Runes of Magic US / AU

the PoM event with IDK, HotO, and TT was nice.

would be worth another run. just too bad they can't change up the instances a bit, make the next event like clops, MA, LoDD, sardo, AC, KT...

The German GM's are very good at coming up with ideas for events which tend to go global across all communities, but if anyone can think up something along similar lines as the TT, IDK, HotO event, then please PM me with details and I'll give you some feedback and pass on any ideas which could work.

I think the point of using the instances they did was to make sure that they required some work on the user's part to run. Using instances like FA, MA, NoM, Sardo don't require attunement and therefore are easy farming, not good, makes it too easy.

I would have been nice if the required item dropped off the last boss of each of the instances used, not the first or second boss, requiring even more effort on the part of the player to obtain one of these difficult items to obtain.

That wouldnt deter anyone.

Anyone who's going to farm the event instances (in this case, for POMs) would be more than willing to run the whole instances to the last boss multiple times if needed without blinking an eye. If it can exploited (in this case, running new alts thru it with minimal attunement effort once a day) then people are going to take advantage of it.

Im all for a new event. POMs or whatever. I usually end up just selling the POMs for tier stones anyways lol


If you want to fix the exploitation of POM events, make them bound. Then we couldnt sell them. Sure you could run alts thru still. But your POM pulls would require either a puri for the stat to give to your main or to sell, or you would need an ABL to send the piece (OD or not) to your main or to sell.


As a side note, i dont think anyone aside from Disturbed cares whether its their anniversary or not. Certainly not GF to release an event this week because its Disturbed's anniversary.

If thats the case, i'd like a GM event for us. So we can have a "Tribal" time in game with you guys when its our anniversary. /roll eyes

ok here is how I look at this

1) Yes I am always for events, and I think it has been long enough

2) You can NEVER reduce "exploitation". I put the "" on it cause some people think that running alts is an exploit... regardless of what level/gear they have. I have "alts with 80k hp, 90k ma.attk. Is that a char I shouldn't be able to run through the PoM events, just because it is my "ALT"? I gear all my alts, maybe not the greatest gear, but they are geared to run stuff solo. Therefore I take offense to running my alts through the events as "exploitation". Now ill address in 3) a valid point to the alt and exploitation point.

3) Yes people will make new low level alts if it is at all possible to get extra PoMs off of them. See the anniversary chest game for +20 gems. I can see where people have a valid point about that. This is where I thought the last PoM event did a decent job. You had to level, to therefore attune, to then be able to do it. So I think the same idea could be applied on a higher scale. I cant remember if GC Easy requires attunement, or other higher level instances on easy mode. As people said, IDK 35 was a little low, easy to power level to that point then attune and drag. So to reduce exploitation, you need it to require a character high enough it is not a quick powerlevel to get there and attuned... While at the same time not isolating newer players.

4) The shell event was pretty decent since requires level 50 for shells and Ptokens, however that didn't really slow people down. It is a hard thing for them to balance these things to not be exploitable. The Rune hand in one, had people botting to their hearts content to get more.


I think the only way to limit the exploitation is to put a high enough level requirement and attunement. But not so high that most players are excluded, like anything 65+ normal mode would not help that many players. It is a hard thing to limit.

I think ours is like 4 years old... it is a bunch of inactives and just me and my gf at the time with all our alts lol.

Sometimes I think big guilds just don't work well for us, cause we always end up coming back to our own little guild lol.

Quoted from "Dkjester"

ok here is how I look at this


2) You can NEVER reduce "exploitation". I put the "" on it cause some people think that running alts is an exploit... regardless of what level/gear they have. I have "alts with 80k hp, 90k ma.attk. Is that a char I shouldn't be able to run through the PoM events, just because it is my "ALT"? I gear all my alts, maybe not the greatest gear, but they are geared to run stuff solo. Therefore I take offense to running my alts through the events as "exploitation". Now ill address in 3) a valid point to the alt and exploitation point.

