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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 7:20pm

Priest class update?

Is there any word about a possible priest class rebalance or update coming up? I am just curious about this because it is getting impossible to quest as a p/K for level 87. Just updating the skills to be more level with the difficulty would be great. Or removing some caps on the priest class would do wonders. Any info would be much appreciated.
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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 8:38pm

Note: This is just my opinion based on observations from my perspective, and I won't claim to be right.

As far as I've seen, healers don't stat a single point of matk, and you simply can't expect to do any damage with 3 x stam/def and 3 x stam/hp. Even tanks stat a little bit of patk on their gear too. Now, if P/K had terrible survivability in SW, I can understand. But from my experience, P/K's way outlive tank easily in SW already, as P/K has both large Pdef and Mdef, whereas most tanks have no Mdef to speak of.

Also, in full mage gear, Rising tide does hit as hard as a 2 second cast time mage spell already. So from my perspective, it seems like their inability to damage stems more from paying the price of making a non-tank class even more tanky than a tank than from the way the class is designed (I know a group of people can kill a P/K, but that same group of people will murder a tank twice as fast). Also, I mention PvP because there should be no reason ANYBODY needs 500k HP, 300k Pdef and 300k Mdef for questing or for instances, unless you're trying to tank the instance. If DPS can live with a fifth of that survivability in an instance, there's no reason a healer can't.

Although 1 idea I do have to allow a much easier time to quest on a P/K is similar to what champions get. Give priests a skill where when RT is casted, RT cast time is reduced to 1 second for 10 seconds, and the effect can be triggered every 20 secs, also decreases their Pdef and Mdef by 50% and increases their matk by 10% + 30k, lasts 20 minutes and has a 20 minute CD ( so it can't be toggled on/off in SW for a P/K to suddenly ninja someone for 80k damage then go back to invincibility). This might also help DPS priest classes and make them possible, such as P/S, which gives many indications that it was designed as a DPS class.
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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 8:40pm

ohhh ive seen this thread before :) and i get to be first troll to say... make some mage gear quest as p/s GO.
Then people say i shouldnt have to... etc etc etc.
then someone says dont hate the player hate the game....
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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 9:38pm

Evan going p/s in full mage gear it isnt easy to quest the cd on ib means if you get multiple mobs you can die very easily.only good solution is to have a quest buddy
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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 9:55pm

I personally found questing as P/m instead of P/s was better for me when we had the cap increase from 82 to 85 ofc with some mage gears ;)
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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 9:57pm

Rui hit it on the head.


As for p/s questing isn't viable. That is just plain wrong. You cant run in and get 12 things on you and kill them all fast. That is true. However, taking mobs 1 at a time with Rising tide/Iceblade combos is a more than viable hunting method. You are a priest, you will never kill as fast as a mage on mobs. I have NEVER...EVER... never ever ever NEVER almost died on my p/s with mage gear while questing. Now I don't go Ramboing in, I just target one, kill, move to the next. You heal more than my m/p which has always been enough to stay alive. Stop hoping by making your comment that you will convince everyone that IB needs to be returned to its previous glory... sorry.


If you are questing solo on a p/s don't try to AOE kill, remember to heal yourself, you will be fine. The only exception being the elites in the new zone.


Now it is ALWAYS better to quest with a DPS class that is geared, or use another of your own characters to help out when questing. However my two P/Ks stam/def statted do pretty well questing. Takes longer than all my other chars... but they can do it.

Priest doesn't need an update for that.

You can /close this thread since it is just another repeat thread, that really should be in the priest section, where this has been discussed to death.

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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 10:41pm

only thing I feel priests legitimately lack is an aoe. other than that, even RT spam is fine for questing if you have some MA.

also +1 on ruisens "attack mode" idea.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 11:26pm

I just finished questing to 87 on my p/m today with no problems and the elites didn't come close to killing me. With p/m you can use Rising Tide, Ice Wind Blade, Fireball, Lightning, Silence, and Freeze (when multiple mobs come at you). Shoot, even my lv50 Chain of Light would kill most mobs before i get hit.

