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Friday, December 16th 2016, 4:35pm

Winter Event Instance Gift Drops

If you’re not afraid of diving into the thick of battle, don’t let this opportunity slip away. Defeat the bosses in the three instances listed below and grab the gifts they’re carrying with them – only between December 19th 00:00 (server time) and January 1st 23:59 (server time)!

Some monsters in the following instances will reward their vanquishers with extra items – but only on normal and hard difficulties:
Bone Peak
Madro Troll Nest
Vale of Rites
Please note that each monster only carries one gift with them, irrespective of the number of party members involved in the fight.
Is there any more information of what these gifts are? or we will just have to wait and see?
maybe its something worth getting excited for? O.O
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Friday, December 16th 2016, 5:13pm

Probably proofs, would be my guess. Would've been nice event if they had simply doubled the drops off every boss in the instances(Wont be this though, since it would require a new patch/server restart) , but instead, now only 1 person per boss will profit from the proofs or whatever actually drops.
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Friday, December 16th 2016, 6:46pm

I hate to do this, I really hate to do this on an event that hasnt even started yet, but I feel if I don't say anything they (GF/runewaker whoever) will think this is 'ok', maybe there is time for them to see this and reevaluate this event...

I believe that an event should be to promote participation of players, All Players...

and maybe as has been stated in our 'world' this event was aimed for Only Highlv Players, thus the reasoning behind having it in the last three dungeon/highlv zones... to keep multiple/alts from 'exploiting' it...

but for what godly reason would you not only limit it to the highest dungeons BUT ALSO Difficulty?? We have a steady mid guild, I can bring 8 levelcap/endgame players, maybe 12 if i push

and I am not sure we can do these dungeons on the harder difficulty

so not only are you excluding lowlevels from this event, but for the most part an 'average' player will not feel encouraged to do this

I can see no reward even the well asked for 'PoM' that would be worth this type of exclusion

I do not feel this event with its current difficulty limitation promotes player participation.
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Friday, December 16th 2016, 7:10pm

If GF wants to rewared HM players, then fine.. make it so all HM instance bosses drop extra loot, but to make it so ONLY the highest level instance has this bonus is like rewarding only the top 10% of the servers.

I gotta chime in & say that this event really does not take players into consideration at all.

GF's group needs to do an event like this across the board for all players. Get players playing. :/

Think how wonderful it would be for lowbies to get gifts for running things they can run...

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Friday, December 16th 2016, 7:18pm

"normal and hard mode"
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Friday, December 16th 2016, 7:29pm

This post assumes it is proofs.

If you can't do normal modes of instances that are 3 caps old, what exactly do you need proofs for? Although idk why they didn't just do the level 55 instances like they have in the past. Or do something like RT.
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Friday, December 16th 2016, 7:42pm

Proofs help people to gear, ALL people, regardless of level, a level 70 for example can keep them till price goes up, and they can sell them to the people who do "need" them, and can use the gold to gear, and the chances are the people buying them are using for stats(usually endgamers). Assuming it is proofs, all that happens is the rich get richer, and the gap between endgamers and midgamers gets even bigger. Not to mention that undergeared players having gold from proofs, allows them to buy hardmode items being sold easier.
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Friday, December 16th 2016, 8:57pm

Yes, poorly conceived at best. Unless the "extra gifts" are more fireworks packages they can trade in with Nina...
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Saturday, December 17th 2016, 5:28am

Well if it is proof it is so nice that the 1% were the only ones thought about with this because the 99% of the rest of the people never count. Great job at running more people away to other games. Couldn't do hardmode from level 55 and up, could you? just so sad

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Saturday, December 17th 2016, 5:38am

NORMAL MODE? ANYONE?
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Saturday, December 17th 2016, 6:06am

Can someone tell me where it says proofs? Has anyone run either normal or hard mode of the instances to verify?

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Saturday, December 17th 2016, 8:21am

Issue Magio is that normal mode bosses still have over 100kk hp, and for a midgamer guild it's still no realistic. Maybe bone peak first but that's it
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Saturday, December 17th 2016, 3:02pm

@Maggio.. the point is this:

Bone Peak
Madro Troll Nest
Vale of Rites

How many lowbies can run those? & I don't mean being pulled...