Your opinion is to be respected. But quite frankly, I'm personally indifferent to whether or not i have offended you. We are both entitled to our opinions, mine just happens to be different than yours.

Furthermore, that wasn't the point i was making, so as to why you took offense to what i said is a moot point because thats not what i said. In fact i was quite clear in what I said.

If you've got an ACTUAL alt, and have it decently geared (in your exqmple, 80k HP, 90k MATTk) you're perfectly capable of running that by yourself without dragging it along on auto-follow behind your main. Go crazy.


What i was referring to (and what i clearly used as an example of) was the creation of alts and using like 20 10k exp orbs to level a gearless toon up enough to drag behind your main thru the very easy attunements and very easy instance runs.


And for once i am inclined to say Zid has a decent suggestion.Tribe has been around for just as long if not longer and has maintained a lot of the same core members and "mission statement" since its inception. So a game wide event for all to enjoy in the name of veteran guilds wouldnt be a bad reason, and i could get behind that cause.

we ever gonna get the TBT event back? i know it was run a while ago, but will there be a next time?

Quoted from "acypcar90"

Quoted from "Dkjester"

ok here is how I look at this


2) You can NEVER reduce "exploitation". I put the "" on it cause some people think that running alts is an exploit... regardless of what level/gear they have. I have "alts with 80k hp, 90k ma.attk. Is that a char I shouldn't be able to run through the PoM events, just because it is my "ALT"? I gear all my alts, maybe not the greatest gear, but they are geared to run stuff solo. Therefore I take offense to running my alts through the events as "exploitation". Now ill address in 3) a valid point to the alt and exploitation point.

Your opinion is to be respected. But quite frankly, I'm personally indifferent to whether or not i have offended you. We are both entitled to our opinions, mine just happens to be different than yours.

Furthermore, that wasn't the point i was making, so as to why you took offense to what i said is a moot point because thats not what i said. In fact i was quite clear in what I said.

If you've got an ACTUAL alt, and have it decently geared (in your exqmple, 80k HP, 90k MATTk) you're perfectly capable of running that by yourself without dragging it along on auto-follow behind your main. Go crazy.


What i was referring to (and what i clearly used as an example of) was the creation of alts and using like 20 10k exp orbs to level a gearless toon up enough to drag behind your main thru the very easy attunements and very easy instance runs.


And for once i am inclined to say Zid has a decent suggestion.Tribe has been around for just as long if not longer and has maintained a lot of the same core members and "mission statement" since its inception. So a game wide event for all to enjoy in the name of veteran guilds wouldnt be a bad reason, and i could get behind that cause.

I put that in there, not really for you. However, people in game have called me an exploiter because of the fact I have geared alts. So I was just addressing the entire subject, not just responding to you. Your comments didn't offend me at all, it just made me think of the players I have encountered that HAVE called me an exploiter for the fact that we have so many alts. However, we level our alts, and gear them. (except for our p token alts, but they are on accounts with others so account limitations affect those chars, which I am ok with) I just figured I would hit on that topic with my post, but not directed at you, but more at people reading the thread that might be guilty of such actions.

I am glad you see it the way I do, the ones that blatantly were leveling new chars, or using accounts full of level 1s for plussing gems, I am thinking that GF coulda thought of that ahead of time and prevented it.

Quoted from "zidlef"

Well as one of the oldest guild on Reni and other servers, also still running strong and together. It would be nice for Gameforge to acknowledge guilds that have been here for more than 5 year plus. So many have come and gone, just like the players. We are still standing and never changed who we are or stand for. Friendly, helpful, honest and the best trolls!! loll.

If your guild is 5 year plus, you should also ask for an event, since not many guilds can say the same ;-) I love to see guilds up and coming and trying their best, don't let anybody bring you down, a lot have done it to us, where are they now?? loll. We are still here ;-)


But i love events for rubies since they give a chance to smaller guilds to upgrade their buildings and castle, like it did for us.

