Runes of Magic US / AU

yeah, great work Indigo! The only US server to get the 4th tier :D

& Reni.. we suck again! :(

Well since doing 10K or 6K dailies a day didn't modify the % for Reni, i stopped doing dailies after the 3rd day and the percentage per day remained the same, it is sad to see that if you do or don't do stuff it doesn't change a thing.

Indigo Rekt All the US servers.

And I Was Here Thinking the Server Was Dead. =P

Gratz to Indigo btw, well done people

That's why it got so high ;p Alts made more of an impact lol

Yes, good job indigo. Funny how during a special event for dailies, many servers didn't even reach 100% of their average.

well doing dailies on toons from the same account didn't account for all the p-tokens gained on them, only 1 toon per account apparently. I wasted about 200+ daily reset tickets on alts for nothing sadly in 2 days. The % didn't improve at all for those 2 days on Reni and we had a steady 4 last days and i didn't do a daily on any toons. But it's fine no one will care to check or disclosed a mistake has been made. Glad for those who were able to get what they got ;-)

Zeri so alts didn't have an impact, especially when i ran 80 of them on both days and nothing changed.

No, they had an impact. We just can't tell for sure how much of an impact since we can't see what the actual weekly amount is and we aren't gonna be told. Alts have more of an impact on smaller servers simply because there would be a smaller weekly amount.

While I don't see the post now, I'm actually in agreement with the poster who said that it was interesting that so many servers ended up below what their average was calculated to be. I also find it interesting that with percentages taken out to the second decimal, 1 server managed to hit 120.00 percent exactly. Definitely possible, but somewhat improbable, though maybe I'm lacking information and updates were being given out on the servers about where they stood.

Worked on quite a lot of alts that time and I also saw lots of other people too.
no single person was going to win that, 1 person is not a server <.< maybe populations aren't as bad as some of you were thinking expecting your own contributions to drastically change a week of results for thousands.

Quoted from "zidlef"

well doing dailies on toons from the same account didn't account for all the p-tokens gained on them, only 1 toon per account apparently.

Regarding this, is that something that has been stated elsewhere or is that something that you deduced based on the outcome of this event?

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I wasted about 200+ daily reset tickets on alts for nothing sadly in 2 days. The % didn't improve at all for those 2 days on Reni and we had a steady 4 last days and i didn't do a daily on any toons. But it's fine no one will care to check or disclosed a mistake has been made. Glad for those who were able to get what they got ;-)
Zeri so alts didn't have an impact, especially when i ran 80 of them on both days and nothing changed.

Quoted from "Bakken"

Worked on quite a lot of alts that time and I also saw lots of other people too.
no single person was going to win that, 1 person is not a server <.< maybe populations aren't as bad as some of you were thinking expecting your own contributions to drastically change a week of results for thousands.

Regarding alts and whether or not they had impact, I would think that most people who do have alts do dailies on those toons anyway. However, I could be wrong here. I personally only have two toons and would be lying if I said I do dailies on them every day. That being said, when whoever calculated the average amounts per server should have also used the amounts gained from any alts during the time frame used for this event . Therefore, even if they normally don't do dailies on those alts and they decided to do them during this event, and even with the population being what it is, they should have had some impact on the percentages gained.

Specifically for people who used daily resets, their contribution should have made some type of difference. Using simple math and only considering dailies, if one toon does dailies for a week, that's 700 phirius tokens. 20% more than that is 840 phirius tokens; which can be gained by using two daily reset tickets during the week. Did everybody use two daily resets, probably not. But like I mentioned before, does everyone do dailies every day, probably not either. That would bring that 840 phirius token amount down (there's too many guesses and assumptions to make with that so I'm not going to go there right now). I only have two toons and used 10 daily resets, that's 2400 Phirius Tokens or a little over 71% more than my average. That percentage would obviously diminish over the amount of toons on a server. Complete assumption here, but I would think because of this event going on, more people would try to use daily resets than not, but like I said, that's just an assumption.

