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Saturday, August 27th 2016, 10:32pm

hi forum moderators..

i been comin to this forum for years now... and im not sure what got into yall recently... but if you guys close down every damn decent conversating thread around.. you are NEVER EVER.. going to get people to come back or to keep making posts, or to even bother with coming to forums...

the forums have been dead for months upon months... hell some of the common people that comment here arent even from us servors... no offense to any love u all...

but this is getting out of hand... and bla bla i know youll just delete or end my thread ofc like every other one.. but there has GOT to be a better way...

im not even a mage but that thread has literally been the only thing people have been consistently replying to in weeks... there hasnt been much else...

that mage discussion thread has been around longer than half of the forum moderators have had jobs within Gameforge...and it has also been the most entertaining...and at times very imformative...nobody can deny that...
It has people checking forums consistently looking for either feedback... or information.. or replies to their comments or others comments...
you are NEVER going to to escape trolls... or idiots... NEVER... and i agree shutting down some threads is justifiable.. or even temporarily shutting down to control peoples tempers...
but please stop shutting down like every decent thread that gets started please :)

And thank you for your time.
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Saturday, August 27th 2016, 10:46pm

they could have just removed the EU person arguing with the US person and give them both forum vacation time and be done with it, it was a good thread that had some ideas and good content.

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Saturday, August 27th 2016, 10:54pm

Honestly they are abusing their power that thread in no way deserved to be closed they just felt like it.
They even closed my thread saying to give it another shot and turned its name into QQ thread when it was open mage thread again lmao.
They honestly dont care at this point they just trying to milk people out of all their money till they cant no more they never take our good ideas and when they do they twist it.
The best thing theyve done in eons is bring scout back thats it i honestly dont know why i bother sometimes smh while they close this thread in probably the next 10 mins

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Saturday, August 27th 2016, 10:59pm

don't want threads locked? don't break forum rules.
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

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Saturday, August 27th 2016, 11:43pm

Than comes people like him what forums rules were broken please tell me please ?

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Saturday, August 27th 2016, 11:50pm

It has always been this way, it's just more obvious recently because there's so few threads. Threads get closed for even a hint of confrontation.
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Saturday, August 27th 2016, 11:53pm

forum rules can be found here Forum Rules

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Sunday, August 28th 2016, 12:09am

Yeah, darn those moderators doing their job. What a bunch of jerks.

Moderation is not what drives players away from the forums (or the game generally). Toxicity, cynicism, trolling, inability to have a reasonable and reasoned discussion without it devolving into a flurry of ad hominem attacks... THOSE things are what drive people away. Most players don't care to venture into the forums, which are often referred to as a cesspit, since they have no doubt that reading or posting here will be headache-inducing. Frankly, the forums never fail to deliver on that point. You may thank your fellow forum-regulars for promoting such a caustic environment.

The result is that suggestion threads like 'give players what they -really- want!!' become very myopic, and instead read like 'give ME what -I- really want'. While we do forward them, with so few participants it really can't represent the population well. Looking at you here, Zid. Stop yelling that nothing gets fixed. It's just flat not even true.

When you look at a closed thread and think "hey!! I don't see any objectionable posts there at all!" maybe there's a reason. Darn those forums mods cleaning things up like they're supposed to. Consider that you might not be seeing the whole sorry mess.

The mage thread we let go for a long time since, as players have pointed out, it was a rare thread of -actual- discussion with some good ideas thrown in. As Aqua said: "what a shame". At some point we have to act, and that time arrived. Don't like your threads being closed or your posts removed? Follow the dang rules. It's not hard. People do it all the time. Looking at you here, Wurdking/Cenre. Shape up, or ship out.

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Sunday, August 28th 2016, 12:26am

Word people have different ideals so we wont always agree doesnt mean close thread

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Sunday, August 28th 2016, 12:41am

#SaveTheMages
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Sunday, August 28th 2016, 1:41am

no offense mohammed lol id close all your threads down too lolol
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Sunday, August 28th 2016, 1:47am

Dont say no offense if your being offensive, also that wasnt my thread & why would you close it even if it was because you a hater ?

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Sunday, August 28th 2016, 1:59am

This is why we can't have nice things.

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Sunday, August 28th 2016, 2:02am

it was a good thread that had some ideas and good content.

it was multiple pages of the same Q_Q, there was maybe 10 decent posts in that entire thread.

Honestly they are abusing their power that thread in no way deserved to be closed they just felt like it.
They even closed my thread saying to give it another shot and turned its name into QQ thread when it was open mage thread again lmao.
They honestly dont care at this point they just trying to milk people out of all their money till they cant no more they never take our good ideas and when they do they twist it.
The best thing theyve done in eons is bring scout back thats it i honestly dont know why i bother sometimes smh while they close this thread in probably the next 10 mins

rules were broken, it had every right to be locked, simple.
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Sunday, August 28th 2016, 2:08am

what rules were broken @ Cen & @kali people arent perfect people dont always agree and their will always be some kind of confrontation doesnt mean hey lets close this that doesnt solve the problem it just causes more problems.

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Sunday, August 28th 2016, 2:28am

I think it's entirely possible that the members of this community can have an active, passionate conversation about things that matter to them in the game without it degenerating into name calling and shenanigans. Sure, we have trolls. They are ever present. However, we can all do our part to subdue them instead of riling them up. There are ways to do it and ways to not do it... The choice is yours

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Sunday, August 28th 2016, 9:44am

I received a PM asking me to look into what happened as an 'outsider' in my capacity as the EN Game Admin instead of a US-SGM.

I see nothing that gives me any concerns over what happened. The thread degenerated into squabbling and name-calling and has been locked, as I have now done here. I agree with the thread closure.

Now, if Aqualink intends to have it cleaned up and re-opened, or remain closed, is his decision and not mine or anyone else. If you disagree with any forum moderation decision, you should be going outside for a walk to calm down, perhaps eating some sherbet or ice cream and collecting your thoughts so you can contact us calmly and rationally instead of being heated and temperamental. That forum PM you then send us should be concise and explain your thoughts clearly. We can then discuss and act.

Opening more threads to whine about the moderation is not allowed, and if actions such as this continue, we do have an infraction system where Rule Breakers have to experience the consequences of their actions.

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