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Monday, July 11th 2016, 1:22am

need help with m/w setup

I have ready many posts about w/m but none about how to setup and play the m/w.
do you play it like a m of other combos? or do you play it hand to hand?
is there anything special about how to set it up?
if the mage is played like a normal mage then wouldn't it make sense to us a staff and throw spells?


I've read that most prefer to use the wand/talisman combo for the warrior side, how about the mage side? same or use a staff?

when on the warrior side, how about using a dagger instead of the wand? since the dagger will have a higher physical dps than a wand or does all of the warriors physical hits use magical stats and that's why you use the wand?

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Thursday, July 21st 2016, 4:43am

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Thursday, July 21st 2016, 5:08am

Here is the abc of m/w for pve: buff buff buff buff *fight starts* flame flame flame flame .... *bottom scrut* :cursing:

ok joke aside m/w is a range dps who shines in pve. you can play it in pvp but don't expect good results. you main damage skill is flame just as for every mage since magic damage depends on the cast time of the skil you are using and with cooldowns you can bring any spell to it's minimal cast time meaning flame the normally longest cast time skill is going to do the most damage. as for how to buff you want to use the longest duration buffs first and the shortest ones last so you can maximize the time where everything overlaps. if you have 2 buffs with the same duration use the stronger one later so it'll last longer. for gear same as any mage the usual mdam>crit>ma caracter plan is great for calculating stuff. also have a budget build for mage in here healyf2pguide it's close to the bottom it's a bit outdated(made in 95 cap) but should guide through the basics. Just need to add a str/stam swap set for wob and you good to go. Also good to have m/p and p/s alt so you can buff yourself for an extra 20% in run. how to play for trash mobs/pve use w/e cooldown you will be up by next boss and tstorm if it's a group of mob or electric explosion if it's single target. when you do not have cast speed increase pot running it's better to use short cast time skills as you get the damage out right away and aren't loosing dps.

For pvp plz don't play m/w in pvp it's not really good.
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Thursday, July 21st 2016, 8:20pm

Healy beat me... nice joke btw. You forgot the part of buffing outside tho... *quits mage*

Yeah play W/M in PvP :D
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Thursday, July 21st 2016, 8:46pm

Yep, what pachat93 wrote.

But I'm not sure if someone who is new to m/ would be able to digest it. So to break it into shorter points, the way I understand it (for PVE):
* as m/w you are a mage, any mage guide applies
* like any mage: your ONLY dmg skill in PVE Boss fight is Flame
* like any mage: you need standard mage pots/food (mdmg or matt, moti, ancient spirit water, crit elixir)
* like any mage: you can benefit from buffs from other players/alts
* like any mage: you need gear with mdmg/mcrit fully stated int/matt

The main difference from other mages:
* you get lvl 70 elite:
http://runesofmagic.gamepedia.com/Mage_E…age_.2F_Warrior
you need a completely new EXTRA set of gear (cloth, jewelry, weapon), chosen ONLY for max str/sta, and stated ONLY str/sta
* during (or just before) a boss fight you will need to activate a macro that will switch to this other gear, activate Brute Strength to get a buff and switch back to your int/matt gear

Other differences:
* a few extra other buffs - see the wiki page above
* ignore MP and mobile casting; only matt/mdmg buffs are worth it
* you have to line up standard mage buffs and these new buffs as pachat93 described
* activate Elemental Explosion beforehand (it's a 15 minutes buff!)
* but: to activate Berserk and Rage Mana casting Activate Mana and Enraged will not be enough: you will need a VN cape to get enough rage (but there are sure plenty laying around, just ask at your server) and another macro to switch capes, activate and switch back
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Thursday, July 21st 2016, 9:04pm

but: to activate Berserk and Rage Mana casting Activate Mana and Enraged will not be enough: you will need a VN cape

Actually on the second thought: would activating only what your rage skills allow and using Aoth Mysticism Cape not be better than using Aoth Valiance Cape?
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Thursday, July 21st 2016, 9:15pm

Here is the abc of m/w for pve: buff buff buff buff *fight starts* flame flame flame flame .... *bottom scrut* :cursing: *rerolls physical dps*
fixed ^^

Might actually be good at lv 100 though, when 100 ini staff is available. lv 100 KoD staff is a pretty big upgrade from any staff readily available in game right now, so might actually be able to keep up with equivalently geared melee. Unless lv 100 ini is impractical to farm like RH.
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Friday, July 22nd 2016, 3:24am

but: to activate Berserk and Rage Mana casting Activate Mana and Enraged will not be enough: you will need a VN cape

Actually on the second thought: would activating only what your rage skills allow and using Aoth Mysticism Cape not be better than using Aoth Valiance Cape?

why not rage pot in that situation and have it all? or does rage pot share CD with something better?
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Friday, July 22nd 2016, 4:10am

Here is the abc of m/w for pve: buff buff buff buff *fight starts* flame flame flame flame .... *bottom scrut* :cursing: *rerolls physical dps*
fixed ^^

Might actually be good at lv 100 though, when 100 ini staff is available. lv 100 KoD staff is a pretty big upgrade from any staff readily available in game right now, so might actually be able to keep up with equivalently geared melee. Unless lv 100 ini is impractical to farm like RH.
we do find RH pretty farmable when we have ppl got up to 6 runs done in 1 night problem is having the ppl and the drops are not very good mostly od daggers and mage pieces been dropping magi already has full set little lucker. as to where mage stands it's quite a lot of effort for minimal results imo you can do well if you try very hard and work very hard but you can do the same as physical dps with much less effort.
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Friday, July 22nd 2016, 4:39am

Wtf do people need rage pots lol... the 100 rage from Activate Mana should be enough
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Friday, July 22nd 2016, 5:00am

Wtf do people need rage pots lol... the 100 rage from Activate Mana should be enough

i don't have a m/w, was just responding to something upthread, but if m/w already has a skill that gives adequate rage, i don't know why you'd need pots either.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

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Friday, July 22nd 2016, 7:43pm

Ups. I only looked at the unleveled skills on the wiki page, I didn't check what Activate Mana gives at lvl 50 :o

http://www.rom-welten.de/database/view.php?id=492630

Indeed rage is not an issue. Sorry for the misinfo.
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