one asked you to spend a dime or forced you to do so. you can run and do content with your blue gear.

Stop making posts where we all know you can't afford it anyways, so subscription would be the same. Step away from your keyboard and go play outside, summer is here.

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Monday, May 19th 2014, 10:38am

Have to agree that adding a subscription model at this point in the games life would probably not be ideal. There are several subscription based games that have much more content and better support already out there. If you want a subscription based game you would be better served just changing games to one that already exists.

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jo7154

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Monday, May 19th 2014, 1:33pm

cant play outside , it s raining

and, i repeat myself

if s easy to say ideas are bad, guess easier to breath.
but kinda impossible to give ANY ideas.

i know this one " subsription per month " is bad, well, from i m reading, yea

now let s find another way then. ( bet no one will give even ONE letter, wait too much, 1/10 of a letter, for an idea)

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And before I get the "oh then go play that other game", I'd like to
say that if I didn't enjoy RoM, I wouldn't be posting here asking for
game to improve.

"Quit if you don’t like the game” kinds of postings. It’s juvenile, but probably inevitable "

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dropbear

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Monday, May 19th 2014, 2:39pm

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now let s find another way then. ( bet no one will give even ONE letter, wait too much, 1/10 of a letter, for an idea)

the idea's have been mentioned plenty of times before... take the fail out of plussing jewels (or at least stop them from going down a level), implement a sales team that listens to what the players are asking for and have that put into the item shop, and for Thalia(AU server).... place the server back in AU.... and get someone to reopen the !@#$%^& instances that are costing us the loss of mems.(the latest reason many on Thalia have limited their play time)

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Monday, May 19th 2014, 9:32pm

well easy solution for you Jo :

FARM FARM FARM
Do minigames, minigames minigames
Do EOJ's
Get a job and spend a little
Stop being lazy

Don't want to do that, well go to one of those awesome games you mentionned and pay your monthly fees, do not forget to go without 3 months paying or they will delete your account LOL ROFL!!!.

Pointless post from the start.

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Monday, May 19th 2014, 11:34pm

i think most people look at RoM and say sub based would suck because most people have 5+ accounts(just to stay current). they don't want to pay for multiple accounts, so automatically, sub based is a bad idea. ofc not everyone thinks this, but still...(please, if this is wrong, correct me. explain why sub-based would turn you away, much like pyper very thoroughly did).

if, for conversation's sake, $15/month per account was the cost of the game. BUT, by paying $15, you would be negating the reasons to even HAVE multiple accounts(no need to farm endlessly on alts). paying $15 essentially took care of your stat farming, token farming, etc, on multiple accounts.

implement account-wide IS backpack, so that you do not need to buy the items on every char.

how horrible would that be?

just a suggestion...
btw, this is coming from somebody that has multiple accounts full of useless chars i just keep around just for fun...

darwec's point about having optional sub-based aspect is also interesting. maybe you get a set amount of dias per month, as well as perm IS reduction. there should not be any ingame restrictions(content, classes, slots, priority, etc) for non-subscribers though, imo...i've seen a couple games where that was a thing, and it completely turned me off of them, even if i was willing to pay for the subscription...it just drew a line in the playerbase that was impossible to breach, and you have even more stratification than RoM...

my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 12:10am

I have only one account and find the idea of a subscription totally absurd. Why would you want to emulate a failed model? With a few exceptions all the subscription based MMORPGHs have failed and almost all of them are now free to pay. The exceptions are bleeding subscribers, it is now over 200k lost subscribers per quarter for the biggest. When the biggest MMORPG set up a new game they set it up as free to play with a cash shop. They learned why can't you?
The subscription idea has been tried and it is a failure. You should look at what is happening the subscriber model has failed and the games that have tried it have gone out of business or have changed to Free to play with a cash shop. They are following ROMs system
So you want to move the game from a system that has succeeded and use one that has failed time and time again.
What is your fascination with failure?

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Cike

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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 12:19am

and RoM is soooo successful right now...best model for a game ever...

