Runes of Magic US / AU

Dear Heron, Polog, Aqua, other GM's/FM's and by extension Runewaker/Gameforge,

This has got to be the the worst idea for a PoM event. I mean literally, the event is pure garbage to 85%-90% of the community. As Cenre and others have pointed out, much of the playerbase CANNOT run the three instances included in this event on normal mode. This event is aimed purely at those who can already run the dungeons resulting in the rich getting richer & the lesser players being left out.

I can understand as to why such a heavy restriction was placed on the event. It was because last time, easy & repeatable level 50ish instances were made to drop PoMs and while some players farmed the hell out of them, they are not to blame. It was GF/RW's fault for setting up the event like that. So what did they do this year? They completely flipped the concept of the event from something everyone can do to something only 10%-15% of the community can do. This was not the right course of action. If you ask me, I would have done the event differently.

Rather than make the event near impossible or exploitable by most, why not choose an obvious middle ground? Pick a lower level instance that most people can get to & run with ease while simultaneously not being spammable.... I think everyone reading this just had three dungeons pop into their mind. HoS/ZS/DL. These instances would have been the perfect candidates to host this event. They accessible by most, able to be cleared by most, not repeatable, and most importantly not guarded by a paywall/gear wall.

Let's look at some statistics and see which would be more desired.

• HoS/ZS/DL Idea:
  1. People can solo these instances & can gain about ~16 poms per day per toon. Yes people have more than one toon, but it's not as farmable as before becasue the factor of multiplying your PoM earnings is determined by how many toons you have capable of solo'ing rather than pure instance repeat-ability.
  2. Solo'ing the Trio takes about 30min (basing that off of my average times). So 16 PoM's per half hour. (Once per day)
  3. Those that cannot solo can easily group up with other similar geared players OR easily tag along without drastically reducing group DPS as HoS/ZS/DL don't require overwhelming dps.
  

• The Current Event.
  1. In nearly all cases, these instances can't be solo'd and 5-6 boss being spread among 6 geared people results in about 1 pom per person per run. This can be farmed an unlimited number of times.
  2. I'm guesstimating that these instances take about ~30ish min to run on Normal mode (5min cd's) so the average individual gain would be 1 pom per half hour.
  3. This event shuts out everyone except those who are capable of running these dungeons.
  

Going off of assumptions about time investment, it would take players 16 runs over the course of about 8 hours to farm up 16 PoM's which could easily be done in 1/16 the time if the HoS/ZS/DL idea were done instead. What sounds better? An event that's restricted to the endgamers who will need to invest an insane amount of time to make any headroom, or an event that can be done by everyone in about ~30min per day?


With all that being said, I would like to see this event shipped back to GF/RW with this thread as the receipt.


TL;DR: The event is garbage and there were better alternatives that would have made the event easy, but not as exploitable like last time.

Quoted from "Rukifellth2792"

With all that being said, I would like to see this event shipped back to GF/RW with this thread as the receipt.

TL;DR: The event is garbage and there were better alternatives that would have made the event easy, but not as exploitable like last time.

Already done.

Any teamler of any RoM community could have said this would be a terrible way to structure an event. Too bad the idea was published before being bounced off us.

Quoted from "jagodragon"

we never saw response times like that.

You did, but since a timeline isn't usually polished up and posted like that it was never clear.

Quoted from "Heron"

Quoted from "Rukifellth2792"

With all that being said, I would like to see this event shipped back to GF/RW with this thread as the receipt.

TL;DR: The event is garbage and there were better alternatives that would have made the event easy, but not as exploitable like last time.

Already done.

Any teamler of any RoM community could have said this would be a terrible way to structure an event. Too bad the idea was published before being bounced off us.

Quoted from "jagodragon"

we never saw response times like that.

You did, but since a timeline isn't usually polished up and posted like that it was never clear.

Who makes these events? I thought a CoMa and GM's together decide on events?

But yeah, this event kinda... benefits nobody. Even if you can farm HM, you'll barely get any proofs since there's 12 people, and the event says only "some" bosses will drop it.

Lmao I do not know why yall are surprised stop complaining just accept it change won't come it will not. Once you accept that all will be good.
Also tbh if you can't you guys are expecting too much of GF should of knew they would of did something like this I hope yall enjoy this amazing pom event great job GF only the strong will survive survival of the fittest I guess.

Hi all,

I just wanted to inform you that your comments are taken into consideration and i am now working on a solution to improve our current event settings.

I will not promise for anything since this event was not set by me but i will do my best.

Thanks,

I am very glad to hear that we have some empathy from the higher ups.
This was supposed to be a Christmas event for the servers and it leaves out the majority.
A select few will still be able to farm the PoMs easily by just doing the first boss in Bone Peak.
I am an endgame player, even I see the lack of community this will foster.
I imagine the damage is done in that this event is running and any changes made will be too late for the rest of the community.
The PoMs will be in the pockets of those who can already do the world bosses to get PoMs instead of the hands of those who are trying to become end game. After this, I really don't feel I can recommend this game to others.

