Runes of Magic US / AU

I have to laugh at the utter stupidity on this thread.

Why?

Because the GM's told us that they would not wish a server merge on their characters given how they perceive the backend of the servers. I wouldn't wish a server merge on my characters considering the chaos with housekeepers, house chests, and now some HOUSES, YES, ENTIRE HOUSES, have rumored to disappear.

Now, all (some) people can do on this thread is gripe and complain that they "better not have to submit tickets to get missing stuff back".

I'd love to see the looks on the GM's faces when this is all said and done, while they stand back and say "I told you so". Then I'll laugh.

Thenewslash hit the nail right on the head. How is a server merge going to fix anything besides making the servers APPEAR populated? It's the same amount of people divided up into different chunks of groups. There's no new people, there's no advertisement for new people. The BEST thing this would do at this point is to make the Thalia people come back, cause they stand to benefit the most from this should Thalia get merged into a US server. Otherwise, I see us in the same boat after the servers are merged, people griping and complaining that the servers are empty, only because I predict it will screw up things so badly and people will lose a lot of stuff. I don't know about you guys, but I think I'll invite the GM's over for some bar-be-que, that way I can stand there and laugh with them.

*brofist the GM's*

I vote for one mass server named Agropig.

Genius lol.

Someone get working on the server logo. I want a mock up by 9am EST tomorrow.

Quoted from "Jguy"

How is a server merge going to fix anything besides making the servers APPEAR populated?

because it will at least help fix the population issue people have been complaining about for years...

just think, do you want 10 people each on 5 servers or 50 people on one server? which would be healthier for the game? sure, there are still 50 people, but the chance that those 50 people will get runs, find a guild, and generally want to stay around is much higher if they are all on the same server, than if they were split up into 5 groups.

no, it will not increase the total population, what it WILL do is make the current population more accessible to each other, providing a more enjoyable and productive MMO experience for all of them.


by your logic, lets all get 18 bazillion single-guild servers, how would you like that? only talking with your guildies, no reason to even use the auction house...wait...some of the servers are pretty much down to that.

Quoted from "acypcar90"

I vote for one mass server named Agropig.

Genius lol.

Someone get working on the server logo. I want a mock up by 9am EST tomorrow.

I'll actually do it if I get time.

Simple agreement with Cike's reply. It also has the chance to bring back some old players who left because of server populations. While it does not fix anything, if it goes off fairly well it could be a decent extension for the game. If it goes off poorly, then it could be a negative.

The company is taking a bet, and I agree with the bet they are taking. At the worst, if it's done so poorly that the game falters, then so be it. if it goes off fairly well, though, then the game gets an extended life which it would not have in the US without the merge.

The US servers are on the verge of being dead as it is, so this really can't go wrong. At worst, they screw it up and they officially die. At best, it goes well and we squeeze a bit more time out.

Quoted from "gigilomann"

And as much as we hate the game, we all want to play it longer lol <.< When this game dies, I don't know what games I'd move onto, I'll miss this game, not going to lie, So I'm for the merge, even if it takes quite a long time.

Agreed, no game can replace RoM. <3

Quoted from "gigilomann"

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Quoted from "gigilomann"

And as much as we hate the game, we all want to play it longer lol <.< When this game dies, I don't know what games I'd move onto, I'll miss this game, not going to lie, So I'm for the merge, even if it takes quite a long time.

Agreed, no game can replace RoM. <3

Not going to lie, I've even played WoW... And I find this game more challenging, more to it, and more fun..

Um...no offense but you must not have played WoW very long if you believe that. Let's not paint a picture prettier than it is here, RoM is a fun game but the only thing challenging about it is finding a way to gear up your character with out going into debt in RL and there is significantly less to it not more. As to being more fun - why not. Everyone has a different experience and enjoys things as they come.

Again, I'm not knocking RoM here, but let's not go overboard with the fanaticism.

Quoted from "gigilomann"

Quoted from "Thenewslash"

Quoted from "gigilomann"

And as much as we hate the game, we all want to play it longer lol <.< When this game dies, I don't know what games I'd move onto, I'll miss this game, not going to lie, So I'm for the merge, even if it takes quite a long time.

Agreed, no game can replace RoM. <3

Not going to lie, I've even played WoW... And I find this game more challenging, more to it, and more fun..

I'll give you challenging and fun because those are opinions and are different for every person.
More to it? That's just silly talk.

I laugh at all the people who think nothing will go wrong with it. When has GF/RW or froggy ever tried doing something major and didn't screw it up? How long did it take them to fix broken houses/housemaids, some STILL aren't fixed years afterwards. Doing this merge will officially be the end of rom. Too many people will lose items or gear, too many will get the standard "everything is fine on our end so it must not really be missing" reply from support. Just face it, this is how they plan to kill rom. If I were you all, I'd start looking for that next game now.

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Quoted from "gigilomann"

And as much as we hate the game, we all want to play it longer lol <.< When this game dies, I don't know what games I'd move onto, I'll miss this game, not going to lie, So I'm for the merge, even if it takes quite a long time.

Agreed, no game can replace RoM. <3

Despite all the brokeness, I have to agree...

Still, the best way to fix low population is to get population... Merging servers is just to create an illusion that all is well.

@Ziav: While I'm not completely supportive of server merges (aside from the remote possibility of it to fix siege) I'm not sure if they really need to use an elaborate, costly plan to make everyone quit from hatred just to shut down US servers. If they just shutted it down tomorrow, who would stop them?

Quoted from "Jguy"

I have to laugh at the utter stupidity on this thread.

Why?