Now days any guild that has been together a year or more is a rarity. BTW today is our 4 year anniversary, I guess I should post a yay thread somewhere lol

Since a lot of us (hoarders) still have black bars, it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring that event back.

Quoted from "Dkjester"

Quoted from "acypcar90"

Quoted from "Dkjester"

ok here is how I look at this


2) You can NEVER reduce "exploitation". I put the "" on it cause some people think that running alts is an exploit... regardless of what level/gear they have. I have "alts with 80k hp, 90k ma.attk. Is that a char I shouldn't be able to run through the PoM events, just because it is my "ALT"? I gear all my alts, maybe not the greatest gear, but they are geared to run stuff solo. Therefore I take offense to running my alts through the events as "exploitation". Now ill address in 3) a valid point to the alt and exploitation point.

Your opinion is to be respected. But quite frankly, I'm personally indifferent to whether or not i have offended you. We are both entitled to our opinions, mine just happens to be different than yours.

Furthermore, that wasn't the point i was making, so as to why you took offense to what i said is a moot point because thats not what i said. In fact i was quite clear in what I said.

If you've got an ACTUAL alt, and have it decently geared (in your exqmple, 80k HP, 90k MATTk) you're perfectly capable of running that by yourself without dragging it along on auto-follow behind your main. Go crazy.


What i was referring to (and what i clearly used as an example of) was the creation of alts and using like 20 10k exp orbs to level a gearless toon up enough to drag behind your main thru the very easy attunements and very easy instance runs.


And for once i am inclined to say Zid has a decent suggestion.Tribe has been around for just as long if not longer and has maintained a lot of the same core members and "mission statement" since its inception. So a game wide event for all to enjoy in the name of veteran guilds wouldnt be a bad reason, and i could get behind that cause.

I put that in there, not really for you. However, people in game have called me an exploiter because of the fact I have geared alts. So I was just addressing the entire subject, not just responding to you. Your comments didn't offend me at all, it just made me think of the players I have encountered that HAVE called me an exploiter for the fact that we have so many alts. However, we level our alts, and gear them. (except for our p token alts, but they are on accounts with others so account limitations affect those chars, which I am ok with) I just figured I would hit on that topic with my post, but not directed at you, but more at people reading the thread that might be guilty of such actions.

I am glad you see it the way I do, the ones that blatantly were leveling new chars, or using accounts full of level 1s for plussing gems, I am thinking that GF coulda thought of that ahead of time and prevented it.

Hello everyone, I am really curious as to why it matters what others do, to level the alts and drag them along....if I remember correctly the last pom event you had to take each alt thru separately in order to get the quest pieces. So the GF/RW did think about the alt invasion for PoMs.....they limited you more via time than with alts....it was an awesome PoM event let me point out the way they attempted to restrict the altoholic issues ( I am a horrible Altoholic so this is not bashing ):
1. Only could be done once per day per account.
2. The Quest Item only dropped for one character, so you had to run each charcter thru IDK ( cannot rem if the rest were this way )
3. You had to be of level and they all required you to have attunement. So this alone limited a lot of people to just being able to run one of the events (Ice Dwarf Kingdom...which did if I rem correctly have the best reward ), they wanted all their players to be able to obtain or complete at least some part of the event.
4. So the main restriction due to the previous points is Time...it takes time no matter how you do it and resources to limit your time.

So if gameforge/runewaker did not think of the alt issues then I am really baffled.

Something you may not even consider is to run alts usually ends up in more money/time spent in and on the game. So I do not see an issue with people running mad amounts of alts ( good luck having that much free time ) just to try and gain a slight advantage.

The plussing gems ( Secret Garden Mini Game ) still would require most people to have to use Cash Items to use the plussing gems on gears. So once again I really could not see GF/RW having issues with people using as many alts as possible to get the items they wanted as along as it will promote spending on their product.

Sorry a bit of rambling, just think this game is more favorable towards people running a lot of alts. So it should be with the amount of class combinations available it is a good thing if people are playing and trying out different combos even if they are trying to do so to gain an advantage or bypass some costs. If they are playing they are spending.

