Runes of Magic US / AU

Soooo I was reading the 'why rom is a burn thread', I see It a really old thread my bad for choosing to spend my life on these forums like some do!! Its a really nice read and I can see the points of views of both sides, but ONE post in particular caught my attention that I must respond to. Darwec I luv ya in a bro luv kind of way!! But you really should refrain from making comments about classes your not familiar with. It's these closed minded attitudes that make other classes "non-viable" cause nobody wants to bother trying them when there is an easy/already mapped way to end game (aka r/m and others).

Quoted from darwec.
Im going to make the argument that there are very few classes that are not viable.
Clearly there are top DPS classes. R/m wd/w w/wd champs m/w all do fairly amazingly.
Then there are classes that are still good dps, just not quite the op classes of the time. R/s r/wd all other mages.
Then you have a few utility based classes who maybe dont do amazing dps but are good for buffs and debuffs. Good enough that they are more benifical than uber dps classes. M/wl k/w s/r or s/w in some cases. R/wd and w/wd both provide good group buffs and do acceptable damage out put.
Then there are terribly broken classes like r/d and the other scout combos. R/d has a nice crit buff, but thats all it brings and its not enough to replace a full dps. The m/wl debuffs are enough to account for multiple dps additions, but r/d cant stand up like that. most warrior combos other than w/wd are slipping behind. Those are the classes taht need work.

Mages can survive. If all our current "op" classes got nerfed, people would just reroll mage and continue with life. ITs the scout and warriors and a few odd combos like r/p and r/d who are so far broken they serve no purpose.
End Quote



Darwec its Flecia here and your comments concerning r.p are way off base. I think I know what your trying to say ... and half of its true. R/p is broken and I will never be able to do the best dps I want to do till R/p gets fixed. BUT EVEN BROKEN, I have alternate rotations that provide more then enough dps to compete with and out damage many r.m's (certainly not the best of the best YET!), to go so far as to say the r/p "serves no purpose" is a narrow minded view point from someone that has never played the class. In addition to providing dps however a r.p offers party buffs that help the party survive by dodging and providing 5% less damage taken, as well as magic defense buffs (if your not running with a priest healer), and party crit buff (not my favorite elite << the source of my brokenness).

Rest assured I know by writing this thread I m going to get retard responses from the usual know it all types who have never played r.p. Rest assured I could care less about there opinions because I m busy playing the game doing many things they all say I cant do. So go ahead and say whatever stupid things need to be said (not referring to you Darwec).

Bottom line: Yes some classes are stupidly easier then others, but to dismiss other playable classes just cause you cant play it, or don't know how to play it, or because its a HARD class to master (there no good DYICE fix for r/p nor would I want there to be as I enjoy playing my class not having the computer do it for me, also some bosses are stupidly hard to "get behind" when there running/porting around) is closed minded. The sort of attitude id expect from the likes of Cike, and Borella.

My response to the general points of that thread however are simple, nerf the stupidly easy skills, and get rid of stupid buffs like k/w one. Then the games challenging for all and all classes will get there fair shake and most importantly players SKILL will win out over gear/overblown skills (That's not to say that there are not very skilled r.ms, w/m's etc, but those players wont suffer as much as the ones that NEED those overdone skills) And I know that those classes were "nerfed" once already but clearly it wasn't enough of a nerf to matter.

.... and so it has been said

"I'm sorry to say that simply wanting something to be competitive doesn't make it so." <- This is the only thing you said that I do have to respond to.

YOUR RIGHT!! Wanting doesn't make it competive..... player skill, gear and buffs DOES.

The point of my post was not to ask for r.p uber buffing/skills never was ....I don't need "enchanted throw" or whatever skill. I compete just fine thanks, certainly I will not be as consistent as some of the easier to play classes, but I don't mind that. I like that my class is challenging and requires skill to play and not "afk dps" style output. Once RoM fixes what is broken with the class the consistency will be much easier but not counting on that any time soon 3 years and counting.
( If you would like to understand how r.p is broken please check the skill bug thread )

Quote:
" But placed next to 4 rogues, a r/m, a r/wd, a r/s, and a r/wl... who know something about a rogue with equal gear, and I'm sorry to say, you WILL be on the bottom of that list".

Not saying that this is actually true, but for arguments sake lets go with your point of view and say it is. Does that make r.p "unviable" to be at the bottom of a nice high dps chart? Especially if I am also providing dodge/mdef/damage reduction/chance to stun ops/party crit buffs/60% pattack speed reduction on target boss and for some instance like beth or gch a fearless skill that has usefulness, not to mention nice dps with 5 seconds of immunity (holy aura) when it can be useful: in addition to flat out dps.

The point(s) of this thread!!! is not to pump my chest and say 'me r.p gonna out dps the whole server' but to bring the attention that just because I don't play r.m or some other "uber" class does not mean I cant compete dps wise and be a viable useful class combo. There is no doubt I have high standards and expectations for myself and my char and I am aiming high!! Bring on the best when I get my dagger upgraded and rom fixes my char, and let just see where I stand on your little precious scrut chart. But also know that r.p is a hard combo to play there no dyice one button dps all fix. Rotations are a MUST which include 2 behind the boss hits which are not always easy to do (never mind the fact that I haven't been able to use one of them for 3 years cause it will wipe my rogue energy out).

If you all want to play the easiest classes on rom and pump your chest to say how great you are that's cool the your prerogative, but DONT PUT DOWN other class combos that you clearly don't understand just because they are harder to play or not up to your standards of lame stupid uberness.

THE END.