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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 7:47pm

Found this game at MMObomb have questions

Hi I recently was looking around for a game to play and bumped into this one from the MMObomb database. I will be honest I never even heard of it but after looking at some gameplay and videos I was a bit intrigued. Sounds a bit complicated the fusion of 3 classes but reminds me of like FFXI where you get a main job and sub job so I find that awesome. The couple of videos of reviews I did find however seemed very adamant on this game being very cash shop heavy. I still want to give it a shot and see how it goes, I got nothing to lose by trying it. With that being said maybe someone can help me in the direction to creating a cheap effective combo for me, also keeping in mind the following.

A class combo that is..
*Non cash shop heavy
*Easy to at least take on challenging / quest related mobs to advance in quest without to much trouble
*Has sustain power to be able to at least kill 4-5 mobs before resting for mp/hp (I have no idea how mana regeneration works here but in other games this is crucial)

My main purpose is..
*Be able to reach a decent level without spending and then be able to farm/attain wealth with such character, providing itself or other alts with income.
*PVE only (this can come in later as my first character will focus on mainly farming so PVP not interested)

Last question is regarding servers. I am looking for perhaps the most busy AH transaction wise / populated server?


I am currently at work and heading home in about 20 minutes or so after writing this. I hope for some replies and possibly some friend connections to the server I go to. I will be checking in a bit and downloading the game so thanks in advance for any help.

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 7:53pm

A class combo that is..
*Non cash shop heavy

Class does not dictate how much you can spend. But from years of playing, I have found the healer classes as the ones that can get away with upgrades less often which = less cash shop items.

*Easy to at least take on challenging / quest related mobs to advance in quest without to much trouble

Leveling in Rom is quests. Since the game is older many updates have been released with new zones, so there are alot of quests to do to reach the current high lv of 85. However they are almost all solo-able

*Has sustain power to be able to at least kill 4-5 mobs before resting for mp/hp (I have no idea how mana regeneration works here but in other games this is crucial)

Not a lot of "resting" in this game on normal mobs. We have burn classes for bosses that are amazing for 30 seconds then taper off, and we have classes that do lower but consistent damage. - If you choose to go healer due to cost then this won't apply as much.

Try Artimus for a good PVE server. Reni is ok but you got to deal with Zidlef there muhahaha.

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 8:17pm

This game is certainly worth a try, as are most f2p games, as, like you said, nothing to lose ;)

the triple class system is not truly a triple class system. you can only have 2 classes "active" at a time. you have a 3rd(4th, 5th, or 6th) class as just a pool to pick the 2 classes from. for example, if you are r/s/m, you can go r/s, r/m, s/r, s/m, m/r, m/s, all on the same char. you are not picking 3 classes to "fuse" together like r/s/m all at the same time. that being said, even having this pool with 2 classes active has a TON of flexibility. like the fact that r/s is NOT the same as s/r, nor is it the same as r/m. you have 3 types of skills: general, specific, elite. elite skills are unique to a certain main class paired with a certain secondary class(r/s gets different elites than s/r). specific skills are skills that you can only use while having that class as main, but are not limited by secondary choice(r/s gets same specific skills as r/m). general skills are skill that are available from the secondary class(scout has a general skill that allows you have have a bow and use shot, so all scouts, as well as all x/s combos have this ability as well).

just figured i'd try and clear this up.



i'll address a couple points individually...
*Non cash shop heavy
healers are by far the cheapest/easiest class to gear for pve. they can keep up with gear that is levels below, as healing is currently kinda OP...

next easiest is probably a OP dps class such as r/m or w/m(yes, ik they are not that OP anymore, but they are still easy to gear).

*Easy to at least take on challenging / quest related mobs to advance in quest without to much trouble
this is where healers fall short. sure, they won't die, but it takes forever to kill anything. if you have a friend that might want to quest with you, healer is great, as they can dps, and you can heal, etc...

but for solo questing, healer is painfully slow.

that being said, you can help this by getting some attack statted pieces of gear, as well as a more damage oriented subclass, and it will be faster, and couple almost match a dps class for questing speed.

dps classes have no trouble questing

tanky classes are in the same boat as healers, depending on class. some tanks are just armored dps, which quest fast, while others, like knights, are slow to quest with...


*Has sustain power to be able to at least kill 4-5 mobs before resting for mp/hp (I have no idea how mana regeneration works here but in other games this is crucial)
this isn't really a problem at all later in the game. mana pools get huge at high levels, and you rarely have to wait for HP to regen. picking up healer secondary class(druid, priest) allows you to heal on a dps char(no, they aren't big heals, or very useful in combat, but they are a large help recovering HP rapidly after a fight).

essentially, dps classes normally kill thing fast enough to not lose much HP, healers can heal easily(and no mana issues at all), and tanks don't lose much HP to begin with. that being said, depending on gear and such, u can normally go from 0HP/0MP to full in ~30 sec, even though you will rarely have to do that, as there is a multitude of pots/skills and such to help.