Because the GM's told us that they would not wish a server merge on their characters given how they perceive the backend of the servers.

Back when we said that, yes, we wouldn't want a server merge. I still don't want one right now. But it isn't happening right now.

I've known of the possibility of a server merge for some time now and yesterdays news does appear to conflict with what we've said before.
However, realise something:
Since any server merges are not actually going to happen for some time, Gameforge have obviously now pushed Runewaker to developing a proper server/character transfer tool to handle their RoM databases.

Whenever the server merge finally does come, I'm sure I won't have anywhere near the amount of reservations I currently have, if any.

all for agropig.

don't you see new players coming back saying there aren't people around? i mean, it would be nice to see people.

Quoted from "Yrcanos"

Quoted from "Jguy"

I have to laugh at the utter stupidity on this thread.

Why?

Because the GM's told us that they would not wish a server merge on their characters given how they perceive the backend of the servers.

Back when we said that, yes, we wouldn't want a server merge. I still don't want one right now. But it isn't happening right now.

I've known of the possibility of a server merge for some time now and yesterdays news does appear to conflict with what we've said before.
However, realise something:
Since any server merges are not actually going to happen for some time, Gameforge have obviously now pushed Runewaker to developing a proper server/character transfer tool to handle their RoM databases.

Whenever the server merge finally does come, I'm sure I won't have anywhere near the amount of reservations I currently have, if any.

You just touched on something important: " Gameforge have obviously now pushed Runewaker to developing a proper server/character transfer tool to handle their RoM databases."

HOW they implement the transfer is going to be key. Will they just copy player database records into the target server? Will ALL characters be stored on the same database with the server listed as just an entry? Will there be completely NEW servers? I think that is important to the survival of the PvP servers.

Merging Grimdal and Indigo is a no brainer. However, it might be nice to give other servers the option to come to a PvP server (PvP is fun, you really can't lose equipment any more, PK trades save DIAMONDS) and if you implemented via a single character database, that would be a simple option.

Also, how are Guilds going to be managed and transferred? I would recommend that you put a freeze on new guilds to prevent conflicting names in the short term until you figure that out.

With a change of this importance that has less to do with gameplay and more to do with resource management, I would HIGHLY recommend that you include us in the process MORE than in the past. Ideally, you would come up with options and propose it to small group of experienced players and get feedback. If not that, at least give us insight into the peer review decisions that are being made. Monthly status updates would be nice. Warnings of when transfers are going to take place so that we can get screenshots of our equipment/skills. If there are new servers, give us a time frame where we have both our old chars and our "new" chars on the new server so that we can look at BOTH chars skills and equipment side by side.

While this is a fantastic development, please don't ignore our insight and expertise (quite a few of us a software developers/systems engineers). If done correctly, this could breath new life into the game. If done poorly, it will be the death knell. I think that it is why you are seeing such skeptical responses in this thread instead of players jumping for joy.

Quoted from "CharlieBananas"

7 servers merged into 1 big server!

Artemis
Govinda
Reni
Osha
Palenque
Indigo
Grimdal


AGROPIG

I support that. Release the AGROPIG!

I just want to point out that if grimdal and indigo do get merged, at least merge it with thalia so we can call it the grimdingo server >_>

o____o agropig lol it even makes sense lol

And for once cike has a point its less fun to play on a small quiet server or quiet guild and plus people from different servers can't run things together so if one server has to little people for things it can't do anything its more fun to play with more people. With a higher population more people can work together and with more people more goods on the AH for people.

I think an actual server merge would be a bad idea Buuuuuuuuuut....


Solution: Keep the servers still seperate but make something that can link them all and make a shared AH for all the servers and if there was a toon with the same name and one went to another server say there was an Zidlef on Aritimus and zid switched channels to aritmus the artimus zid would just say zidlef but the reni zid would have like (reni) or such above his name once he went there

Something like a portal or channel switch option so if a person who made a toon on one server could basically walk to the other server if so if there wasn't people to run things on one server they could walk to another and vise versa.

It would solve the issue of to many people in one place the population would be more connected you could make friends on another server or join a guild on another server and if you were originally from another server and someone on that server you went to made the same name they would just look normal while as you would still have the server you made your toon on the name would be above your head.
That way people could still be separate if they wanted but work together if needed as well


I'd like it if The team could pass that idea along to runewaker and GF cuz i think there's less room for error and more benefits as well

One single item shop and the ability to move to another server without copying and pasting the toon elsewhere and your house and such for that toon would be assessable from all servers and things like that and it kinda seems cooler too like your visiting a foreign land.

Also if someone from a pvp server wanted to go to the pve server they could and the oposite true as well

Also since i hear rom's problems in a coding issue and items and such have numbers added to them talking to one of my guildies and since they have item codes and such and if one toon moved to another server and the same item had the item number the prossess of moving the toon could basically change some of the numbers so that it is the only one in existence or something so gear isnt lost

Basically all the data on the current servers they could copy and paste to another more powerful server which could fix the lag and leave us alone so we could still play. After copying and pasting & get the formula down so that the proccess is smooth and works & since time would have changed things once they have what needs to be down down they could copy what is down that changed and move to another device that holds the server with more power to have less lag and such. It's a good idea as long as it's done right this game has the potential to be the best MMO on the internet and make a LOT of money if the problems are fixed.

It's not for lack of trying that i haven't moved to another game i like cuz i simply can not find one that compares to rom.
If i like the battle system i hate the customization and if i like the customization i hate the movement system ect. Rom Can make GF a lot of money if they fix the problems they would make more money than they think they could. The people that make the decisions don't play the game so they do not realize this.