The point of games is to foster the feeling that you're doing something fun ( and possibly great ). GF is pretty much saying that new players don't matter to them.. It was poorly conceived and in no way a part of the Christmas spirit.

They should have made it level specific.. possibly have npc's in Varanas, Dalanis ( *shiver* ) & all the major cities have buff npc's that give out instance buffs to the party. If the party composition changes, the buff disappears. ONLY buffed parties get the extra loot drop. ( DC's don't count as composition changes as long as the dc'd toon is not kicked from the party ).

ie, all toons in the party lvl 1-10 can get party buffs for lvl 1-10 instances; 10-20 instances for lvls 10-20; 30-40.. etc.

You add or remove people & you lose the party buff.

& yes, people will say that all you need to do is twink out a toon to take advantage of this system... whatever. At least the spirit of it is to support the entire player base. Abusers will abuse any system & no system is perfect enough to prevent it.

Heck, they could adjust bosses to add the average patk, pdef, hp, etc.. of the party during the fight.

I just want to see more people doing stuff in general.

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Saturday, December 17th 2016, 4:59pm

Can someone tell me where it says proofs? Has anyone run either normal or hard mode of the instances to verify?


Event isn't active until the 19th, so it can't be checked. Even your teamlers don't know for sure what it is, though we made the same guess listed above.

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Saturday, December 17th 2016, 7:05pm

Ycavan you are absolutely right on your post, sadly normal is not really normal. Also the feeling of fun has been lost for quite sometimes for a lot of players in game and why they left for somewhere else. The people in charge of these events never even played the game!!! they never went into an instance on normal mode or hardmode to see the differences. Never geared 1 toon on 2 classes statted and plussed and leveled the TP on skills, so how could they know what it means to the player base?

Seeing all the people world shout for diamonds in world makes me laugh a little more each day, guess karma has it's ways after all.

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Sunday, December 18th 2016, 2:21am

The point is true that even level 98 people probably can't do MTN normal. 130M HP and 600K+ defense is still pretty impossible for midgame guilds, most of which can't even clear things like Grotto which are about half the difficulty.

The problem becomes exploitability. Normal proof events the game dies for a week while everyone and their mother makes ten thousand low level alts and runs them through midnlessly for thousands of proofs.
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Sunday, December 18th 2016, 6:12am

Event is probably going to roll out and we'll all discover that its just junk like t4 runes.

But yeah, an event like this should definitely include Grotto/Pillars/CoE, the first 2 being the most commonly run midgame raid.
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Sunday, December 18th 2016, 10:39pm

I just solo farm vales for the blue drops, forget trying to get a group to run those instances.

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Monday, December 19th 2016, 1:28am

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Monday, December 19th 2016, 5:25am

I personally think that this event is rather poorly done... but to call it the final nail... that is a bit too far i think..

all in all people have been asking for events that were not clogged with peoples alts... here it is.. they tried to listen. we should thank them for the try and rationally explain the problems we have with it... game forge has been trying to listen to us and trying to make changes with a system that they told us they did not know/understand/or have the tools for... and frogster or rune wanker were the ones that with held the tools when they sold the game go GF. I give them props and hope that they listen to the feed back here to improve the next event... possibly give consolation prizes to make up for the mistake (though i won't hold my breath for that one). even the IS that every one hates was an attempt to make changes we asked for... the before mentioned tools that were broken or had no instructions or were not present... the new IS gives them the ability to do things like adding content to the IS (take house energy as an example) that they couldn't add before.

i think it's time we stop hating on GF. refocus that on RW for their unwillingness to fix code or supply tools required for running the server. Perhaps even try to acknowledge the things that GF has at least tried to do for us as players... if you need an example of this look at the post about last nights crash. no one is happy that it resulted in a roll back.. but look at how fast they got to it.. we never saw response times like that. they deserve props for that.. instead they see hate... same here. they tried to do what they thought the players were asking for. if they made a mistake (and i think they did) they need feed back that does not make them hate even looking at our posts... how sad...