*Be able to reach a decent level without spending and then be able to farm/attain wealth with such character, providing itself or other alts with income.
*PVE only (this can come in later as my first character will focus on mainly farming so PVP not interested)
you can go f2p to lvl cap easily. the big cost of the game comes from endgame gearing. the game is essentially p2w, but if you just want to have fun, and don't care about having the shiniest new thing, or running latest HM instance, it isn't that expensive. plus, i think the lower geared/level people have more fun than endgamers :D

i honestly can't stress enough how much fun you can have in this game without being the most OP person ever, or having to spend a crapton on the game...in all honesty, some of the older content is the best imo.



Last question is regarding servers. I am looking for perhaps the most busy AH transaction wise / populated server?
some1 may come and correct me, but last i checked, indigo was the cheapest to gear on. they have some great people(from what i've seen), but it's a pvp server. not much pvp goes on anymore, or so i hear, so it is essentially just a pve server with free gear trading(normally u need to pay money to unbind gear to sell/trade/share).

if you are going for largest population, i think that would be artemis.

osha is also a decent choice.

reni also has alot of really helpful people, but beware the trolls ;)


my personal favorite server in palenque, the one i play, even though i have alts(that i do actually play sometimes) on most.

but now that you asked for server, prepare to be bombarded with "my server is the awesomestest, you should come here" posts that always pop up :P


if you have any more questions, don't be afraid to post or pm.
the IRC channel is also a great place if u have questions/concerns, as there are normally at least a couple experienced people(as well as usually a gm) lurking that can help. it can be found here or at the like at the top of the page.

good luck, have fun,

cike(palenque)
cikie(reni)
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my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

This post has been edited 4 times, last edit by "Cike" (May 29th 2014, 8:29pm)


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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 8:29pm

Dam guys great feedback this is great! So basically for what I see so far I shouldn't really worry to much about questing since it appears easy. I think for now with what both of you have said, I need a healing sub with a decent dps class to tackle these quest at a decent speed. Ok I think tonight the goal for me will be looking at both healer classes and dps and playing around a bit too see which one I find more fitting. As for server I think I will be going to most populated one which is Artemis as you guys indicated.

I will be there and my character name will be (if not taken) Xsehven. Hope to make some friends there and thanks again for that info I definitely took notes. I will be coming back to check often if anyone else has more tips or info.

:)

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 8:38pm

as always, for class selection, i advise rolling a couple "test toons" and playing them to lvl 15/15(shouldn't take too long). try one on each server you are considering, so you can kill 2 birds with 1 stone and check out both classes and servers at same time. there is nothing more disappointing than working on your main for months, then visiting another server/starting an alt and realizing u like that class/server better than your main.


also, while i LOVE hybrid classes(dps/healer combos and such), they are normally not viable at endgame, just a warning. they are, however, some of the funnest combos u will ever play, and most people that play them as main will tell you that they love their combo. if you have no intention of trying to jump to endgame, then i'd encourage you to go for the classes you like, not what people say is "viable" or "useful".

it does sound grim, but i figured i'd at least warn you so you don't get to lvl cap and go "why the heck are people laughing at me when i try and get into endgame runs???"

that being said, if you play a combo you like, then screw everybody else, you will be able to tell who's a real friend by who is willing to bring you on runs :P

don't take this as trying to discourage hybrid builds though, and if it does, i will be incredibly sorry i actually posted this.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 8:54pm

I would not worry about the hybrid for questing. If you go healers, you have priest and druid to pick from. There are threads in those sections that will help you decide 2nd, and 3rd classes for it.

Just quest on your healer side and use mage gear instead of healer gear and you will be fine. You get gear as you quest and you can also make some cheaply stated stuff if you find yourself struggling and then you will blow questing mobs away.

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 9:11pm

Oh no worries Cike, I have played so many MMOS to understand that certain classes are not raid worthy or that its just better to bring in someone more effective in a raid slot. My intentions right now are just to kick back and have some fun like you said and test some combos out. I am in game right now trying out the Mage and will follow that with priest. Really fun right now, just trying to learn about this TP system and how skills work. Its always fun discovering new games.

@Mrpushpop, you mention about both healers, I noticed for druid I have to go elf, I picked human right now to test mage and priest out. Does this mean I can't do like double healer combo or like mage / druid?

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 9:12pm

First off, welcome ter the game! Tis awesome ter haver new players, esp those who do abit o research afore wadin inter the ocean.

