Runes of Magic US / AU

I personally am a pretty lazy guy. Being said lazy guy I prefer to make life simple and don't bother over complicating it. If I was to go out and buy nvidias latest flag ship graphics card, gtx 1080 and then sli'ed 2 of them in my pc, then I would be out £1500 or so easily but I would also be pretty pissed if some random person gets better stress test scores on their pc using cheaper parts. Ergo for mages to be considered "balanced" their performance needs to be in direct correlation to the time, effort and money that was put into them. They shouldn't do "acceptable", "Well", they shouldn't out dps the melee in the raid once or twice, THEY SHOULD BE OUT DPSING EVERY SINGLE OTHER COMBO EVERY SINGLE TIME IN A BURN, period. Because they sure as hell aren't good for anything else outside of that 10 sec burn.

Mage imbalance in this game is by far the worse class imbalance in the entire game. All the other combo's in the game is either clearly good or clearly bad. But mages have been kept on the bloody fence for far too long. RW either needs to buff it or nerf it and get it over with, but enough of this fence sitting BS.

Quoted from "Cenre"

Holy cow, what a q_q thread seriously. Firstly, to "exploit" ad you talk about literally one class, w/s which is beyond normal, its one str class of which there is many, so don't put then all into the same boat when they're completely different.


As for mage dps, there was a video already linked of mage doing viably, and in my guild we have warmages doing well too, imo the main issue is that on us side you're just used to buffing the crap out of w/s s/r etc etc that there is no chance any of them could keep up. Not to mention in a lot of runs I see you don't even max soul brand on boss.

LEL, guess someone is forgetting about skills like snipe and wound attack.

That video doesn't mean anything. As noble already said he had sigil for B2 and B3, and on first boss, the fact that apparently "end game" r/m got out dps'ed by a m/w during a sustained boss fight isn't a credit to how "good" m/w is, its proof of how aweful the r/m in that raid are.

Also lmfao, the mage doing viably. Because that's what people aim for don't they when they play the most expensive and hardest to gear combo in the game, they plan to do "viably" and "well".

<going to be removing this bit as it may entice a fight, and we have a good thread going here>

Quoted from "Cenre"

He did "acceptable" dps doing more than twice the work. There's a reason he quit playing mage.

^THIS

Quoted from "ruisen2000"

Quoted from "pachat93"

Bo the point was that if RW kept mage the same but made them only need 1 set of gear and not have to bring 2 alts outside the instance they would be totally fine and If a melee put the same work as a mage they wouldn't do much better WK simply because getting 1 tier higher requires 3x the ressources and doesn't bring a hole that much

The second set of gear really isn't the biggest issue, imo, since most of us have that done already and str/stam isn't exactly the hardest stat to get. Its also not as important to have that set be up to date.

At this point, its probably impossible to stat even with PoM event. Zen's pull rate for controls was close to 1 in 6 after a very large number of pulls, which is expected given the number of stats in the stat pool, and with 3 shells and a bag, you still need 2 controls per piece x 15? pieces = 30 controls = 180 pulls = 1800 PoMs.... Restatting your entire set of gear might be not an immediate concern for everyone, but eventually each piece of gear will have to be restatted. Would be nice to see crafted int/matk again, or wisdom giving 1.9 matk so that we have the option to use 2 different stats like melee (I'm sure the healers would like this too), or make stat stats viable again and end this ridiculous 6x same stat meta.

IDK about everyone else, I don't mind having to make a second set of gear or the fact that mage stats are hard to come by or the fact that mages have to make their own alts, never been one to shy away from hard work. What I do take serious issue with is that fact all that effort and time doesn't give mages the performance it deserves.

The reason mages suck is because their dps skills are pitifully weak.

Quoted from "SHAYdynasty"

we all have great ideas for balancing mage but will runewaker actually change something when EU mages are doing great?

question for EU:
what do the melee people think? do the EU melee complain like how US mages complain? do they feel underpowered in your parties? like the rogues in that Raven Heart video noble linked a couple pages back...they did like half the damage of the mage. Like wth? on a long fight too.

EU mages don't do "great" lol. They all are as bad as the US mages. They just have access to a greater end game population hence they can afford to plan their raids more carefully by making it either a mage only raid or only bringing weak melee dps. I am sure the performance of those r/m's in that video will have made you raise an eye brow since you play r/m and have run raven heart hence have a good idea of what kind dps to expect from a r/m.

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GOOD BYE MAGE/WARRIOR.

YOU WERE THE LAST MAN STANDING, THE LAST OF THE MAGE DPS COMBO'S GETTING INVITES TO RUNS, THE LAST OF THE MAGE COMBO'S CARRYING THE LEGACY OF MAGES THROUGH THE END GAME INSTANCES. AND NOW AFTER ALL YOUR HARD WORK YOU HAVE BEEN LET GO.

YOU ARE VERY AWKWARD TO TAKE INTO RAVEN HEART RUNS,AND IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE INTO VALE OF RITES DESPITE BEING THE MOST EXPENSIVE COMBO IN THE GAME. LIKE A ROLLS ROYCE OR BENTLY THAT CAN'T BE DRIVEN ON THE ROAD. YOU CRAWLED ON FOR AS LONG AS YOU COULD BUT NOW IT'S TIME TO REST. YOUR CREATORS HAVE MANAGED TO KILL YOU OFF WITHOUT ACTUALLY NERFING YOU (an acheivment all by itself if i should say so). ALL TALKS AND DISCUSSIONS OF BALANCING YOU IS NOW MORE OR LESS OBSOLETE. IF THE NEXT INSTANCE IS ALSO STRAT HEAVY THEN YOUR DEATH WILL BE MADE PERMENANT.

HAVE A SAFE JOURNEY INTO THE REALM OF USELESS CLASSES, YOU WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN MY OLD FRIEND.



RIP MAGE/WARRIOR (BETHOMIA - MADRO TROLLS NEST)


ps- WTS my od t13 +20 lvl 95 staff, and my swap gear.

pps-Wonder how long it will be before w/m is killed off and we witness as the last minute trace of magic dissappear from this game and the game is renamed to just Runes of.

Quoted from "Magío"

Pretty sure Warrior/Scout died too. Js'ing. That's what happens. Adapt or die uninstall.


Magical Critical Hit Rate instead of "magical damage" on Intensification please.

warrior scout wasnt the last of the melee dps classes that still got inv's to runs...m/w was the last of the mage classes. And no w/m is not a mage...its a malee that happens to have better performance with mage gear, you can easily try to dps on it with melee gear, it just wont be as good.

Also w/s didn't have an entire set of gear that became useless like it did with m/w.