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Monday, September 29th 2014, 9:24pm

As stated, problem with PvP channel is that when you take transport portals, sometimes you wind up on a different channel.

Also when you login, if its a PvP channel you select to log into, you should get a 2nd confirmation window just incase.

Also if you change channels, you would have to gain at least a minute invulnerability / non attacking state (so if you accidentally wind up you can't be killed or kill, that's not fair.)


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Monday, September 29th 2014, 10:29pm

I'm not gonna lie it would be nice to have a much larger endgame community. Reni's endgame is pathetic at this point. There is basically 1 guild that can run pillars and that guild isn't even active enough to run it much lately. Them Grotto runs ftw.

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Monday, September 29th 2014, 10:37pm

I see, apologies.

A friend of mine who plays on the PvP servers asked his guild what they thought about just being on a PvE server, and he said 19/20 would love to be PvE. So...
Oh, no need for apologies, I should have explained my reasoning in my first post.

When the game was more populated I'd choose a less populated one to log onto, but for the last couple years I don't even pay attention unless a quest isn't working as it should, or I can't find an NPC. So I would be the one doing dailies and wondering why I died.

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Monday, September 29th 2014, 11:57pm

Alrighty, Let us take this one step at a time.

TL;DR

Spoiler Spoiler

Check Signature


Now for those who like a long read. There are a few things we need to discuss and think about. Well a lot of them.



1. What? I think the community has done this well so far. But let ALL of us together be clear and decisive about what we want from this merge. No beating around the bush, they asked what we wanted, lets make sure they are 100% certain, everyone involved knows what the community as a whole wants.

2. How? Depending on what kind of server merge we are looking for requires not only software changes, but perhaps hardware changes as well. As of this post it appears there is a vehement out crying and outpouring of effort for AGROPIG.

Spoiler Spoiler

YES stupid MS Spell check... Add that to the dictionary...
We need to think about the amount of work involved on their end. It's not M/WD flamespam easy for them.

3. Consideration. There are many aspects to consider lets run through them.

3.1 Problems with the server merge itself.

"Your shiz will be lost in the void 'ARGUMENT'." Yeah well stuff happens. To that crazy person who had 14GB's of screens. AWESOME! You guaranteed none of your stuff will get lost. It's going to happen regardless of how well they test the merge system. Be prepared. EXP,TP gear, stats, housekeepers, guild stuff, titles, quest log, currency Tab, crafting skills, backpack, bank... EVERYTHING you can think of screen cap it all, before this merge happens.

"Duplicate Character names 'Issue'. " I'd suggest a rename system. Seems the most straightforward. If two people have the same name already, allow one of them the name first. Don't open it up to anyone before they both get to pick whether they wish to keep or rename.

"More then 8 Characters." all of the 9 and above characters need to go. IMPORTANT: allow for people to at least SEE the character's visual representation. I own a monopoly on my characters names.. This means on every server I have 8 characters all named the same. Because I'm not a fan of impersonation. Attempting to merge 64+ characters with 8 named DerpedMyPants, I wan the one that's level 87. Not the level 1's.

"PvP, verses PvE". I think we have kind of solved this one already. PvP people sound like they are willing to make compromises, which I give a standing ovation for them. Considering this means they need to use ABL's now.

"Channel forcing." After a certain population has been reached a certain channel in a certain zone. Lock it out. Failure to do so, may or eventually WILL result in channel crashing, simply because 127,000 people tried to be in channel 1 Varanas for a GM event.

3.2 Concerns the community has, but not directly related to a 'working' merge.

"Questing issues." Ever have that really annoying quest that the item takes forever to spawn. Yeah multiply that by about 10. Assuming there is another person or 2 doing the same quest you are.

"Stop the abuse." Let Thalia have it's wish. It's all they have ever dreamed of... Merge them in with us. We want it for them, they want it badly.

"Channel Number." A VERY VERY important issue for the community. 4 channels will be simply unacceptable. If we actually get AGROPIG like we have been asking... I honestly can't see anything LESS then 20 channels being acceptable for worldbosses. According to my math, we have on average 3 * 8 = 21. And I know for sure Artemis and Govinda have 4 channels.

"Auction House" Going to need a merged Auction House for sure. However... We are also going to need the option to sort more then 500 Items at a time. All the Int/MA's wont show up. They just wont.

"User responsibility." Differing thoughts on this subject topic. The easiest is to make an announcement a week before the merge and have everyone remove everything from the Auction House and mail, as well as other assorted server based storages. (Not bank, house or backpack stuff though.)

4. Issues that will arise post-merge.

"The DBag count." It's going to go up. No matter which server you are on. It's going to go up. Your going to see them in world chat. Your going to see them hanging around Varanas... It's going to happen.