And hey since I am hanging around again due to the crafting festival if they want to do another awesome Proof of Myth/Guild Resources/Pet Resources event I am all for it, that anniversary event was great IMO.

Should have the Halloween event coming up soon I hope, the mini Malatina's game I hope returns.

Yoritomo ( Reni ~ Lostdreamers )

I was just saying that they could have used a higher dung then IDK35, I thought TT and HoTo were great choices! With IDK though, which it was funny to see high levels dieing to the cook, it just took a few xp orbs and you were ready with another alt to attune. That is what I meant by them not thinking about the alts enough.

I am an altohokic like you... right now we have... like 14 85+ chars, we love alts and will always give GF more money for more alts. That being said I thought they did a decent job, but it was too easy and profitable with IDK35. Hoto gave one pom?!?! really? yet you could get like what, 4?, from IDK35?? Should have make it IDK50 required, or Origin, or another higher level attunement required dung. I think that was there misstep with alts, IDK35 was too low, like if they had NoM in it... and gave 4 Poms for NoM. Now maybe they intended IDK50, and oopsed so that IDK35 worked.

I am ok with people who have alts, who play alts, who actually put time into them, and care about them (Heck I am one of them!)... However the ones that just make one for a specific event is not what I consider and Altaholic and I can see the point that it looks like an exploit in that case. AGAIN, however, they will never get rid of those with the ability to bend the rules without breaking them. They just have to think and plan as hard as they can to try to prevent as much exploitation as they can. They will never get rid of it though.

I agree with you though, I get really tired of people calling me an exploiter because I play my alts every day or every other day constantly... Not like I am just making them for events...

@darkjester

Nice to hear man, some of those alts can turn into our mains sometimes. Sorry to hear people give you such a hard time, join Reni if you want man cause I have never had anyone give me crap or call me names for running a ton o alts. They tease me some but nothing that is not based on just goofing off.

@ acypcar90

I will disagree with your opinion about Events based on the players accomplishments or loyalty, longevity.

How awesome would it be if the game dudes ( GF/RW whomever ) incorporated some type of application that allowed them to set up/design special Quests/Events based on their players/guilds.

Not sure how to suggest in a short way....

Zid hope you don't mind me using your guild as an example.

Say since Disturbed is celebrating their anniversary ( congrats on going strong by the way man ), how awesome would it be for GF/RW to do something like set up a special mini game or something via drill ground in Disturbed Castle ( downside? would be everyone would have to be allowed access into your guild castle ) for like one week or something ( this way the guild gets to show off its castle a bit ) where the rewards were focused around guild mats/resources, maybe lucky rewards could be CS items like Big Angel Sighs/Phoenix redemptions/Purified Fusion Stones ( sorta stuff you can obtain from doing your guild castle daily quest ) or even set something up where you get a quest from Disturbed Daily Quest Board--- so the guild would have to have already met some building requirements before they could qualify for this type of event.

Maybe the rewards could be Forest strong Cake and Rainbow Crystal Candy ....haha j/k but could be birthday cake, like they do for other events where they give out candies/foods that act as Phirius Potions....name it Cake and Ice Cream?!?!?!?

I just think it would be sorta neat if they did do special things such as this suggestion for the players, a lot of business' do offer rewards for loyalty to their product....so call this a Guild Loyalty Celebration Event...just rambling again.

Gratz Zidlef and Disturbed.


Yoritomo ( Reni - Lostdreamers )

am i the only one that remembers the point of the black bars? (hint: TBT)

i think some people here are trying to reinvent the wheel, but if we threw out our old wheel and all the plans, why not reinvent it :)


more events is good though(for now).

I don't think you understood my post.

I was talking about the fact that we already have a guild-oriented GM event. which was pretty much exactly what you all keep trying to "invent".

hence, "reinventing the wheel".

instead of trying to "design" a new gm event for guilds, why can't we just ask them if they can rerun the event that is already created?

my post was relevant, on topic, and actually had a point.