My final thoughts. Yes, I would like to know how they got the server averages. Averaging in itself is simple enough but what data they used is important. It was maybe a month ago or so when daily reset tickets were on sale and while it wouldn't have been the smartest decision to use the data during that time, that is what very well could have happened. I used about 70 daily resets that week which would give me a 1000% more phirius tokens than normal. In my opinion, this would have definitely raised the "average amount" of phirius tokens per week.

{In General}
I usually ignore stats nowadays from just about anyone. How researchers/analysts come to conclusions can be very flawed or even biased in nature. Do the numbers reflect something? Sure. Does it reflect what they were trying to represent? Not necessarily.

Before any personal conclusions can be made on what was provided, it is better to know the intimate details as to how it was generated. Only then can better judgement calls be made as to how 'accurate' the values are and what the data really means.

Food for thought.

{For this particular event}
No, I'm not interested in the intimate details of this calculation. I already said in another thread of not being fascinated with this event..

Looking at the results of the event and considering only 3 servers got over 100% on the us side and only 1 over 120%, it seems like in general the number to reach was higher then it should have been for most. when 4/7 the us servers barely get over 80% it feels like the evaluation of the benchmark was wrong to begin with. Would be curious to know how the benchmark were set and what the actual numbers were.

edit: looking at the numbers again i see that only one server outside of US got under 90% was the evalutation different for eu servers?

also did some math EU average was 117,97% where as us average was at 99,23 but that's indigo moving the bar up mainly as without it average stands at 91,39%. Another way to put is is half the EU servers got full rewards where half the US ones didnt even get the 90% rewards

The reason Indigo got such a high percentage is because that server is so dead that any increase in ptokens from any alts or toons that normally don't do dailies is a much higher percentage increase in ptokens than on a server like Artemis.

Also meh. Event was meh, the rewards were lackluster in general.

Here I was hoping some people on Reni would be willing to step up to endgame sometime soon.

Can't even handle dailies so I might as well retire now.

really goes to show ya how lazy we americans are eh? rofl...

hey i did my dailies everyday on my two toons haha.. or did i... hmm

after first day of seeing stats i was like well this is over LMAO.

Quoted from "pachat93"

Looking at the results of the event and considering only 3 servers got over 100% on the us side and only 1 over 120%, it seems like in general the number to reach was higher then it should have been for most. when 4/7 the us servers barely get over 80% it feels like the evaluation of the benchmark was wrong to begin with. Would be curious to know how the benchmark were set and what the actual numbers were.

edit: looking at the numbers again i see that only one server outside of US got under 90% was the evalutation different for eu servers?

also did some math EU average was 117,97% where as us average was at 99,23 but that's indigo moving the bar up mainly as without it average stands at 91,39%. Another way to put is is half the EU servers got full rewards where half the US ones didnt even get the 90% rewards

The estimated daily average was not the actual daily average. There are six out of 29 servers that got below 100% by greater than a 3% margin for error. Those servers range from 5.79% to 19.64% below. To claim that the estimated daily average was correct is also to claim that the 19.64% margin of error is correct, which means that all those servers that are not above 119.64% only did their daily average. Since there are only 10 servers that exceeded 119.64%, out of 29 servers indicates this game in not doing well.

In addition, to support that 19.64% is within margin of error means that servers getting 100.36% to 139.64% actually reached the threshold 4 of 120%

For the tl:dr- Servers should have gotten near 100% of their estimated daily average, and 6 out of 29 failing to is too great a margin.

Well this is ROM, everything is RANDOM!!! stat pulls, gear pulls, plussing jewels, wheel of fortune and now even events have randomness!! WOOT WOOT!!!!

Camagic loved your explanations, well done and i totally agree but we must be the only two people who see this,ah well.

the event is nice , can't wait till next week .. 1k+ universal potions here we come :'D

edit: we might have a low pop on indigo , atleast everyone does their dailies =)