Now of course I did this with mage gear and a 2h staff, so I had magical attack. I think the main problem priests have with questing is that they don't have matk...
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Sunday, July 13th 2014, 1:01am

As far as I've seen, healers don't stat a single point of matk, and you simply can't expect to do any damage with 3 x stam/def and 3 x stam/hp.

...inability to damage stems more from paying the price of making a non-tank class even more tanky than a tank.

I made a similar observation on a EN thread where people were discussing the 'crap' stat Wisdom/Magic Attack and how nobody needed it.

Personally, I have no difficulty playing P/M with my gear which includes Wisdom/Magic Attack stats and wonder how it is that people complain about how slowly priests kill stuff. Then again, I'm using Mage-statted accessories, cape and a mage staff but that's only because I don't have full Priest stuff.
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Sunday, July 13th 2014, 2:50am

Damn it Cerb beat me to it!!!!! lol ;-)

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Sunday, July 13th 2014, 5:00am

Priest questing isn't a problem. Make a staff and stat some mage accessories and you're fine. Though the one thing that the priest class does need is an aoe for damage. They're the only class that doesn't have one.
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Monday, July 14th 2014, 4:18am

Well they could give us Iceblade back as to now they actually broke it, think i'm gonna make a thread for M/WD with machine gun or Mage warrior exploiting their uber buff they get from Str/stam stat etc!!!!

I WANT MY ICEBLADE BACK!!!!!

Give the priests what is rightfully theirs and fix it!!!! Then we would have balance and people crying about iceblade, well they only cry about it in PVP and i couldn't care less about it. It was the best skill for a priest to quest and be on par with the rest of the classes.

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Monday, July 14th 2014, 5:05am

ice blade "fixes" exactly 1 combo. last I checked there were a lot more than 1 priest combos. that being said, I would like to see IB back with either a % mana cost or focus cost.

other than an aoe, priests need nothing to "keep up" with other classes during questing.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Monday, July 14th 2014, 10:35am

always thought bone chill + ice fog would make a natural aoe

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Monday, July 14th 2014, 1:16pm

Yeah, ice fog I, II & III should be removed & replaced w/ a levelable ice fog that's a duration based aoe, kinda like a trap. based on the level, the ice fog sits in the area for x amount of seconds. Anyone running through it takes dot damage and is slowed. Slow effect increases weapon attack time and casting time by y amount of seconds.

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Monday, July 14th 2014, 7:45pm

I want fairies gone and replaced with an toggled buff similar to how champions get their 70 elite. It makes no sense that they can have their buff wherever they are, but I have to wait for a fairy that never makes it and lose 300+% dps off my main attack, & 20% crit off my rage attack as a p\w.

It's stupid. GET RID OF THE DUMB FAIRIES! :missilelauncher:

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Monday, July 14th 2014, 7:54pm

It's stupid. GET RID OF THE DUMB FAIRIES!


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Monday, July 14th 2014, 9:19pm

Well they could give us Iceblade back as to now they actually broke it, think i'm gonna make a thread for M/WD with machine gun or Mage warrior exploiting their uber buff they get from Str/stam stat etc!!!!

I WANT MY ICEBLADE BACK!!!!!

Give the priests what is rightfully theirs and fix it!!!! Then we would have balance and people crying about iceblade, well they only cry about it in PVP and i couldn't care less about it. It was the best skill for a priest to quest and be on par with the rest of the classes.
It makes me all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that you guys will NEVER get Iceblade back. :D Was so OP and got nerfed to oblivion as it should be. P/S Statting mage and diyce in siege. No skill necessary. Press 1, receive kills. GG

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Monday, July 14th 2014, 9:32pm

Using diyce for p/s, that's hilarious. I also find it hard to believe p/s would be able to do anything to people with 3-500k hp and honor gear in pvp. With people taking longer than half a second to die nowadays, p/s would be kinda helpless, it isn't like there are stuns, silences, roots or anything else useful it could do to an enemy.
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Monday, July 14th 2014, 10:16pm

Well i truly hope they remove the exploit Mage/warrior use by statting Str/stam stats, then we will see people complain they broke another class loll. Want to make classes more equal stop breaking them cause people get killed by them, then nerf rogues and that has been ask for years. Equality for all!!!! ;-)

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