"WorldBoss Drama" It happens now, with even the minimal of 2 guilds capable of doing it. Yeah like 20+ guilds all competeing for Proofs... No issue at all here.

"Recruiting." Guilds are going to be condensing, and merging. No one will escape this. Brace for impact and before the merge make sure everyone that can invite in your guild is clear of who you want in, and who you don't.



This is all I can think of. Let us address what we expect in these areas. Let us remain calm and remember this merge will not take place in the near future. But let us plan for it. Everyone needs to be prepared and be ready and willing to make compromises of some type. Edits MAY take place In the future as more issues come to my attention or as I think of them.

Also Check the Signature. Support Merging of Thalia Please. (Order is Irrelevant, could Easily be AGROPIGT)

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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 12:24am

While I agree with a lot of a what ftwo wrote, I don't on the 20 channels for proofs. Put all 7 or 8 servers together, and you might get about the population of 1 server when proofs first came out. Maybe I'm overestimating the loss of player base. I don't know. I realize that the number of guilds that farm them probably hasn't dropped too much, but personally, I could care less if they fight for them and don't choose to find an easier agreed upon solution. Just a personal viewpoint. :)

My basic disagreement is that I think player loss has been greater than ftwo thinks. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe a fairly well done server merge will bring some back.

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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 12:32am

R eni
A rtims
T hailia
O sha
P alenque
I ndigo
G rimdal

If you add thaila into that

Or maybe

just keep the name reni sounds better than the rest other than maybe Grimdal or osha

Reni just sounds cooler than the rest rolls off the tongue better


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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 12:40am

No. It is AGROPIG - One for all. All for one. Thalia can come, too.
We've discussed this on IRC.

AGROPIG IS STRONG. AGROPIG IS LIFE. AGROPIG IS LOVE.

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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 1:16am

Guys...we need to put a pause on spinning our wheels.

Saito - Are we going to get a say or not? Otherwise we are all just wasting our time here.
I don't support 1 Server. I just like the Anagram - GOAT GRIP!

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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 1:22am

RATOPIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It can't be agropig if thaila is added


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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 1:31am

You left out Govinda or Grimdal.

It's AGROPIG or nothing.

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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 1:44am

tagropig
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 2:26am

Tagropig

Tag, you're it Runewaker. Now when you come back to tagging us, bring us the merge.

Also, is this runewaker's work or is this gameforge's own hand doing the merge?


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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 6:15am

Honestly don't add Thalia to your naming system. Even if they do add Thalia it'll only add about 4-5 people to the overall US population anyway. I know most, if not all, of those that have left AU won't come back even then, too little, (far) too late as far as they are concerned.
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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 6:26am

AggroPit?

At least "aggro" is spelled correctly in my version. ;)

135

Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 6:46am

Tried making a cool signature logo but failed had to shrink the one i made so much lame 75kb should be higher :p Merge logo all day :P

136

Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 6:50am

I know my references are a bit old but one of the things I like about Ultima Online is u had a pvp world and pve worlds on each server. Personally I hate arenas so siege war is the only time I get to go pvp really on a pve server but also I don't like working a low level class that ive set out to accomplish a goal and get ganked by an endgamer (it is why I refuse to just play on a pvp server) and my point is would it be so hard to create a copy of the same world and be able to chose where u wanted to go at that moment. Ultima Online made it so materials gave more from its source in the pvp land which kept people returning to it in this game u could easily make the xp / tp a greater amout to keep it active. If we are merging servers why couldn't this be done to keep both the pvp and pve players happy and still make equally merged servers. rift had it so that when a server was to be deleted the person had so long to move a character to another server of their choice which would be open and if the name was already taken they changed their name at that time to 1 that was not already used. Also technically anything is possible and it really comes down to what is willing to be done but if merging anyway seems it would make a lot of since to create a few stable servers and allow people to merge into those from the ones we have now and could be kept equal by allowing certain amounts into each one as well as allowing the removal of permanently banned accts taking up storage. For the short term bans just give 6 months or something of that nature to get all toons relocated before doing what ever u do with the old servers. I understand things aren't as simple as they sound however everything I have mentioned I have seen from other games which tells me it is possible to do.

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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 7:28am

AggroPit?

At least "aggro" is spelled correctly in my version. ;)



I'm going to go with this.


























No matter what we call ourselves, we are of one movement. One stride towards unification. We are strong. This train has no brakes. CHOO. CHOO.

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "CharlieBananas" (Sep 30th 2014, 7:56am)


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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 11:51am

I say Groatpig, this game, after all, is cash shop heavy...

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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 2:25pm

Ropigag

Reni
Osha
Palenque
Indigo
Grimdal
Artimus
Govinda

Simmilar to Rope gag XD


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Tuesday, September 30th 2014, 8:06pm

No T on this one Aspho??? WTH?? what about Thalia???

AGGROPIT!!!!!!

Best one yet!!!

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