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what a kinky statement there doomed XD... miss ya bro especially with the insert happiness inserted in there har har.

on topic. i agree. XD

yeah little lame to not post them ahead of time.

I would like to think that the reason they aren't is

1) they might be fixing something exploitable and don't want to tell people to quickly run and exploit it tonight
2) they might not be sure if the new zone, instance, etc might be ready, so they don't want to tell us it will, then to patch and have to leave it out.
3) they might not want doom and gloom if they are "class rebalancing"


There are a lot of reasons. Personally I say if it is 2 they just should delay it instead of "Possibly" getting it done. 1) I understand, while 3) if they do that, they are gonna get the QQ one way or another... so just get it started now.

As i am sure has been mentioned before, though most probably still do not believe it.

The patch notes are posted to the public IMMEDIATELY after we receive them.

Is this ideal being after the patch? probably not, but that is the way it is and i actually kind of enjoy the suspense of not knowing what is coming until it does.

maybe you mistook my post, by THEY I meant RW... not GF.

don't they have a test server they check stuff on? Saito started posting screenshots how long ago of the new content? I would think in all honesty they got the patchnotes then. Whether they actually gave them to the GMs at that time is a whole nother story

there are videos out there of 90 content.. 92 content, 100 content, etc. so yes there is def a different servor they test on or w/e

If I had to guess, most of those zones are already in the game and the barriers set in place are the only thing stopping us from walking around just like the videos. Those videos are almost certainly created by analyzing the code of the game in it's current state. Which is why models aren't present, im sure they have a separate server for testing with the models and everything, but the zones are already there

Quoted from "Heimdallthewise"

If I had to guess, most of those zones are already in the game and the barriers set in place are the only thing stopping us from walking around just like the videos. Those videos are almost certainly created by analyzing the code of the game in it's current state. Which is why models aren't present, im sure they have a separate server for testing with the models and everything, but the zones are already there

yeh, you can get into the next zone currently, but even if you do you hit their barrier that auto-ports you to your recall point.

I could care less about patch notes after a patch... what gets me is that we had a maintenance & a patch 2 days later? shoulda just waited on the maint.

Anyone who ever dealt with software release should know how 80% of work is done in last few hours/days before release. The other 20% is after release.

I don't want to spoil it for anyone, especially since we are months if not years away from it, but instance lvl 92, 97, and 100 look pretty darn sweet. They really did outdo themselves with those. I'm looking forward to new content.

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I don't want to spoil it for anyone, especially since we are months if not years away from it, but instance lvl 92, 97, and 100 look pretty darn sweet. They really did outdo themselves with those. I'm looking forward to new content.

All because the instance looks cool doesn't mean the instance itself is good. Too often the make some cool looking dungeon and then all the bosses are burns and/or give (edited by Isopod) loot that no one wants.

Please dont forget our forum rules.

NO rusty is right, not just in development environments.

First, Blizzard and EVERY game they have ever developed. Has ONE been released on time?

Second, Government contracts, Healthcare.gov website anyone?

Third, government construction contracts, maybe 2% are done on schedule.

Fourth, Dish Network and DirecTV new equipment gets pushed on release dates 2-3 times per new device also.

It is the world we live in. People say they can hit an earlier deadline then actually possible so that they get the contract. Then they get an extension to make more money on the project.

To comment about customers being happy? People still buy from Blizzard, people still have DirecTV and Dish Network... so the customers may not be happy but they keep buying now don't they?

Working as a Project Manager on a couple projects in big and small companies as well as some private server (for other games) development projects I completely agree with Rusty. It's a very small amount of projects that get released on time. Changes are finalized AFTER the patch/new version goes live. Why? Because if you've messed something up in the patch process and it doesn't work and it has to be removed, now you have to go back to the customer/community and be like "sorry, but I lied, that change won't be in". It's a very stupid move to make yourself look like that. Therefore, it is pretty common for patch notes or changelogs to go public AFTER a patch or version release.

This is the way its always been done in RoM. Why are people NOW complaining about it?

In my company we have monthly maintenance patches on our AIX servers. Prior to the patches going into affect a document is released explaining each change within the patch including what the issue was, what is changing, what to expect to see differently, and any info the end users may need to know. It's called Change Management and with RoM, that process is obviously broken.

Quoted from "Naveecheefe"

In my company we have monthly maintenance patches on our AIX servers. Prior to the patches going into affect a document is released explaining each change within the patch including what the issue was, what is changing, what to expect to see differently, and any info the end users may need to know. It's called Change Management and with RoM, that process is obviously broken.

This is not even remotely the same situation and therefore cannot be used as a valid comparison. Patching entire server operating systems is obviously going to have its changes released ahead of time because 1) The developer has entire clusters of servers to test things on, therefore they can come up with every situation imaginable before a patch is even thought of and 2) Releasing a change that's broken/missing/bugged/exploitable is not only detrimental to your customers from an unprepared standpoint, it also leaves you vulnerable to lawsuits because your company knowingly released something that affected security of the system. In banks, trading systems or other financial systems this is especially important.

This is a video game. For valid comparison you would look at other MMO's (ESO never releases their COMPLETE patch notes ahead of time, nor does WoW, EVE, FFXIV, or any of the other really big ones). You could also look at some small development projects and notice they never release patch notes or version change information ahead of time except maybe an hour or two once they're certain the changes have taken effect correctly and everything is bug free.

Again, small projects and video games never publish changes ahead of time unless they have open bug testing/beta opt-in programs (Minecraft is a good example of this). Otherwise, you're just barking up the wrong tree when you complain about stuff like this. I don't ever see it changing because then Gameforge would dig an even bigger hole with its customers "loyalty" when a patch is announced and then it doesn't happen so no need to discuss further.