The event hasn't even been running a full day and you think it's too late to recover? I understand and agree with the overall anger, but the stated run time is two weeks, and maybe some change could be made. Maybe. I'm feeling hopeful again.

Quoted from "Polog"

Hi all,

I just wanted to inform you that your comments are taken into consideration and i am now working on a solution to improve our current event settings.

I will not promise for anything since this event was not set by me but i will do my best.

Thanks,

you give us hope! thank you!!

Quoted from "SHAYdynasty"

Quoted from "Heron"

The event hasn't even been running a full day and you think it's too late to recover? I understand and agree with the overall anger, but the stated run time is two weeks, and maybe some change could be made. Maybe. I'm feeling hopeful again.

If it's not actually too late, maybe include easy mode.

this was my point and my hope when I first posted, easy mode Might be in my guilds ability

The fact that the event was planned this way in the first place is the problem. Why they have people who have no knowledge of the game making bad decisions about what is going to happen in the game is exactly why the game is dying.

Just tried Bone Peak HM, first boss dropped a grand total of... no PoMs.

Either BPH B1 in HM doesnt drop any, or each boss just has a chance to drop PoMs.

welp pretty much as the event didn't exist, a) 90% of the server can't even do it if not more b) the rewards for those who can do it are so low that it's not even worth the effort.

could fix by making ez give 1 pom, norm 5 pom, hm 10 pom
not really a pom event, but i think ppl wouldn't mind if you just made all instances drop 2 as many items. for instance killing a hm boss would give 4 pieces of purple loot and 2x the mems.

I honestly never said it is too late to recover from something like this. What I am saying is it feels very much like the high levels and end game players are being put above the rest.
I spent MORE diamonds as a new player then I do now.
I felt having Bone Peak Easy put on the block is considerate of those who suggested it but that means players under level 95 or so still will not be able to benefit.
It's a Christmas event ...a community event. The community isn't just high level nor is it all end game geared. The level 95 player who doesn't have a lot of cash to spend perhaps could have geared up with this event.
I understand the frustration of everyone in the people making, leveling toons to take advantage of the other PoM events. I wasn't impressed with it myself. At least those instances were limited by being able to do only once per day.
I am not sure what the answer is, but inclusion in the community as a new player is important if you want them to continue to play. The population on the servers is not high enough to put others off.

Quoted from "carpediem62"

I honestly never said it is too late to recover from something like this. What I am saying is it feels very much like the high levels and end game players are being put above the rest.
I spent MORE diamonds as a new player then I do now.
I felt having Bone Peak Easy put on the block is considerate of those who suggested it but that means players under level 95 or so still will not be able to benefit.
It's a Christmas event ...a community event. The community isn't just high level nor is it all end game geared. The level 95 player who doesn't have a lot of cash to spend perhaps could have geared up with this event.
I understand the frustration of everyone in the people making, leveling toons to take advantage of the other PoM events. I wasn't impressed with it myself. At least those instances were limited by being able to do only once per day.
I am not sure what the answer is, but inclusion in the community as a new player is important if you want them to continue to play. The population on the servers is not high enough to put others off.

Hardmode gives you a grand total of 1 proof for you to somehow share between 12 people.
Nobody is getting anything this event lol.

As someone seriously considering coming back to the game full time, this makes me reconsider where to spend my gaming dollars. Why would I want to comeback to a game that alienates it's player base. This is almost the exact opposite of what people want and one of the main reason I stopped spending my money on this game.

Quoted from "carpediem62"

this event is running and any changes made will be too late for the rest of the community.

Quoted from "carpediem62"

I honestly never said it is too late to recover

Sorry bub, but that's exactly what you seem to have said. And, I disagree: If we could get some meaningful improvements soon, then the broader community could still have plenty of time to make use of the event. I'm hopeful, but of course there's no guarantee.

So, instead of repeating what everyone agrees on, that this event is horrifically exclusive and poorly thought out and not structured for the community we HAVE rather than the one we'd like to have....

Maybe we could get some listing of instances your guilds are able to run. What is actually possible with the gear and members you collectively have?

To improve this event and make it more accessible to others I would recommend the following:

1. Include easy mode for the 3 instances
2. 100% droprate of POMs for bosses
3. Tier the number of POMs per boss based on instance and mode (i.e. harder modes and instances drop more POMs)

Quoted from "Heron"

Maybe we could get some listing of instances your guilds are able to run. What is actually possible with the gear and members you collectively have?

See my previous post for HoS/ZS/DL as they are both easily accessible/clearable while at the same time not as exploitable due to their once per day entry. 16PoM's per day is better than 8 hours of farming BP.....

The bosses should drop a minimum of 6 poms in normal mode per boss and 12 poms in hard mode per boss. Or code it to be like mems and give everyone a flat 1-2 poms per boss that are there to kill it.