Secondly, iffn yer lookin fer aid on Artemis, looker me up, or me guild, Silentjustice. Guilds be a useful place ter gain game info, esp concernin the gearin process an also quest info. As well, there be useful buffs that yer can gain from the more established guilds.

Everyone who done posted afore was accurate, however, they done lefted out siege. Although tis only one hour a day, the rewards from siege twill aid yer in lvlin at the start, an aid yer in combat towards endgame. But ter siege, yer gonner needeth a guild. Tis only one hour o PVP a day, unless yer joins a guild that be siege junkies (they done do exist).

As fer classes, me started wit a priest in this game, an they be right, gearin be easy, but that tis mostly cause yer hast fewer healers than DPS (less competition fer gear/stats). But when me swappered ta rogue, twas like pushin the "Easy Button." Me almost feel like questin an whatnot on rogue tis cheatin, compared ter priest. The quests, events, even siege, be focused on rewardin the DPS the most. As fer which DPS be tops, that can change from release ter release, so no get too set on bein top now. Play what yer liketh... ranged, close hand, tank, or heals. Try out several different class combos. The game tis bout fun.

Luck in the game, mate, an me twill see yer on the battlefield.

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 9:24pm

First off, welcome ter the game! Tis awesome ter haver new players, esp those who do abit o research afore wadin inter the ocean.

Secondly, iffn yer lookin fer aid on Artemis, looker me up, or me guild, Silentjustice. Guilds be a useful place ter gain game info, esp concernin the gearin process an also quest info. As well, there be useful buffs that yer can gain from the more established guilds.

Everyone who done posted afore was accurate, however, they done lefted out siege. Although tis only one hour a day, the rewards from siege twill aid yer in lvlin at the start, an aid yer in combat towards endgame. But ter siege, yer gonner needeth a guild. Tis only one hour o PVP a day, unless yer joins a guild that be siege junkies (they done do exist).

As fer classes, me started wit a priest in this game, an they be right, gearin be easy, but that tis mostly cause yer hast fewer healers than DPS (less competition fer gear/stats). But when me swappered ta rogue, twas like pushin the "Easy Button." Me almost feel like questin an whatnot on rogue tis cheatin, compared ter priest. The quests, events, even siege, be focused on rewardin the DPS the most. As fer which DPS be tops, that can change from release ter release, so no get too set on bein top now. Play what yer liketh... ranged, close hand, tank, or heals. Try out several different class combos. The game tis bout fun.

Luck in the game, mate, an me twill see yer on the battlefield.
Hey Lemonater that would be great. I tried to whisper you but says you offline. Send me an invite when you can I would love to join you guys!

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 9:26pm

And if you not interested in learning 'pirate talk', go to Reni and bug Rustyx. :) (Proud owner of copyright Rustypedia (R) )

As for classes, some are better then others, depending on your style. If you like to be DPS class - FOTM is R/M, Wd/S, M/W, etc.

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 9:33pm

Everyone who done posted afore was accurate, however, they done lefted out siege. Although tis only one hour a day, the rewards from siege twill aid yer in lvlin at the start, an aid yer in combat towards endgame. But ter siege, yer gonner needeth a guild. Tis only one hour o PVP a day, unless yer joins a guild that be siege junkies (they done do exist).
if you aren't keen on pvp, you can always just sit at a tower afk while your guild fights. or, if they allow it, only join the last couple min, long enough to get prizes.

you mention about both healers, I noticed for druid I have to go elf, I picked human right now to test mage and priest out. Does this mean I can't do like double healer combo or like mage / druid?
there are a couple classes that cannot be used on certain races. dwarves can't use knight, warden, druid, scout, elves can't use knight, priest, champion, warlock, and humans cannot be warden, druid, champion, warlock.

so you cannot have a druid/priest or priest/druid, as they are different races. druid is elf, and priest is human/dwarf. an elf m/d is possible though.

easiest combos are magical dps/healer, such as m/d, m/p, wl/p. you can use the same dps gear to quest on both classes like pushpop said here:
Just quest on your healer side and use mage gear instead of healer gear and you will be fine.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 9:34pm

@Mrpushpop, you mention about both healers, I noticed for druid I have to go elf, I picked human right now to test mage and priest out. Does this mean I can't do like double healer combo or like mage / druid?


Not on that toon, no. You would need to make an elf to test druid combo. And, no, you can't have double healers.

Focus on healing is somewhat overstated IMO. While it is somewhat easier with healer, I would not pick class combo because of that. Class choices are basically about picking what you want to do well when you level up. Your choices are (a) PVE, (b) PVP and (1) DPS, (2) Tank, (3) Heal. Maybe (4) support, although support classes are rarely appreciated and wanted much.