*rolls eyes*

if you also look at other f2p with cash shop games they are not QUITE as CS dependent...RoM is by far the MOST cash-shop dependent game i know of...

it is like comparing apples and oranges. i digress, i only intend to spark conversation because this thread has been so far pointless in it's discussion...

my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 12:37am

While tis true that sub games be failin, RoM system tis failin as well. The new model tis one that hast an IS, but they no sell power. This tis the exact opposite o RoM, an in fact, they be movin MORE towards a power based IS. This tis a failed model as well, an yer can see it when players consistently complain bout the expense o the game. Me playered an MMO afore RoM that only sold limited power through the IS, an they handily made money on "decorative" items. Me hast playered several MMOs recently that still be in beta, an they specifically said they NO tis gonner sell power thru the IS. Even in beta, they be makin plenty o money.

I dunnoes RoM's current financial status, but me can say this. IMHO, iffn they done doth wanner maker more money than they do, they should fixer their plusin gems, minorly decrease the prices o the gems (instead o increasin em, like they been doin), an get a better sales team. They hast a pretty good group workin as GMs at the moment, twould like ter see Beren replacered by someone who can communicate wit us as well as he done did, or even better.

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zidlef

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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 4:36am

Well as i said before cut down the prices in IS by 50% and more would come. To those who want a monthly payment to play because of this and because of that, well see ya in the funny papers. The IS needs to be adjusted, promos have to be done and ads too, then we would have more people, more players and those others can go play those other superbly engineered game they talk about. BTW why are you still here if those are SO GREAT?? stay overthere and enjoy yourselves.

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Tuesday, May 20th 2014, 5:10am

not a universal price drop though. puries shud go back up in price and drop plussing, runes, and everything else down such that net result is cheaper for "average" gear.

or just replace all jewels in dia/ptoken shop with perfects(at current price), and put the current IS jewels in the game as the current vendor jewels...

universal price drop just leads to tiering higher as "standard", and no actual reduction in the cost of the game.

my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Friday, May 23rd 2014, 4:52pm

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ok, so basically,
u all love this game
but if u have to actually pay for it, u will stop teh game

ok
so basically, i m the one comparing to other games
but if i have to pay for it, i will play this game

at least am TRYING to suggest things taht would help, instead of, like some of u, jsut throw rocks at me
u all say there are no GM, GF sending this gms to develop other games, while leaving rom here, no adverstise nothing
give them the money to do so
if paying per month is not good idea, then what about, buy once; for like 30-40 usd, then no month fee
only Darwec suggested something, and he got yelled at too

if i didn t like the game, why would i bother spending time here,
i love this game, but there are jsut too many things taht are wrong
and u all see taht,
and dont give me an exemple how many players enter in ur guild
u wanna gimme numbers, tell me how many HUNDREDS ,every months ,players enter in teh game, and are now high level ( not 85, obvisouly, but 57 at least, and gearing with the best the game offers )
dont tell me u dont see teh game content need to be changed?
dont tell u dont see that now, gearing is too expensive ?

UNLESS, since i m on server Artemis, the issues i ve stated above ONLY concern my server, and all the other servers
are FULL of players, just check in AH, wow, there are level 50-55-60-65-70 fulll set of gear to sell , and dias cost, what? 8 k per? and not 180 k per ? hold on, let me cehck teh price of a 65 OD, yey, nice 2 millions !!
and ANY random guy GUILDLESS takes less than 20 min to find a PUG party to run an instance?

ok, tell me where u are, i change server and i come join u, i call u god, i worship u everynight, i pray for u, and i send u some cookies and orange juice.

Look at this more logically........

A lot of people are f2p and the game would lose a hell of a lot more members meaning the even few playerbase would not be able to sustain the game.

Why would GF even think of a subscription as they would actually make more money now just from selling jewels alone than say a 10 dollar sub..........just wouldn't make financial or common sense my friend. Bigger better funded mmo's are now mostly f2p and lets be completely honest here why would the majority of players pay for a buggy game rather than go play say WoW or another game where the experience of not crashing every 2 minutes, quests broken or still in the game that cant be completed?

With a sub every month GF would have to fix a lot of the games current problems while at the same time adding a lot more varied content, they would not anymore be able to just give no information when after every maintenance something is broken.

Why give a player access to everything for 10 dollars a month when jewels from a player probably are worth more than that a month, factor in sales of mounts, pets and everything you see in IS today plus new dtuff from the database, they make more money this way im afraid and making Rom a subbed game would kill it dead very very quickly , maybe when the game had a million or 2 players it MAY have worked.

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