And, yeah, what Atarmonkey said. Go Reni. Most cool people are on Reni.
-- Rustyx --- 92R / 92S / 92M on Reni (Guild KnightShift). Yes, running the new FOTM R/M, cause I am not elf enough to be WD/S.

Oh, and people who have more than 3 classes are clinically insane.


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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 9:41pm

while rusty is 100% right for most of the game, i personally like to have a healing subclass. some people would rather more dps. it all personal preference. if you are lower geared, healing subclass would probably be more helpful than well geared. plus, relying on pots while questing if you need to gain HP is just annoying imo.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 9:58pm

I only brought up healing because he said low cost. Healers are without a doubt the cheapest classes to play because you can several updates without regearing and still heal effectively. As a DPS, you are always upgrading to keep up with the other DPS who are upgrading. IF you are setting up a raid you always invite the powerful dps first. I never care about how geared the healer is, as long as they keep me alive and you can do that in lv 70 gear.

Also Rusty your comment about support classes hurt my soul

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 10:09pm

A class combo that is.. *Non cash shop heavy

You can pick any class you like and let it be as cash-shop dependent as you like. You will need to spend either some money or spend a lot of time farming ingame to participate in endgame instances but if you're happy holding back a bit and running some lower instances, you won't need to be so dependent on the cash shop items.

In the past 2 years, we've had several improvements to the endgame-level areas and minigames that make it easier to get decent stats to gear up a bit too. :)

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 10:15pm

Sorry, Mrpushpop. But it is usually true. In my experience, only high end endgamer guilds tend to appreciate support classes. That is because they tend to run instances that need full 12-man party of well geared people, pulling every single advantage they are capable of. A support person who effectively buffs 11 other people or effectively debuffs boss is worth more than another DPS in such a party.

But we digress... OP is new character and not quite up to the level of planning endgamer raids. Although early planning is good, that role is too unconventional, IMO, to recommend a new player.

Healing... yeah, healers are relatively cheap to gear, and a good guild will take care of healers to make sure they have what gear and stats they need. Still, not everyone wants to be a healer main, and healer off-class is not that important, IMO. Classes that excel as /healer (like Knight/Priest) do it because of good elites, not because they heal well.

Also, healers and tanks are notoriously slow levelers, so make less than optimal choice for learning game. Once you know what you are doing, sure... but as first toon, I don't want to whittle down that mushroom for 30 seconds while a nearby rogue 2-hits it.
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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 10:33pm

I agree with Vwiffo on the healer off-class being unnecessary. Even for new characters I believe it's easier to level not going that route, though, as Cike said, it's a matter of personal choice.

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Thursday, May 29th 2014, 10:47pm

I'm with Cike on this one, and a lot of others in my party ( that don't have off heals ) think my druid 2nd is very helpfull

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Friday, May 30th 2014, 2:39am

I would like to add, if you want to make it to the true "endgame" level, you must buy dias.. It's sad, but true.
If you really want to be endgame level w/o paying a cent, be ready to farm for hours until you can accumulate enough gold to buy whatever it is that you need.

Other than that, you can make yourself a very viable player that helps in many different ways. Lots of class combos/races to play around with. Most servers are always lacking quality tanks, and tanks are cheaper to make than a crazy dps Rogue/Mage. Any mage dps class is expensive due to Int/MagicalAttack stats being so expensive and rare. The dwarf classes are very interesting and are viable in an endgame instance. I highly recommend you do NOT go Scout primary, due to its failness at the moment. Healing classes are the cheapest to acquire endgame status and are easiest to maintain, due to healing skills being overpowered. Of course all this does take skill, or a good understanding of macros or scripting for addons/DIYCE/ingame macros.

As for questing, you don't need a 2ndary healing class, but it sure helps. I don't like wasting my slots on something I won't use at the endgame level. Unless you want to be a healer class, then go crazy.

As for server, Artemis is the most populated, but Reni is where it's at. Not overly populated, but more than enough to make the AH viable and the player interactions fun. (Cike was right) *Boasts his love for Reni*

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This game is the best game out there. When it comes to the statting/customization you can do to your gear/player, it isn't matched in anyway. The only complaint I have about this game is the Sale team. Customer Support used to be an issue but they seemed to have corrected that, at least with me they have. I love this game and don't see myself quitting unless it dies. If you have questions feel free to msg me on here or in game. I'll be that guy in world getting hated on by the server.

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Friday, May 30th 2014, 3:21am

^ Do not listen to this chump. He is just a scrub that does not know what he is talking about.

I always lived healthy and enjoyed 5 wonderful years of playing RoM. But your post gave me cancer anyway.



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